In a message dated 5/29/2006 8:31:15 AM Central Standard Time, otg@csolve.net writes: On 29 May 2006 at 9:23, David Schoenberger wrote: > At what point during the voyage is the list compiled ? At the port of departure But...were there two lists, a German list and an English list? Usually we find the English list which NARA or somebody has but we are now hearing about Gemini lists at Hamburg but not at Bremen since the Bremen lists were destroyed. Cliff Bischoff