Hi Don and Diane, Don you forgot to mention when the Copeland ran aground. Iceland and Scotland were (still are) big trading partners, so Icelanders nearly always "ferried" to Scotland to embark on transatlantic steamers. At 06:56 PM 2006-09-26 +0100, Don Hazeldine wrote: >Diane Deagle at mapadeagle@shaw.ca asks about the family-Bergsveinn Jonsson, >wife Sesselja Jonsdottir and 4 children, Margret, Jon, Kristjan and Dadi >(their last name was Bergsveinson/Bergsveinsdottir) who emigrated from >Iceland to Winnepeg in 1888. >She confirmed that they boarded the Copeland to Scotland and I know that the >Copeland ran aground in 1888 and was lost. Therefore the event could not >have been later than that date. >Bergsveinn died in Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada Jan 14, 1891. Can anyone >identify the ship that they crossed to Canada from the UK please? > >Don >(on Diane's behalf) If Margret was born August 13 1876 and "K" was born August 13th 1884, then their 1901 census listing says they arrived in 1887 rather than 1888, however remembered emigration years are often in error on census documents. This is the houshold . . you can see what fun transcriptions can be . . the surname for Margaret and her husband and son looks more like Johnson to me. However, IF they lost a child at sea, make sure you check the first 1888 arrival .. NORWEGIAN >> Svienn Bergsvensson [sic], 3 1/2 months July 5th 1888 << Joehnson? Walter M Head M May 14 1875 25 Joehnson Margret F Wife M Apr 13 1876 24 Joehnson? Bergsveitn? M Son S Oct 13 1899 1 Sigurson Mrs. G. F Lodger W Apr 12 1867 34 Johnson Mrs. G. F Lodger S May 28 1871 29 Bergsveinsson K. M Brother S Aug 13 1884 16 Source Information: 1901 Census of Canada Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 3, Winnipeg (City/Cité), MANITOBA District Number: 12 Subdistrict Number: c-5 Archives Microfilm: T6436 From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4536 NORWEGIAN Glasgow, Scotland 1888-06-29 Quebec, Que. 1888-07-08 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Icelanders (319) List Number: 38; Captain Robert Carruthers; death at sea: [Emily?] July 7th 1888 & [?] July 6th 1888 & Svienn Bergsvensson [sic], 3 1/2 months July 5th 1888; faded manifest C-4536 HIBERNIAN Glasgow, Scotland 1888-07-14 Quebec, Que. 1888-07-28 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Icelanders (246) List Number: 48; Captain John Brown; faded manifest C-4536 CARTHAGINIAN Glasgow, Scotland 1888-09-07 Quebec, Que. 1888-09-18 / Montreal, Que. (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Icelanders to Winnipeg (90) List Number: 79; Captain Angus Macnicol C-4514 SCANDINAVIAN Glasgow, Scotland 1888-08-16 / Londonderry, Ireland 1888-08-17 / Galway, Ireland 1888-08-[n.d.] Halifax, N.S. 1888-08-29 / Philadelphia, PA (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Icelandic Passengers (some pages faded) List Number: 65; Captain John Park Just in case, in 1887 there were 9 ships arriving at Quebec with Icelanders, all from Glasgow except one, which from Liverpool with one small Icelandic group for Ottawa. The first two groups for 1887 were large, not beginning before July . . eg. C-4535 NORWEGIAN Glasgow, Scotland 1887-07-02 Quebec, Que. 1887-07-11 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Large Party of Icelanders to Winnipeg List Number: 46; Captain Robert Carruthers C-4535 BUENOS AYREAN Glasgow, Scotland 1887-07-17 Quebec, Que. 1887-07-27 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Icelanders for mostly Winnipeg (830) six child deaths, 2 births List Number: 53; Captain James Scott <snip> There is one more on reel C-4535 and the rest are on C-4536. In 1887 BUENOS AYREAN had three trips with Icelanders, the NORWEGIAN had two, SIBERIAN x1, GRECIAN x2. The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889458 - 1887 & 0889459 - 1888 ~ port of Quebec Diane I see you have a Canadian email address. Here find a list of institutions in Canada who also have copies of this microfilm. You may have one close by http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-903-e.html Good Luck Sue --