Hi, After further thought, maybe this message should have gone to the ships list, sorry if I upset anyone. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Given To: Mariners-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Information or possible look up please - Hi all, Frank in NZ, for whom I was chasing the ROSE M and its final voyage, sent me information from the "Australasian Shipping News" dated December 13, 1890 saying that the ROSE M left Sydney, NSW for Kaipara NZ.