"Mary Draper" <foxcountry@frontiernet.net> posted: >> My great grandfather, Johan Schulz supposedly left Le Havre, France on September 12, 1853 and a friend and future relative Michael Sorg was also on board the ship. I think the ship name was Elvera Owen. Can anyone help me with information? >> The Elvira Owen [sp] -arrived- at New York on September 12. According to Germans to America (book), Michael Sorg was indeed on the ship. However Johan Schulz is not listed. There were three Johan Schulz in that volume of GTA. Two were with families and sailed from Hamburg. The third was aged 23, travelling alone and travelled on the Judah Touro from Havre, arriving New York on August 23. Arrival report, New York Times, September 13, 1853 Arrived New York, September 12 Ship Elvira Owen, of Bath, [captain] Owen, Havre, Aug. 12, mdse. and 329 pass. to [agent] W. Whittock Jr. The Elvira Owen was 900 tons, built Bath (Maine) 1852 and owned there. Arrival report, New York Times, Monday, August 22, 1853 Arrived New York, Saturday, August 20 Ship Judah, Toreso? (of New Orleans) [captain] Lewis 43 ds., Havre, mdse. and 214 pass. to master [as agent]. I believe Judah Touro is the correct spelling; Judah Touro was a famous Jewish entrepreneur with ties to New Orleans. The 1857 New York Marine Register lists the ship as the Judah Truro. The ship was 716 tons, built Portsmouth (New Hampshire) in 1844 and owned in New Orleans. By the way, Question is not a good choice for a subject line :-) -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------