I'd written out her history though Sue Regards Don www.shiphistory.co.uk THE FRANCONIA Cunard Line, 18150 tons gross, 182.96m long x 21.73m beam, (600.3ft x 71.3ft) 2 funnels, two masts, twin propellers, quadruple expansion engines giving a speed of 17 knots. There was accommodation for 300 1st class, 350 2nd class and 2200 3rd class passengers. Built by Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson of Wallsend on Tyne, Newcastle, England with engines provided by Wallsend Slipway Co Ltd. 23 Jul 1910 launched 25 Feb 1911 maiden voyage Liverpool - Queenstown - New York, one return voyage 18 Apr 1911 first voyage Liverpool - Queenstown - Boston 15 Sep 1914 last voyage on this route 21 Oct 1914 resumed Liverpool - New York service 23 Jan 1915 last voyage on this route after 4 return voyages 1915 troopship 4 Oct 1916 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine UB 47, 195 miles E by S of Malta. 12 dead. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] The Franconia > Hi Jan > > At 04:25 PM 2006-08-25 -0400, Jan Griffiths wrote: >>I noticed an earlier posting asking about this ship. Does anyone know if >>it >>may have included passengers from London, England, who may have boarded in >>Liverpool? Did it dock at any ports prior to arriving in Boston - ie, >>Halifax or Quebec/Montreal? >> >>I'm looking for John Griffiths & Janet Rebecca Griffiths (nee Dott), who >>arrived in Montreal between 1912 and 1915, both born in London, England. >>I'm >>having great difficulty because I have no date and don't know either port >>of >>departure or port of entry. >> >>Jan. > > I just realised we don't have the description and voyage history of the > first Franconia (ahem . . Ted <grin>) however it was a short life. The > ship didn't sail from London, but it was a fairly quick train trip to > Liverpool. > > I checked my database and was surprised to see that she never sailed to a > Canadian port with passengers. She made 15 trips to New York carrying > Canada destined passengers between 1911-1915 . . six of those from the > Mediterranean during 1912-1914, the others from Liverpool. In 1911-1914 > she also made about 35 stops at Boston (and/or Portland ME) carrying > Canada Destined passengers, all from Liverpool. > > The New York arrivals I checked on Ellis Island, but there are just two in > 1911 an Albert and a Gomer. I then checked Boston on Ancestry and > although there were quite a few Griffith(s) none fit the John and Janet on > that ship. For Portland there was just a little four year old boy, > mistranscribed as 22 years old going to his father Frederick W. Griffiths > in Toronto. He was travelling with a Francis [sic] Ellen Hughes, 33 who > must either be his mother or his aunt as they both left a Mrs. Hughes, > mother to Frances and grandmother to Ralph. > > Name: Ralph Wm Victor Griffiths > Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1913 > Age: 22 years <<---------- wrong, 4 yrs old > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 > Gender: Male > Ethnic Background: English > Port of Departure: Liverpool, England > Ship Name: Franconia > Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine > Friend's Name: Frederick W Griffiths > Last Residence: England > Microfilm Roll Number: 24 > > Are you positive about the ship they sailed on? As you are probably > aware, Canadian passenger records for this period are unindexed, as are > the US-CAN border records !! It makes this a difficult period for > research when you have such a broad time frame to work with. > > Sue > -- > > > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:TheShipsList-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > Leave Subject Line empty * Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in body of message > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >