Hi Jan At 04:25 PM 2006-08-25 -0400, Jan Griffiths wrote: >I noticed an earlier posting asking about this ship. Does anyone know if it >may have included passengers from London, England, who may have boarded in >Liverpool? Did it dock at any ports prior to arriving in Boston - ie, >Halifax or Quebec/Montreal? > >I'm looking for John Griffiths & Janet Rebecca Griffiths (nee Dott), who >arrived in Montreal between 1912 and 1915, both born in London, England. I'm >having great difficulty because I have no date and don't know either port of >departure or port of entry. > >Jan. I just realised we don't have the description and voyage history of the first Franconia (ahem . . Ted <grin>) however it was a short life. The ship didn't sail from London, but it was a fairly quick train trip to Liverpool. I checked my database and was surprised to see that she never sailed to a Canadian port with passengers. She made 15 trips to New York carrying Canada destined passengers between 1911-1915 . . six of those from the Mediterranean during 1912-1914, the others from Liverpool. In 1911-1914 she also made about 35 stops at Boston (and/or Portland ME) carrying Canada Destined passengers, all from Liverpool. The New York arrivals I checked on Ellis Island, but there are just two in 1911 an Albert and a Gomer. I then checked Boston on Ancestry and although there were quite a few Griffith(s) none fit the John and Janet on that ship. For Portland there was just a little four year old boy, mistranscribed as 22 years old going to his father Frederick W. Griffiths in Toronto. He was travelling with a Francis [sic] Ellen Hughes, 33 who must either be his mother or his aunt as they both left a Mrs. Hughes, mother to Frances and grandmother to Ralph. Name: Ralph Wm Victor Griffiths Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1913 Age: 22 years <<---------- wrong, 4 yrs old Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Gender: Male Ethnic Background: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Franconia Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine Friend's Name: Frederick W Griffiths Last Residence: England Microfilm Roll Number: 24 Are you positive about the ship they sailed on? As you are probably aware, Canadian passenger records for this period are unindexed, as are the US-CAN border records !! It makes this a difficult period for research when you have such a broad time frame to work with. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/