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    1. Re: TheShipsList SS Moravian Ireland to Boston 1881(maybe Eng to Boston?)
    2. Anyone have any information on the SS Moravian? It (I think) arrived in Boston Ma on April 13th, 1881. John F O'Donnell and his wife Bridget Doherty O'Donnell were suppose to be on this ship. They had been born in Co Cork, Ireland, John(Dec 1854) and Bridget(Feb 1861).They had been married in Carndonagh, Co Donegal in 1881. Immigrated 1881 to Boston. I wonder if they were traveling alone, if anyone with them--whom? and any information that is included with ship passenger listings. Which ship company was it owned by,? Did it sail from Ireland or England? Thank you Barbara

    07/01/2006 08:16:57
    1. Re: [TSL] Re: TheShipsList SS Moravian Ireland to Boston 1881(maybe Eng to Boston?)
    2. Olive Tree Genealogy
    3. On 1 Jul 2006 at 14:16, Nsambradley@aol.com wrote: > Anyone have any information on the SS Moravian? It (I > think) arrived in Boston Ma on April 13th, 1881. The problem with the Boston arrivals is there is an 8 1/2 year gap on M277 (which is titled Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Boston MA 1820-1891) The gap is from a April 1874 to 31 Dec 1882. That is because there are no Federal records of any kind prior to 1883 (due to fire) and State Department copies were used in their place. BUT State Departments copies and abstracts only covered up to end of March 1874. However the good news is that there ARE records for the missing years. They are not available at NARA, only at the Massachusetts State Archives I believe though that there is an index on M625 which *does* cover those "missing" years. Finding an ancestor on that index in those missing years means you have to then write to the Mass. State Archives for a copy of the passenger list page with your ancestor on it. For addresses, etc, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ and click on USA then MASSACHUSETTS arrivals. Lorine Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

    07/01/2006 08:26:44
    1. Re: [TSL] Re: TheShipsList SS Moravian Ireland to Boston 1881(maybe Eng to Boston?)
    2. Sue Swiggum
    3. At 02:16 PM 2006-07-01 -0400, Nsambradley@aol.com wrote: >Anyone have any information on the SS Moravian? It (I think) arrived in >Boston Ma on April 13th, 1881. John F O'Donnell and his wife Bridget >Doherty >O'Donnell were suppose to be on this ship. They had been born in Co Cork, >Ireland, John(Dec 1854) and Bridget(Feb 1861).They had been married in >Carndonagh, Co Donegal in 1881. Immigrated 1881 to Boston. >I wonder if they were traveling alone, if anyone with them--whom? and any >information that is included with ship passenger listings. Which >ship company >was it owned by,? Did it sail from Ireland or England? >Thank you >Barbara Hi Barbara, The MORAVIAN was an Allan Line ship. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/allan.html We have her description and voyage history here (she was wrecked in Dec. 1881) http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsM.html She mostly sailed from Liverpool & Londonderry, to Quebec (summer) and to Halifax and Portland or Boston during the *winter* months . . . that is, when there was still ice in the St. Lawrence river. Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4511 MORAVIAN Liverpool, England 1881-04-09 / Londonderry (Moville), Ireland 1881-04-10 Halifax, N.S. 1881-04-[n.d.] / Boston, MA 1881-04-[n.d.] (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) Captain Frederick Archer This is the sailing you are interested in, but as you can see, the Halifax arrival didn't show an arrival date on the manifest (Boston would be two days later), but an estimate would be about 9-10 days in passage from Liverpool to Halifax . . . April 18, Boston April 20 ? Halifax just began archiving passenger lists in 1881 and I find those reords are rather spotty, with some lists including passengers destined to US ports (Portland or Boston) and others not . . . the clue is sometimes the summary which might indicate xxxx passengers, however there are only xxx on the Halifax arrival list <sigh> Quebec arrivals for the period and later Halifax arrivals usually have the US destined passengers listed seperately on their own page(s). Your information that they "might" have arrived at Boston on or about April 13th 1881 sent me looking elsewhere http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=1125 Trond's database is drawn from contemporary telegrams back to Norway and this shows that the MORAVIAN departed Liverpool on March 31st 1881 (which would mean Liverpool April 1st 1881) with a Halifax arrival on April 10th (which would translate to Boston April 12th), the date the Canadian manifest indicated departure from Liverpool. There is a good chance that this is correct, because I'm not happy with the 1881 Halifax records. Marj or Harry . . .if you are checking Halifax newspapers some time, maybe you can check those dates ......please :-} Barbara, if you want to take a chance on the Halifax reel, here is the info...... The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889429 ~ 1881 to 1882 Halifax arrivals Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

    07/02/2006 12:47:29