Hi Frank It might be easier to find them arriving in Australia - the passenger list will have the port of departure. Are you aware of the online indexes at http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide02 3.jsp http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp#Immigrationam pShippi although NSW this has one index for Port Phillip. Regards Lyn In Brisbane Oz. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Morgan Sent: Saturday, 8 November 2008 12:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TSL] UK Emigration departure ports to Melbourne Aust. 1850 Hello, I am seeking the likely Ports of Departure for a family who lived in Leeds, Yorkshire. Their arrival into Melbourne, Victoria, is estimated as about 1849/50. Frank, Perth Aust. ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lyn (copy Frank) I don't think those databases do indicate the name of the departure port, just B for a British port and F for a foreign port (ie. any place other than a British port). Frank, I had been thinking about your query and thought that maybe Liverpool would have been most likely from Leeds. England had pretty well established rail by that time, so that would have opened up other opportunities, so I can't be sure. You should begin with the databases Lyn mentioned to learn which year, which month of arrival and the name of the ship. There are assisted (from 1839) and unassisted (from 1852) links ... you can quickly find the direct links here ... just scroll down to Australia http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/Resource.htm#pax Armed with that information about the ship name and month / year of arrival, you can access the Sydney Shipping Gazette online ... http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html ... You will get the hang of it, but Melbourne arrival information was usually published in the SSG about 2-3 weeks later. You will almost 100% likely, learn the port of departure (as well as learning the day of arrival), usually Captain name, "cabin passengers" names and numbers of emigrants. Sometimes you'll find a chatty piece about the voyage and maybe the cargo the vessel carried ... those aren't necessarily on the same page. The images are .pdf so you'll need an Adobe Reader (free download if you don' t have it) Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 07:30 AM 2008-11-15 +1000, Lyn wrote: >Hi Frank > >It might be easier to find them arriving in Australia - the passenger list >will have the port of departure. Are you aware of the online indexes at > >http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide02 >3.jsp > >http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp#Immigrationam >pShippi although NSW this has one index for Port Phillip. > >Regards > >Lyn >In Brisbane >Oz. >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Morgan >Sent: Saturday, 8 November 2008 12:37 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [TSL] UK Emigration departure ports to Melbourne Aust. 1850 > >Hello, > >I am seeking the likely Ports of Departure for a family who lived in Leeds, >Yorkshire. > >Their arrival into Melbourne, Victoria, is estimated as about 1849/50. > >Frank, Perth Aust.

No they don't Sue but the point was if Frank worked out which ship they came on from the indexes then he would be able to check the passenger list which would. Much more definitive than guessing the most likely which still doesn't help anyway as passenger lists are much easier to find this end than the UK end. Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: Sue Swiggum [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 7:57 AM To: Lyn; [email protected] Cc: Frank Morgan Subject: Re: [TSL] UK Emigration departure ports to Melbourne Aust. 1850 Hi Lyn (copy Frank) I don't think those databases do indicate the name of the departure port, just B for a British port and F for a foreign port (ie. any place other than a British port). Frank, I had been thinking about your query and thought that maybe Liverpool would have been most likely from Leeds. England had pretty well established rail by that time, so that would have opened up other opportunities, so I can't be sure. You should begin with the databases Lyn mentioned to learn which year, which month of arrival and the name of the ship. There are assisted (from 1839) and unassisted (from 1852) links ... you can quickly find the direct links here ... just scroll down to Australia http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/Resource.htm#pax Armed with that information about the ship name and month / year of arrival, you can access the Sydney Shipping Gazette online ... http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html ... You will get the hang of it, but Melbourne arrival information was usually published in the SSG about 2-3 weeks later. You will almost 100% likely, learn the port of departure (as well as learning the day of arrival), usually Captain name, "cabin passengers" names and numbers of emigrants. Sometimes you'll find a chatty piece about the voyage and maybe the cargo the vessel carried ... those aren't necessarily on the same page. The images are .pdf so you'll need an Adobe Reader (free download if you don' t have it) Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 07:30 AM 2008-11-15 +1000, Lyn wrote: >Hi Frank > >It might be easier to find them arriving in Australia - the passenger >list will have the port of departure. Are you aware of the online >indexes at > >http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVgu >ide02 >3.jsp > >http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp#Immigrat >ionam pShippi although NSW this has one index for Port Phillip. > >Regards > >Lyn >In Brisbane >Oz. >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Morgan >Sent: Saturday, 8 November 2008 12:37 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [TSL] UK Emigration departure ports to Melbourne Aust. 1850 > >Hello, > >I am seeking the likely Ports of Departure for a family who lived in >Leeds, Yorkshire. > >Their arrival into Melbourne, Victoria, is estimated as about 1849/50. > >Frank, Perth Aust.