Kathy, I am looking at a copy of the card. On the bottom it says US Department of Justice, Immigration and Naturalization Services. Form N-35 (Old 1-IP). It has under the Date of Naturalization- Dec. 14, 1854 That’s where I got the date from. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:12 PM To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TSL] 1800's INS Form question Gary wrote: > I was asked by my aunt (marriage) what was on the back side of an > Immigration and Naturalization Service form N-35 (old 1-IP) card. On > the bottom of the front it says “Over” She never got the back side. > On the front of the card is Family name, Given name, address, > Certificate No, Title and location of Court, Country of birth, Date > of Naturalization, Name and address of witnesses > > This card is dated from 12/14/1854 I'm not sure what you have that supposedly is dated 1854 and is an Immigratiion and Naturalization Service form, but the INS didn't even exist with that name until 1933. No U.S. federal immigration service existed at all until 1891. See: http://immigration.about.com/od/usimmigrationhistory/f/INS_USCIS.htm http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/about/history/legacy/ins_history.xml You might want to take another look at the document, and let us know more about what you find. Good luck! Kathy ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gary wrote: > Kathy, > I am looking at a copy of the card. On the bottom it says > US Department of Justice, Immigration and Naturalization Services. Form > N-35 (Old 1-IP). > It has under the Date of Naturalization- Dec. 14, 1854 That’s where I got > the date from. There's an image of a From 1-IP here: <http://books.google.com/books?id=Jw3kn_AgNTkC&pg=PA408&lpg=PA408&dq=immigration+naturalization+service+form+%221-IP%22&source=bl&ots=2L1B-ts9SA&sig=iMcPIAYdia6DTNDqfASAAFD1Qwg&hl=en&ei=1qHHTNWlMoO78gbH4dke&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%221%20-IP%22&f=false> p. 408 It's not an INS document; it's an index card created by the WPA. It should show you where you can obtain the original naturalization documents. Good luck! Kathy