Hello to all: I tried posting this message a few weeks ago but I don't think it went thru, never saw it posted; if it is a rerun, I apologize. I'm trying to understand why, on the Ellis Island site, my grandfather, Michaly Beny, arrives aboard the "Dresden" on 05/31/1892 but in the recently obtained copy of his "Alien Registration Form", it is written that he arrived on a German boat, the "Verra". I googled the Verra but couldn't get anywhere as I don't read German. He came originally from Hungary but an area that is now in Slovakia. Can anyone suggest why the discrepancy in names of ships? Is it likely he travelled on one ship before crossing the Atlantic on the Dresden, which sailed from Bremen? I know people often forgot the names of the ships they arrived on but this seems to be a rather big name difference. What route might someone from Hungary have taken to get to Bremen? I appreciate any input. Thanks, Nancy

MICHAEL CARNER wrote: > on the Ellis Island site, my > grandfather, Michaly Beny, arrives aboard the "Dresden" on 05/31/1892 > but in the recently obtained copy of his "Alien Registration Form", > it is written that he arrived on a German boat, the "Verra". > > Can anyone suggest why the discrepancy in names of ships? The Ellis Island website has the original ship manifests, i.e., the lists that were created at the time the ship crossed the ocean, and that were deposited at Ellis Island when it landed. Although some passengers from continental Europe took a boat to England and left from there, if you look at the first page of the Dresden manifest, you can see that that was not the case here. The Dresden departed from Bremen and did not stop en route, so it did not pick up passengers at any other port. Michaly Beny is listed on the Dresden manifest, so that must have been the ship he traveled on. So why does it say Verra on the alien registration form? Perhaps there was more than one Michaly Beny. Are you sure the alien registration form is for your grandfather? Perhaps the person who completed the form (not necessarily your grandfather) just got things mixed up. If you do a search for the ship Verra at Steve Morse's website: http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/boat.html you'll see that there are no results for a ship of that name. So perhaps "Verra" is the answer to some other question than what was the name of the ship he arrived on. Good luck! Kathy

Hi Nancy, Kathy correctly states that there was no ship named Verra. Suggest you have a look at Steve Morse's site for the WERRA which was also a North German Lloyd ship from Bremen at the time. There may be another Michaly Beny listed there? regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL CARNER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: [TSL] non-matching records > Hello to all: I tried posting this message a few weeks ago but I don't > think it went thru, never saw it posted; if it is a rerun, I apologize. > > I'm trying to understand why, on the Ellis Island site, my grandfather, > Michaly Beny, arrives aboard the "Dresden" on 05/31/1892 but in the > recently obtained copy of his "Alien Registration Form", it is written > that he arrived on a German boat, the "Verra". I googled the Verra but > couldn't get > anywhere as I don't read German. He came originally from Hungary but an > area that is now in Slovakia. > > Can anyone suggest why the discrepancy in names of ships? Is it likely he > travelled on one ship before crossing the Atlantic on the Dresden, which > sailed from Bremen? I know people often forgot the names of the ships they > arrived on but this seems to be a rather big name difference. What route > might someone from Hungary have taken to get to Bremen? > > I appreciate any input. > Thanks, > Nancy > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 21/08/2008 > 18:54 > > >