Hi Bill, It helps if you "quote" what I'd written, to jog my memory :-} At 05:59 PM 2006-07-31 -0700, bill treumann wrote: >Hi Sue Swiggum - Thanks so much for your info about >two men named Hans Olsen. In 1868 my Hans Olsen >probably went from port of entry Milwaukee to Eau >Claire County rather than Prairie du Chien or Winona, >both further west, but a few years later he and >relatives became farmers in Polk County, Wisconsin, >closer to Prairie du Chiene and Winona. Still later >they moved to Dakota Territory but I don't think they >ever had any connection with intervening locations. I had said this below, in part, in response to you looking for a "Hans Olsen" in June 1868 departing Norway on the feeder-ship ARGO and arriving via the port of Milwaukee. _______________ The Norwegian Digitalarkivet records for 1868 aren't complete, but I found these two Hans Olsen registered to leave Christiania on the ARGO . . . . which one is him? The one from Jevnager travelling to Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin? If so, was he travelling with a brother ? 1868 Juni 04 Hans Olsen Flatla m 1850 Jevnager Prairie La Chion Norge Argo 1868 Juni 04 Birger Olsen Flatla m 1836 Jevnager Prairie La Chion Norge Argo 1868 Juni 11 Hans Olsen Holen m 1844 Vaage Wenona Norge Argo (this one will be Winona, Minnesota) _______________ I had been hoping that you knew his approximate age, or where in Norway he was from, to help learn whether either of those were possible. Have you searched the Digitalarkivet yourself? It is an amazing collection of online databases, and not really daunting, after a little experimenting http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebMeta.exe?spraak=e start with "Source category" and make a selection which will take you to another screen . . .then work on "Sub-category" to narrow your search to what you are looking for. Hint . . when beginning a new search, back right out to begin again > After consulting with a cousin who has more >fundamental info, our grandmother [born 14 January >1849, probably near Christiana, Norway] gave her name >as Caroline Christopherson when in 1871 in Eau Claire >County, Wisconsin she married Otto Hansen [Otto was a >son of Hans Olson. Otto was born near Enebak, >Ennebak, Enebakk 17 May 1847]. However, Caroline >sometimes replaced C and/or Ch with K, and ph with ff. > Caroline Christofferson gave her port of entry as >Milwaukee, 1870. She almost certainly had been >accompanied by one or more adult males, possibly her >future husband, Otto Hanson, later known as Otto >Borgen. Caroline probably lived near Enebak before >emigrating but no one seems to have been able to find >anything about her, her parents, or siblings. > Any possible help would be greatly appreciated. > William Treumann, Fargo, North Dakota USA How do you like this one ?? 1870 Sept. 09 Karoline Kristoffersen f u 20 Haugestua, ø. Aker Milwauke 4246 Norsk Bet. I Amerika HERO I think that should be Haugenstua in east Aker, like Enebakk. There is no-one listed around her from/to the same place, so it looks like she is travelling alone. Here are some "confirmed connections" for Norwegians on that September 9th 1870 sailing of the Wilson Line feeder-ship HERO http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=309 Seeing it was 1870, I would be tempted to leap to an assumption that she arrived via Quebec, probably Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4526 PERUVIAN Liverpool, England 1870-09-15 / Londonderry, Ireland 1870-09-16 Quebec, Que. 1870-09-26 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 110; Captain William H. Smith Don't be surprised about her travelling alone. In 1870 a twenty year old woman was quite mature and able to fend for herself. The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889445 ~ 1870 ~ port of Quebec You said you didn't know anything about her. If that is her, from east Aker, then how about this 1865 census entry. (1865 census is age next birthday) 1865-telling for 0218 Østre Aker District no. Page School distr. Local parish Parish Farm Title 35 1 17 Deleneng Østre Aker Østre Aker Vestre Sindsen 2 Pers.no. Household Given name Last name Family pos. Occupation Marital status Age Sex Birth place Remarks (person) 495 5 1 Maren S. Kristoffers. Husm. driver Smedværksted, Selvejer e 49 k Ørskaug 496 6 Karoline M. Kristoffers. hendes Datter hjælper Moderen ug 17 k Aker 497 7 Karl Kristoffers. hendes Søn ug 13 m Aker 498 8 Ragna M Hansd. Plejedatter ug 3 k Xania Ikke bortsat paa Fattigvæsenets Regning (it says something like . . .not an orphan from poor relief account [?] ) There were more people living on the farm "West Sindsen" but this seems to be the family grouping. Her mother is the widowed "Head" and Karoline has a brother Karl, and a "foster sister" Ragna. Does that sound right? Look at what else I found. This certainly looks like your Otto, on the ARGO, but sailing via New York. Otto also apprears to have been sailing alone. 1869 Nov. 05 Otto Hansen Borgen m u Snedker 22 Enebak New York 15085 Norsk Spd. 33,9 Argo I can't help with his ship, but try Steve Morse's one-step pages to see which ships from Liverpool were arriving at New York about two weeks +/- after November 5th 1869. Be aware while searching those records during this period, from Liverpool they often listed Scandinavians as "German." Probably Otto's 1865 census entry on farm Engen. He was from a big family :-} 1865-telling for 0229 Enebak District no. Page School distr. Local parish Parish Farm Landed property no. Title 4 1 13 Stranden Enebak Enebak Engen 1 1 Pers.no. Household Given name Last name Family pos. Occupation Marital status Age Sex Birth place Horses Cattle Sheep Pig Barley Oat Potatoes 16 16 1 Hans Ols. Husfader Gaardbruger Selveier g 46 m Enebak 1 6 4 1 1 1/2 8 4 17 17 Anne Marie Pedersd. hans Kone g 43 k Fedth 18 18 Otto Hans. deres Søn hjælper Faderen med Gaardsbruget ug 19 m Enebak 19 19 Marthe Marie Hansd. deres Datter ug 17 k Enebak 20 20 Peder Bernhart Hans. deres Søn ug 14 m Enebak 21 21 August Hans. deres Søn ug 11 m Enebak 22 22 Frederik Hans. deres Søn ug 7 m Enebak 23 23 Anne Helene Hansd. deres Datter ug 4 k Enebak 24 24 Emma Karoline Hansd. deres Datter ug 1 k Enebak Have fun with this, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/