On 2 Jul 2006 at 21:31, Bill wrote: > Hello, > > I have not been able to find any reference to or a passenger > list of the ship Ciaconda that arrived in New York on or > about December 25th, 1913 from Piraeus, Greece. I have the > following documented information to work with and am looking > for direction. > > Where did you get the ship name? And the date of departure/arrival? A check of Steve Morse's one step search engines for finding ships arriving in NY does not show any ship named Ciaconda or anything remotely similar. I suspect the ship name you have is wrong, or the port/date of arrival. Have you tried seaching by name rather than by ship? Try http://www.stevemorse.org/ and use his search engines for Ellis Island. Be creative with spelling! Since he arrived after 1906 you may want to hunt for his naturalization records. An immigrant who arrived after June 29, 1906 could not naturalize until the government located their immigration record (a passenger list). Petitions (not the Declarations) after 1906 have information that has been verified and matched to an immigration record. In fact a a certification of the immigrant's arrival record was a required part of the process The easy way to remember is to think of opposites: BEFORE 1906, the Declaration has more useful genealogical info than the Petition (usually) and AFTER 1906 it's the opposite - the Petition is more useful and accurate than the Declaration. For a Resource Guide to the records, what you can expect to find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding those important years (immigration and naturalization) at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Read the intro then choose your state of interest. Lorine http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml NARA & FHC film numbers for NY passenger lists after 1820 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny.shtml Passenger Lists to New York all years http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchnyships.shtml Search Engine for online Internet Passenger Lists to NY