In a message dated 6/21/2006 6:47:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, cntycop@yahoo.com writes: Christian HOLTZ came to the US, landing in NYC on January 9, 1854 having left Hamburg, Germany on November 4, 1853. The obit reads, "Christian Holtz was born April 14, 1823 in Hamburg, Germany. He left Hamburg, November 4, 1853, and came to America, landing in New York City Jan. 9, 1854. He came to Wood Do you have this? Which more or less confirms his emigration date. Never mind, his daughter from the 1860 was born before 1850 in VIRGINIA So while I can't find them in 1850 they could have rolled in the day after and had the child. Eliz Christian Holtz Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Age in 1870: 48 Birthplace: Mecklenburg Home in 1870: Tygart, Wood, West Virginia Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Parkersburg Image Source: Year: 1870; Census Place: Tygart, Wood, West Virginia; Roll: M593_1702; Page: 503; Image: 401. Christian Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1822 Mecklenburg White Male Emma Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1860 Virginia White Female Henry Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1854 Virginia White Male Joanna Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1817 Mecklenburg White Female Mary Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1858 Virginia White Female Mina Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1856 Virginia White Female William Holtz Tygart, Wood, WV abt 1862 Virginia White Male Finally found him as John in Wood Co VA John Holtz Age in 1860: 36 Birth Year: abt 1824 Birthplace: Germany Home in 1860: Not Stated, Wood, Virginia Gender: Male Post Office: Lubeck Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age John Holtz 36 Hannah Holtz 40 Frederick Holtz 12 Sophia Holtz 11 Wilhelmena Holtz 4 Henry Holtz 3 Mary Holtz 2 Frederick Holtz Age in 1860: 12 Birth Year: abt 1848 Birthplace: Germany Home in 1860: Not Stated, Wood, Virginia Gender: Male Post Office: Lubeck Image Source: Year: 1860; Census Place: Not Stated, Wood, Virginia; Roll: M653_1384; Page: 464; Image: 467. Sophia Holtz Age in 1860: 11 Birth Year: abt 1849 Birthplace: Virginia Home in 1860: Not Stated, Wood, Virginia Gender: Female Post Office: Lubeck Christains Holtz (or Holly) Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Birthplace: MCKLIN B Occupation: Farmer Relationship to head-of-household: Self Home in 1880: Tygart, Wood, West Virginia Marital status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Spouse's name: Hannah Holtz Father's birthplace: GER Mother's birthplace: GER Image Source: Year: 1880; Census Place: Tygart, Wood, West Virginia; Roll: T9_1416; Family History Film: 1255416; Page: 474.3000; Enumeration District: 171; Image: . Joseph Holtz Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Birthplace: MICHLINBERG Occupation: Farmer Relationship to head-of-household: Self Home in 1880: Parkersburg, Wood, West Virginia Marital status: Widower Race: White Gender: Male Father's birthplace: MICHLINBERG Mother's birthplace: MICHLIN Joseph Holtz Parkersburg, Wood, WV abt 1833 MICHLINBERG Self Emma Holtz Parkersburg, Wood, WV abt 1859 Virginia Daughter Amelia Holtz Parkersburg, Wood, WV abt 1861 Virginia Daughter Frank Holtz Parkersburg, Wood, WV abt 1863 West Virginia Son Fannie Holtz Parkersburg, Wood, WV abt 1865 West Virginia Daughter John Holtz Parkersburg, Wood, WV abt 1868 West Virginia Son From 1870 Joseph Holtz Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Age in 1870: 38 Birthplace: Mecklenburg Home in 1870: Lubeck, Wood, West Virginia Family and neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Lubeck Caroline Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1839 Mecklenburg White Female Emma Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1860 Virginia White Female Fannie Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1865 West Virginia White Female Frank Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1863 West Virginia White Male John Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1867 West Virginia White Male Lucy Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1870 West Virginia White Female Permelia Holtz Lubeck, Wood, WV abt 1862 Virginia White Female Image Source: Year: 1870; Census Place: Lubeck, Wood, West Virginia; Roll: M593_1702; Page: 342; Image: 77. Christeen Holtz his daughter Emma Miles is living with him There are Nicelys all round and his son William (from the 1870) so it looks as tho he is in the same place Home in 1900: Tygart, Wood, West Virginia Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Birthplace: Germany Race: White Relationship to head-of-house: Head Occupation: View Image Immigration year: 1854 Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Tygart, Wood, West Virginia; Roll: T623 1776; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 144.