Dear Sue, You found an answer very quick, as I knew you would! Thank you for the details, I had always wondered how I can find my way in Steve Morse. I know it is like the magic source to everything, but I was baffled by the long list of items. Now I did what I should have done from the beginning, I clicked : About this Website and how to use it and I see it gives me all these wonderful roads to follow and turns to take. Quite splendid! Well, I was wondering if that young man SZER may not after all be a (TEN)SZER, most of the details correspond. But on the passenger list (with your information I could find that, yes) I see he travelled with other members of his family and the names of his mother and of his father do not seem to correspond with what I know already. Still, I asked the son who lives in America if he recognises any of the other names. Till then I haven't got the right answer and I may have to come back to you! I hope this is read also by Ted and Harry, thank you both for giving me the details of the Kaiserin Augusta Victoria. I notice that the Brits, when they took her over and re-named her, let her keep her title of Empress, even giving her another country to rule over. All the best to you, the best bunch of people I know. Jan Bousse, Oostende, Belgium ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> To: "Jan Bousse" <janbousse@skynet.be>; <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Vessel Victoria arr. NY 1921 > At 03:36 PM 2006-07-15 +0200, Jan Bousse wrote: >>Hello, >> >>In an application for naturalization the arrival was declared of Sigmund >>(perhaps Shmuel) TENCER, from Lodz, Poland, in New York on January 15, >>1920, on the vessel K.A. Victoria from Danzig. The man would have been >>born in Lodz in 1901 or 1902. I can't find the vessel nor the arrival. Can >>someone find it for me? In fact, I have some doubts about these data. It >>may well be that in fact the arrival was in Canada, around that time. I >>hope I am not asking too much. >> >>Thanks anyway. >> >>Jan Bousse, Oostende, Belgium. > > Hi Jan, > > I think it must be the Kaiserin Auguste Victoria, but in 1920 she was > sailing from Liverpool to New York under charter to Cunard. She had been > surrendered to Britain in March 1919. > > There was a January 10th 1921 New York arrival, but from Liverpool. As > we've learned from many list members, the actual year of arrival is the > most misremembered part of the date. If he only applied for > naturalization, but never actually naturalized, then that could explain > why, if they couldn't find him in January 1920 on that ship. If he did > leave from Danzig, then he could have taken a feeder-ship to England to > embark in Liverpool ? > > I had a look at Ellis Island partial ship name Kaiserin Aug and > first name begins S last name begins T arrival date range 1918-1922 > and he didn't pop out. Maybe he was using a last name beginning with "T" > or maybe it was mistranscribed as another letter. Unfortunately when I > tried to search without the first letter of a last name, the search bogged > down, but I was able to grab this one, so it does indicate there were > Polish people aboard that Jan 1921 trip from Liverpool > > First Name: Scholem > Last Name: Szer > Ethnicity: Poland, Hebrew > Last Place of Residence: Lodz, Poland > Date of Arrival: Jan 10, 1921 > Age at Arrival: 17 Gender: M Marital Status: S > Ship of Travel: Kaiserin Auguste Victoria > Port of Departure: Liverpool > Manifest Line Number: 0022 > > I use Steve Morse's one-step pages > http://www.stevemorse.org/ > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/