My gggrandparents left Ireland abt. 1847 aboard the Barque BEE. He his wife Catherine and their children, Patrick, Cornelius, Jeremiah, John, Stephen and two daughters whose names are unknown. The girls reportedly died at sea but were buried some where in Quebec City. I am trying to locate info about the BEE. It seems that it made only one crossing to North America, its other voyages were to Australia. I am also looking for the ships manifest to find the girl(s) names. It would be great to find the manifest from the port of disembarkation and the port of arrival. Ralph Koehler rkoehler10@yahoo.com Regards, Ralph R.E. Koehler Livonia, MI USA

On 24 Jul 2006 at 10:53, Ralph Koehler wrote: > My gggrandparents left Ireland abt. 1847 aboard the Barque > BEE. He his wife Catherine and their children, Patrick, > Cornelius, Jeremiah, John, Stephen and two daughters whose > names are unknown. The girls reportedly died at sea but > were buried some where in Quebec City. I am trying to > locate info about the BEE. It seems that it made only one > crossing to North America, its other voyages were to > Australia. I am also looking for the ships manifest to find > the girl(s) names. It would be great to find the manifest > from the port of disembarkation and the port of arrival. > There is only one manifest, it is made at the port of departure. There are no comprehensive lists of immigrants arriving in Canada prior to 1865. Until that year, shipping companies were not required by the government to keep their passenger manifests. There are search engines to search multiple websites for ships going to Canada at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml They include most ships lists on the Internet going to Canada and the online InGeneas databases for immigration to Canada 1800s ****************************************** Library & Archives Canada Holdings There are some passenger lists archived at the NAC (National Archives of Canada) for the time period 1817- 1831. You might also find an ancestor in correspondence of the Secretary of State on immigration for 1817-1857. There are lists of immigrants, mainly Irish, and entry books re immigration, and assisted emigration to British North America. These must be ordered offline . Details are given at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml ****************************************** Immigration Projects Online There are a few surviving passenger lists which were kept by shipping agents in the originating country. The Passenger Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents gives sailings from Londonderry to Quebec and St. John New Brunswick from 1847 to 1871. These are online at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml The Hawke Papers, letterbooks of Chief Emigrant Agent Anthony B. Hawke are also available at the Archives of Ontario. They cover the years 1831 to 1892. See the searchable database at http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm ****************************************** Newspaper Arrivals TheShipsList website has Quebec ship arrivals extracted from contemporary newspapers. See http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm ****************************************** Miscellaneous Websites with Immigration Information on Ships to Canada Immigrants to Canada http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/thevoyage.html The Ships List http://www.theshipslist.com/ Ships Passenger Lists Online http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ Finding Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/canada/ Ships Passenger Lists to Canada 1400-1930 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1400-1800.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Ralph, You will find information on the famine immigrants on TSL http://www.theshipslist.com/1847/index.htm The Bee arrived on June 12, 1847 at Quebec after leaving Cork on April 17. She arrived at the Grosse Isle quarantine station 17 days before her arrival at Quebec. Of the 352 passengers, 165 died. Here are Cronins listed among the dead: Julia age 20 on the Bee died at sea June 12 (so she may have been buried in Quebec) (note: Julia is listed twice in the book so not sure if there were two women by this name and the same age.) - from "A Register of Deceased Persons at Sea and on Grosse Ile in 1847" by Parks Canada. Regards.. Marj At 01:53 PM 7/24/2006, Ralph Koehler wrote: >My gggrandparents left Ireland abt. 1847 aboard the Barque BEE. He his >wife Catherine and their children, Patrick, Cornelius, Jeremiah, John, >Stephen and two daughters whose names are unknown. The girls reportedly >died at sea but were buried some where in Quebec City. I am trying to >locate info about the BEE. It seems that it made only one crossing to >North America, its other voyages were to Australia. I am also looking for >the ships manifest to find the girl(s) names. It would be great to find >the manifest from the port of disembarkation and the port of arrival. > > Ralph Koehler > rkoehler10@yahoo.com > > > >Regards, >Ralph > >R.E. Koehler >Livonia, MI USA > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database >http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date >TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Hi Ralph, At 10:53 AM 2006-07-24 -0700, Ralph Koehler wrote: >My gggrandparents left Ireland abt. 1847 aboard the Barque BEE. He his >wife Catherine and their children, Patrick, Cornelius, Jeremiah, John, >Stephen and two daughters whose names are unknown. The girls reportedly >died at sea but were buried some where in Quebec City. I am trying to >locate info about the BEE. It seems that it made only one crossing to >North America, its other voyages were to Australia. I am also looking for >the ships manifest to find the girl(s) names. It would be great to find >the manifest from the port of disembarkation and the port of arrival. > > Ralph Koehler > rkoehler10@yahoo.com The barque BEE, 577 tons, was built at Saint John, N.B. by Robert Rankin, in 1830. It went by "certificate" to Glasgow in 1830, so that would have been the port of registry then, but in 1847 was sold to a "Ross" . . . who Ross? (I don't know). There was a ship BEE, 1352 tons, also built at St. John, N.B., but in 1853, by John Thompson, sold to London in 1856. It is this 2nd BEE which made the Australia voyages. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/