Hi Tom, At 08:03 PM 2006-09-13 -0400, Tom Devine wrote: >I am looking for the ships manifest for an arrival -into NY- of The SS >Pretoria on June 19, 1903. It had left from Bremen (I believe) and had my >5 1/2 year old grandma on board. I can not find her name in the searchable >database for the Ellis Island site and it's frustrating as I know the >exact date of arrival (from her and her older brother's naturalization papers). > >Any help would be appreciated. > >-Tom Devine Not Bremen, the Hamburg-American Line ship PRETORIA sailed from Hamburg to New York. In 1903 it arrived at New York on June 11th but in 1904, on June 17th, which is closer to your date. Series Roll Vol. Year Month Day Frame Ship Port FHL roll T715 366 640 1903 June 11 248 Pretoria Hamburg 1399051 T715 469 914 1904 June 17 604 Pretoria Hamburg 1399154 The above is from Steve Morse's one-step pages for entry into Ellis Island http://www.stevemorse.org/index.html Lots of ways to search . . either my ship name and scroll through the pages or by using the White Form and search for names "starts with" and using a time span for year of arrival (I usually try one year on either side of year you are researching). Don't forget that the actual year of emigration was the most misremembered part of the date. For those who arrived prior to September 1906, it wasn't neccessary for them to *prove* their date / ship / port of arrival in order to naturalize. Good luck, Sue --