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    1. Re: [TSL] Port of Milwaukee, 1868; 1870
    2. Sue Swiggum
    3. Hi William, At 09:26 PM 2006-07-23 -0700, bill treumann wrote: >My g-grandfather Hans Olsen, gave "Port of Milwaukee," >June 1868, as his port of entry. I wonder how many >ships would fit? Other information has him on the >Wilson Line ship ARGO but that likely is a >transatlantic ship. > He came from Norway. How was it possible for an >inland port to be his port of entry? Possibly >disembarking in Canada, travelling by rail to a Great >Lakes port, and then by ship to Milwaukee? > My grandmother also gave Milwaukee as her port of >entry in 1870 but no month was cited. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > William Treumann, Fargo ND USA You are 100% spot on. Hans would have arrived at the port of Quebec, then taken the train to? maybe Buffalo to change to the Michigan Central Railroad Line, or by Lake Steamer from Buffalo through Lake Erie to Lake Huron to Lake Michigan. By 1868 there were several routes and methods of travel they could take, but I think if he had entered via Port Huron for example, he would have named that port. I will re-post an information circular for 1853 <<Routes & Rates Quebec-US 1853>> which varies from 1868 information, as by then, rail was available all the way from Quebec City. Norwegians however often preferred River / Lake Steamer travel to train travel, in the early days. The Wilson Line ARGO was a "feeder-ship" and in 1868 was sailing from Christiania (Oslo) and Wilson Line ships departed that port every Friday at 5pm, to Hull, England. From Hull, by rail to Liverpool to embark on a transatlantic ship. The whole trip from Christiania to Quebec via England, would be about two weeks +/-. For a June arrival at Milwaukee, the Christiania sailing dates were . . May 22nd, June 5th . . . . The Norwegian Digitalarkivet records for 1868 aren't complete, but I found these two Hans Olsen registered to leave Christiania on the ARGO . . . . which one is him? The one from Jevnager travelling to Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin? If so, was he travelling with a brother ? 1868 Juni 04 Hans Olsen Flatla m 1850 Jevnager Prairie La Chion Norge Argo 1868 Juni 04 Birger Olsen Flatla m 1836 Jevnager Prairie La Chion Norge Argo 1868 Juni 11 Hans Olsen Holen m 1844 Vaage Wenona Norge Argo (this one will be Winona, Minnesota) If the June 4th Hans is yours, then he would have left Norway on June 5th, to Hull (about 3 days) so the most likely ship(s) of arrival at Quebec would be . . . From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4523 MORAVIAN Liverpool, England 1868-06-11 Quebec, Que. 1868-06-17 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (J): Wellington Farm School (2) List Number: 37; check all MORAVIAN 1868 arrivals C-4523 PERUVIAN Liverpool, England 1868-06-11 Quebec, Que. 1868-06-23 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (M): Soldiers (102) no list List Number: 47; Captain W. Ballantine The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889443 ~ 1868 ~ port of Quebec When you get the microfilm, you'll notice many sailing ships sailing direct from Norway interspersed among the steamship arrivals. They are filmed in order of arrival and each list has a big "grease pencil?" number written on the front of the manifest as well as alternate manifest pages. So look for the "List Numbers" included above. Post again with more details for your grandmother, such as full name, age, where she was from in Norway and where she was destined and I'll try to come up with some possibilities for her. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

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