An obituary I located for my 2nd great granduncle states Christian HOLTZ came to the US, landing in NYC on January 9, 1854 having left Hamburg, Germany on November 4, 1853. The obit reads, "Christian Holtz was born April 14, 1823 in Hamburg, Germany. He left Hamburg, November 4, 1853, and came to America, landing in New York City Jan. 9, 1854. He came to Wood County shortly after that time and resided here until his death. His wife, Hannah Holtz, died Aug. 2, 1897. The deceased is survived by two brothers, Joseph Holtz of Red Cloud, Nebraska and John Holtz of New England, this county." German parish records I have obtained show Christoph Gottlieb Johann HOLST having been born on that date in Warnkenhagen, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany. Other records I have show that Christoph took the name "Christian" after coming to the United States. Christian was married at the time he came to the US, having married Hannah/Johanna Stetro (dob June 19, 1819 dod Aug 2, 1897). I would be grateful for help in finding the ship that Christian/Christoph came to the states on. Thanks, Tina Holtz Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Tina The NYTimes of Jan 9, 1954 lists the arrival on Sunday, Jan 8 of: "Ship Elbe, (Hamb.) fm Hamburg, iron to N.R. & H. Weed. Dec. 27, lat. 40. long. 67, passed a number of planks, and some hogsheads painted red. Has experienced heavy westerly gales." but it does not mention passengers. There is also a ship from Bremen: "Bark Alfred, (Brem) Pundt, Bremen 77 ds., and Ramsgate, England, 47 ds., in ballast and 179 passengers to Meyer & Stucken. Experienced heavy W. gales; split sails, stove bulwarks, and received other damage." I also checked the Jan 10 paper in case they came in after the paper was published and came up with this one. "Ship Herschel, (Hamb) Meyer, Hamburg 51 ds., mdse and 264 passengers to Schmidt & Balchen. Jan. 3, lat. 29 30, lon. 67 40 schr. ____, of Philadelphia, with both masts gone, had jurymasts rigged, and was lumber loaded. The H has experienced heavy weather; lost starboard bulwarks, two jibs &c." Regards.. Marj At 03:05 PM 6/24/2006, Tina Holtz wrote: >An obituary I located for my 2nd great granduncle states Christian HOLTZ >came to the US, landing in NYC on January 9, 1854 having left Hamburg, >Germany on November 4, 1853. The obit reads, "Christian Holtz was born >April 14, 1823 in Hamburg, Germany. He left Hamburg, November 4, 1853, >and came to America, landing in New York City Jan. 9, 1854. He came to >Wood County shortly after that time and resided here until his death. His >wife, Hannah Holtz, died Aug. 2, 1897. The deceased is survived by two >brothers, Joseph Holtz of Red Cloud, Nebraska and John Holtz of New >England, this county." > > German parish records I have obtained show Christoph Gottlieb Johann > HOLST having been born on that date in Warnkenhagen, > Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany. Other records I have show that Christoph > took the name "Christian" after coming to the United States. Christian > was married at the time he came to the US, having married Hannah/Johanna > Stetro (dob June 19, 1819 dod Aug 2, 1897). > > I would be grateful for help in finding the ship that > Christian/Christoph came to the states on. > > Thanks, > Tina Holtz > > >Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments >that take our breath away. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database >http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date >TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Tina, This is what comes up using the www.stevemorse.org boat search. Series-M237 Roll-135 Nbr Year Month Day Frame Ship Port FHL roll 20 1854 January 9 350 Elbe Hamburg, Germany 0175491 21 1854 January 9 356 Empire City Havana, Cuba 0175491 22 1854 January 9 358 Shelton Antwerp, Belgium 0175491 23 1854 January 9 364 Shannon Liverpool, England 0175491 24 1854 January 9 372 Andrew Foster Liverpool, England 0175491 25 1854 January 9 381 Alfred Bremen, Germany 0175491 26 1854 January 9 386 Great Western Liverpool, England 0175491 27 1854 January 9 395 Anglo Saxon Liverpool, England 0175491 28 1854 January 9 407 Star Of The West San Juan del Norte, Nicaragua 0175491 29 1854 January 9 415 George Law Aspinwall, Panama 0175491 30 1854 January 9 422 Tornado Bermuda 0175491 Now, you can head over to www.castlegarden.org or keep using Steve Morse's site to find them as an actual passenger. I took the assumption that it must be the ELBE, as this is the only one from Hamburg, but I looked right through the list and nothing popped out as being them, but there is a Chris Holmes or something like that. (He is alone) Let me know if you need further help, Paulette www.saskheritage.com www.chodovepeople.com Tina Holtz wrote: >An obituary I located for my 2nd great granduncle states Christian HOLTZ came to the US, landing in NYC on January 9, 1854 having left Hamburg, Germany on November 4, 1853. The obit reads, "Christian Holtz was born April 14, 1823 in Hamburg, Germany. He left Hamburg, November 4, 1853, and came to America, landing in New York City Jan. 9, 1854. He came to Wood County shortly after that time and resided here until his death. His wife, Hannah Holtz, died Aug. 2, 1897. The deceased is survived by two brothers, Joseph Holtz of Red Cloud, Nebraska and John Holtz of New England, this county." > > German parish records I have obtained show Christoph Gottlieb Johann HOLST having been born on that date in Warnkenhagen, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany. Other records I have show that Christoph took the name "Christian" after coming to the United States. Christian was married at the time he came to the US, having married Hannah/Johanna Stetro (dob June 19, 1819 dod Aug 2, 1897). > > I would be grateful for help in finding the ship that Christian/Christoph came to the states on. > > Thanks, > Tina Holtz > > >