Thanks to list members we are making great progress in our research. We are researching my wife's HIRD family and found two seagoing brothers. Alexander Forbes HIRD and Findlay Fraser HIRD Both got there master's certificates in Dundee in 1899. Have t this only recently from the Guildhall in London. I have the Guildhall references and their certificate numbers. Can someone suggest London based researchers who visit the Guildhall and NMM Greenwich archives who would obtain copies of the Lloyds Captains Register entries and captains/masters certificates? Regards Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland