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    1. Re: [TSL] John Graham:Scotland to Saltfleet, Ontario
    2. Sue Swiggum
    3. At 07:58 PM 2006-09-26 -0700, virginia miller wrote: >John Graham was born in Comrie,Perthshire, Scotland in 1846. He is >supposed to have come to Canada in 1872 possibly accompanied by his wife >and mother, both called Margaret Graham. Would there be passenger lists >for this period? >Regards, >Virginia Hi Virginia, I looked at the 1901 census and although it says both John and Margaret were born in Scotland, it only indicates an emigration year for John . . . 1872 . . . Isabella was born in Canada in 1875 I then checked the 1911 census and just John and Margaret in the household, however this time they both show 1872 as their emigration year, so, it looks like you have a pretty good chance that this was the correct year. If you haven't seen the 1911 yet, I'll paste the source info here Name: John Graham Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 65 Birth Date: January 1846 BirthPlace: Scotland Family Number: 93 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouses's Name: Margaret Immigration Year: 1872 Tribal: Scotch Province: Ontario District: Wentworth District Number: 135 Sub-District: Saltfleet Township, Tapleytown Village Sub-District Number: 46 Place of Habitation: Saltfleet Census Year: 1911 Page: 8 Household Members: Name Age John Graham 65 Margaret Graham 63 There are only 30 ships Glasgow - Quebec to check for 1872 . . . many more from Liverpool, but I think they probably would have sailed from Glasgow From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm ....eg. of the first 3 Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4527 ST. PATRICK Glasgow, Scotland 1872-04-16 / Dublin (Kingstown), Ireland 1872-04-18 Quebec, Que. 1872-05-08 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 2; Captain John G. Stephen C-4527 ST. ANDREW Glasgow, Scotland 1872-04-25 / Londonderry, Ireland 1872-04-26 Quebec, Que. 1872-05-11 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (U): Group of Scottish Masons & Tradesmen including 11 year old boy, James Brown List Number: 5; Captain Hugh Wylie C-4527 NORTH AMERICAN Liverpool, England 1872-04-16 / Glasgow, Scotland 1872-04-17 Quebec, Que. 1872-05-12 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 6 ; Captain James Miller; 26 day passage - encountered sheet ice off Newfoundland - had to put into Halifax for coal and provisions Ship names to check for (some made more than one trip, even as many as 4 or 5) all Allan Line, except the Vicksburg : CORINTHIAN ; GERMANY x 1 ; MANITOBAN ; NORTH AMERICAN x 1; ST. ANDREW ; ST. DAVID ; ST. PATRICK ; SWEDEN ; VICKSBURG (Dominion Line) All lists are on microfilm numbers C-4527 and C-4528 (C-4528 only begins with late October arrivals) The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889447 ~ 1872 ~ port of Quebec Virginia I see you have a Canadian email address. Here find a list of institutions in Canada who also have copies of this microfilm. You may have one close by http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-903-e.html Good Luck Sue --

    09/27/2006 09:38:50