Joan (JPIPICH@aol.com) asked: 1) about the arrival of the SS Holland in 1872 2) how her ancestors got to Pittsburgh. 1) Here is the arrival report (New York Times, November 18, 1872) Arrived New York November 17 Steam-ship Holland (Br.,) [captain] Bragg, London Oct. 31 and Havre Nov. 4 with mdse. and 789 steerage passengers to [agent] F. W. J. Hurst. Has had strong westerly winds the entire passage. Nov. 8, lat 50 43 lon 20 34 passed a German ship bound E., 9th lat 50 38 lon 26 16 passed a Bremen steamer bound E., 15th lat 42 33 lon 63 18 passed a Gu..n [Guion?] steamer bound E. Conditions on the Holland (a small ship by modern standards) must have been awful with 789 passengers. 2) In 1872, I would expect passengers for Pittsburgh to take the train. In earlier days, immigrants might have travelled by New Orleans and the Mississippi steamboats, or by Quebec and the Great Lakes route. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------