AB I just typed in the search line, Jamaica early 19th century, and got quite a few hits. I hope one of them can help you. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com To: TheShipsList-D@rootsweb.com Subject: TheShipsList-D Digest V06 #268 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:06:02 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain TheShipsList-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 268 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [TSL] Elvira Owen, 1853 (was Q [af877@freenet.carleton.ca (Harry D] #2 The Chesterfield ["alison botterill" <alisonbotteril] Administrivia: TheShipsList Digest is distributed by RootsWeb. RootsWeb's home page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/ To UNSUBSCRIBE from TheShipsList Digest, click on the following link. mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Leave Subject Line BLANK and type ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of message. Do NOT include your name, address or any other text in the message. To POST a Message to the members of the list, which will be included in TheShipsList Digest, click on this link: mailto:TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com To REPLY to a Message in THIS Digest: When you hit "Reply To" in your email program, remember to 'edit' the rest of the messages. Change the subject line to reflect the topic. "TheShipsList-D Digest V06 #**" is meaningless. Remember, your subject line is your "head-line." If in doubt, it is better to copy/paste the message you are responding to, into a new email message. Search our Archives to see if your Ship has been discussed before you joined. TheShipsList RootsWeb Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ TheShipsList fully Searchable Archives http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ To contact listowners click on link below: mailto:TheShipsList-admin@rootsweb.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:12:27 -0400 (EDT) From: af877@freenet.carleton.ca (Harry Dodsworth) To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <20060826151227.5EB9A24747@smeagol.ncf.ca> Subject: Re: [TSL] Elvira Owen, 1853 (was Question) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "Mary Draper" <foxcountry@frontiernet.net> posted: >> My great grandfather, Johan Schulz supposedly left Le Havre, France on September 12, 1853 and a friend and future relative Michael Sorg was also on board the ship. I think the ship name was Elvera Owen. Can anyone help me with information? >> The Elvira Owen [sp] -arrived- at New York on September 12. According to Germans to America (book), Michael Sorg was indeed on the ship. However Johan Schulz is not listed. There were three Johan Schulz in that volume of GTA. Two were with families and sailed from Hamburg. The third was aged 23, travelling alone and travelled on the Judah Touro from Havre, arriving New York on August 23. Arrival report, New York Times, September 13, 1853 Arrived New York, September 12 Ship Elvira Owen, of Bath, [captain] Owen, Havre, Aug. 12, mdse. and 329 pass. to [agent] W. Whittock Jr. The Elvira Owen was 900 tons, built Bath (Maine) 1852 and owned there. Arrival report, New York Times, Monday, August 22, 1853 Arrived New York, Saturday, August 20 Ship Judah, Toreso? (of New Orleans) [captain] Lewis 43 ds., Havre, mdse. and 214 pass. to master [as agent]. I believe Judah Touro is the correct spelling; Judah Touro was a famous Jewish entrepreneur with ties to New Orleans. The 1857 New York Marine Register lists the ship as the Judah Truro. The ship was 716 tons, built Portsmouth (New Hampshire) in 1844 and owned in New Orleans. By the way, Question is not a good choice for a subject line :-) -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca - -------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:56:09 +0100 From: "alison botterill" <alisonbotterill@hotmail.com> To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY106-F37917C70C10C0A68DED66AA3A0@phx.gbl> Subject: The Chesterfield Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I would be interested to find out about a ship called The Chesterfield (a packet boat?) which arrived in Kingston, Jamaica probably in October 1804 (or possibly 1802). My enquiry is in relation to a letter sent from Jamaica which refers to this particular ship and the "tidings of a poor friend's death". There is also mention of a deposition made by a Mr Willis. The names of Wolf (possibly a firm), Griffiths, Drew, Bruce and "poor Mr Walsham" are also mentioned in the letter. A second letter, dated 1806, to a Mr Devis, includes mention of the names Larkins, Creed(?), Temperson (?), Willis, and Griffiths (again). From what I have been able to decipher, dramatic events are described, and I would like to be able to find out more of what was happening in Jamaica during the very early part of the 19th century. With thanks for any help. AB