Hi Dave, At 10:58 AM 2006-09-11 -0300, Dave A wrote: >Dear Sir, >My GG Grandfather and Grandmother left Bristol in 1848,I assume that >they boarded a ship with their Children heading to Plymouth to board >the ship Palmyra to Melbourne Australia. >Was there a ship from Bristol to Plymouth called the Betaskim?,or if >you know the name of a ship that transported them to Plymouth in 1848. >On the passengers list aboard the Palmyra to Australia,1848,it states >James and mary Ann Andrews (nee Whitcombe) >,Betaskim,Devonshire.However James Andrews was raised in Bristol and >married in Bristol.All of His children were born in Temple Bristol. >can you please help me with this research. >Kind Regards from Australia. >David Andrews. >dan83951@bigpond.net.au According to the Sydney Shipping Gazette, the barque PALMYRA, 602 tons, Captain Robertson, departed London the 4th April 1848 and Plymouth the 14th April 1848 with Mrs. Russell, Mr. Finlayson and 253 immigrants, Dr. Russell surgeon-superintendant and arrived at Port Phillip on July 19th 1848. http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html Volume 5, Number 228 (29 July, 1848) Page 181 I saw this family on the 1841 census and they are living at Temple, Gloucestershire. Ann Andrews abt 1831 Temple Gloucestershire Elizabeth Andrews abt 1830 Temple Gloucestershire Emma Andrews abt 1835 Temple Gloucestershire Hester Andrews abt 1839 Temple Gloucestershire James Andrews abt 1806 Temple Gloucestershire James Andrews abt 1833 Temple Gloucestershire Mary Andrews abt 1806 Temple Gloucestershire Mary Andrews abt 1829 Temple Gloucestershire Richard Andrews abt 1837 Temple Gloucestershire Name: James Andrews Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Civil parish: Temple Hundred: Bristol City County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Source information: HO107/375/8 Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Mary Redcliff ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Folio: 30 Page: 8 Line number: 17 GSU Number: 288784 In the Victorian Passenger index there seem to be some confusing duplicate entries (I don't know whether the "tabs" will hold together) http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24 Family Name Given Name Age Month Year Ship Book Page ANDREWS RICHARD 11 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS WILLIAM 7 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS ESTHER 9 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS ANNE 17 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 8 ANDREWS ESTHER 9 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS RICHARD 11 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS MARY 43 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS JAMES 13 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS ELIZABETH 18 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS JAMES 14 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS JAMES 41 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS ELIZABETH 18 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 8 ANDREWS WILLIAM 7 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS JAMES 40 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS EMMA 12 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS EMMA 13 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 2 ANDREWS MARY ANNE 42 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 ANDREWS ANNA 16 JUL 1848 PALMIRA 4 11 In 1848 England, I would have thought that they may have travelled by train from Bristol to Plymouth to embark. I can't explain the "Betaskim, Devonshire" notation you found on the passenger list. I'd be inclined to think it was an error . . . was it a " do " (ditto) or was it written beside their names? I googled it and came up with your family, but posted to another list by a Michael Donovan maadonovan@gmail.com http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=michaeldonovan55&id=I2031 . . this does say James was born in Devonshire, England, as was his father William, but his wife Mary Anne was born in in Stoke, Cornwall, England. According to that post, they married in Bristol and the children were born there. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/