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    1. Re: [TSL] From Europe to Liverpool?
    2. Sue Swiggum
    3. Hi, The ship was the Cunard Line CARONIA http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/cunard.html http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsC.html In 1910 they probably went by train to a western European port, then a quick "feeder-ship" / ferry ride to a eastern England port, then train to Liverpool. This was called transmigration. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html . . and was a pretty common practise. Feeder ships http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/feeders.html Those passenger lists do NOT survive, and I do not think you would find the UK arrival port or name of the "feeder ship" to England on the records before 1906 . . . The guide Debbie Beavis wrote for TheShipsList ... http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/ukrecords.html ... doesn't seem to mention that. She had written in later emails >> British lists give much less information than the equivalent arrival list for the United States, but for lists after 1906, can often give the elusive information of the name of the ship which brought transmigrants from the continent of Europe, into the UK. This is the only way of extracting that information as there are no arrival lists for these voyages (see below). Note that the name of the ship is sometimes given, but was not required. From 1907, the name of the steamship line bringing these transmigrants to the UK was a requirement, and this may open new avenues for tracing the name of the ship,should it not be separately recorded. << You can find British Outbound lists here, but there is a charge to access the full original record (searching the indexed names is free) http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:00 AM 2008-07-15 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >With help from kindly researchers I found my grandmother and mother on SS >Canonia (spelling?) 30 Aug 1910 arrive NY from LIverpool. >they lived in Palesnik Hungary ( now Croatia). How would they have gotten >from There to Liverpool? Ferry and from where? Trieste? >Whatever help you could give me is appreciated.

    07/15/2008 06:04:04
    1. Re: [TSL] From Europe to Liverpool?
    2. Arvid Hardin HATM
    3. The ships from Hamburg bringing Eastern European immigrants also stopped at Antwerp and Liverpool on the way out to Canada at least and probably the US as well. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sue Swiggum Sent: July 15, 2008 9:04 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [TSL] From Europe to Liverpool? Hi, The ship was the Cunard Line CARONIA http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/cunard.html http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsC.html In 1910 they probably went by train to a western European port, then a quick "feeder-ship" / ferry ride to a eastern England port, then train to Liverpool. This was called transmigration. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html . . and was a pretty common practise. Feeder ships http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/feeders.html Those passenger lists do NOT survive, and I do not think you would find the UK arrival port or name of the "feeder ship" to England on the records before 1906 . . . The guide Debbie Beavis wrote for TheShipsList ... http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/ukrecords.html ... doesn't seem to mention that. She had written in later emails >> British lists give much less information than the equivalent arrival list for the United States, but for lists after 1906, can often give the elusive information of the name of the ship which brought transmigrants from the continent of Europe, into the UK. This is the only way of extracting that information as there are no arrival lists for these voyages (see below). Note that the name of the ship is sometimes given, but was not required. From 1907, the name of the steamship line bringing these transmigrants to the UK was a requirement, and this may open new avenues for tracing the name of the ship,should it not be separately recorded. << You can find British Outbound lists here, but there is a charge to access the full original record (searching the indexed names is free) http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:00 AM 2008-07-15 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >With help from kindly researchers I found my grandmother and mother on SS >Canonia (spelling?) 30 Aug 1910 arrive NY from LIverpool. >they lived in Palesnik Hungary ( now Croatia). How would they have gotten >from There to Liverpool? Ferry and from where? Trieste? >Whatever help you could give me is appreciated. ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/15/2008 04:39:02