Darrell, The May 1844 departure mentioned in the Ad Marj found agrees with your second link below, however it sailed to Sydney without mention of Adelaide. Not unheard of that the ship might have stopped at Adelaide en route, only maybe no "assisted" passengers disembarked there. There was an 1845 London-Adelaide trip, arriving there 24th November 1845. Seeing he went to work in the Hunter Valley shortly after arrival, then a Sydney arrival makes sense. The Sydney Shipping Gazette agrees with what Marj found 1844 August 27th ._ TEMPLAR, ship, 565 tons, Captain Brown, from London the 2nd and Cork the 16th May, with 242 emigrants. Passengers:_ Deputy Commissary General Ramsay, Mrs. Ramsay, and three Miss Ramsays and servant, Mr. Fletcher, Mr. E.G. Williams, Mr. Davidson, surgeon, and Mr. Fripp. Volume 1, Number 24 (31 August, 1844) Page 161-164 http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html There is a terrific write-up about the ship and the passengers on page 163, so scroll past the arrival notice on page 162 Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 09:08 PM 2008-11-10 +0000, DARRELL wrote: >The link is the passenger list showing Presland family, ideally Im after >copies of the actual lists as ancestry only has a transcribed database. >http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&f3=&f4=PRESLAND&=&rg_fa3 >1__date=&rs_fa31__date=0&f23=&f28=&f26=&f25=&rg_f24__date=&rs_f24__date=0&f2 >7=TEMPLAR&gskw=&prox=1&db=nswassisted&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=IMAGE&gst=&so= >3 > >The following http://www.speculumgregis.com/pages40-49ann.asp page 46 gives >a little detail of the ships arrival. > >Thanks > >Darrell