First a bit of background, then my "amateur question." I am far from being an amateur at genealogy research after twenty some years, but I am definitely a beginner when it comes to sorting through passenger lists looking for a specific passenger on a specific list. My quest was made more complicated by the fact my great grandmother was a Swedish immigrant, who not only had multiple spellings (right or wrong) for her name, but I had no dates, name of ship, or any other pertinent information until the last couple of weeks. Finally, by chance I connected with a most helpful gentleman in Sweden who found a myriad of documents to help me fill in some gaps. This information gave me the information for Bobbi on this list to locate the passenger list, and I once again thank her for that. Now then, keeping in mind that I am new at this, I have a general question about passenger lists. Is it common for them to carry major errors on them that, in my case, contributed to my difficulty in finding a match when I searched? Following are the documented errors on the passenger listing found on Ancestry.com: 1. Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands (it was a Dutch ship on a voyage that originated in Rotterdam, but my g-grandmother boarded and departed from Stockholm. 2. Place of Origin: Hungary -- Hungary is a landlocked country with no seaports, so this speaks for itself. 3. Nationality: Hungary - My g-grandmother was most definitely Swedish. I'm not grumbling about it (okay, maybe just a little J ), but for future reference before I do similar research into Greek records for her Greek immigrant husband, is this kind of thing to be expected? Just curious, but anyone has any thoughts to share I'd appreciate hearing them. I know 150-year-old records cannot always be expected to be 100% accurate, but this seemed to be a bit much me. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net

For some reason, David is only receiving about one out of five of my emails, so has obviously NOT yet read what I posted to him and to the list on March 22nd. I addressed the "Hungary" situation on March 22nd, as it was an obvious compiler error, so question 2.& 3. below are moot. Regarding question 1. On March 22nd I said in part ... >.... I was puzzling over the departure port, as most Swedes would emigrate >through Göteborg. She was from Rasbo, Uppsala, so it would be an easy >train trip to that port. The fewer who did depart from depart from >Stockholm did seem to have gone from there to an eastern European port to >embark on a transatlantic ship. ... To enlarge on that, because I did not mention that unless Scandinavians (for example), sailed DIRECT to North America, that they were transmigrants. Swedish transmigrants sailed INDIRECT in "feeder-ships" from ports such as Göteborg, Malmö and Stockhom, to other emigration ports to embark on the larger transatlantic ships. Those sailing from Göteborg and Malmö used mostly Wilson Line "feeder-ships" which sailed to British ports. Those sailing from Stockholm would usually sail to German or Dutch ports. Sometimes, depending upon where they lived in Sweden, those transmigrants even entered Norway and sailed in "feeder-ships" from Norwegian ports. I do not know which "feeder-ship" she might have taken from Stockholm to Rotterdam ... Finnish ? Dutch ? German ? .... maybe someone else reading this email can enlarge on that. I can only guess why she took that route, rather than through Britain ... maybe it was economic ? ... maybe political ? was her brother meant to go into Military service (he was 21), so they couldn't leave through the usual emigration port, Göteborg .... all purely conjecture on my part. This link talks about transmigration, through Britain, however it might help you understand the process. Transmigration via British ports http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html Now, a favour please from anyone reading this email, because David seems unable to receive my emails, can you please send him the Archives link and suggest that he read this response as well as the one I wrote to him on March 22nd. TheShipsList Archives Link http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date Thanks Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 01:53 PM 2010-03-26 -0400, David E. Cann wrote: >First a bit of background, then my "amateur question." I am far from being >an amateur at genealogy research after twenty some years, but I am >definitely a beginner when it comes to sorting through passenger lists >looking for a specific passenger on a specific list. My quest was made more >complicated by the fact my great grandmother was a Swedish immigrant, who >not only had multiple spellings (right or wrong) for her name, but I had no >dates, name of ship, or any other pertinent information until the last >couple of weeks. Finally, by chance I connected with a most helpful >gentleman in Sweden who found a myriad of documents to help me fill in some >gaps. This information gave me the information for Bobbi on this list to >locate the passenger list, and I once again thank her for that. > > > >Now then, keeping in mind that I am new at this, I have a general question >about passenger lists. Is it common for them to carry major errors on them >that, in my case, contributed to my difficulty in finding a match when I >searched? Following are the documented errors on the passenger listing >found on Ancestry.com: > > > >1. Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Netherlands (it was a Dutch ship on a >voyage that originated in Rotterdam, but my g-grandmother boarded and >departed from Stockholm. > > > >2. Place of Origin: Hungary -- Hungary is a landlocked country with no >seaports, so this speaks for itself. > > > >3. Nationality: Hungary - My g-grandmother was most definitely Swedish. > > > >I'm not grumbling about it (okay, maybe just a little J ), but for future >reference before I do similar research into Greek records for her Greek >immigrant husband, is this kind of thing to be expected? Just curious, but >anyone has any thoughts to share I'd appreciate hearing them. I know >150-year-old records cannot always be expected to be 100% accurate, but this >seemed to be a bit much me. > > > > > >David E. Cann > >decann@infionline.net