Hi Sue, Thank you very much for all this work you have put into my plea for help. As you say, it gets more confusing, however 1911 does pop up all the time and that was the year the Demosthenes was launched. Barbara's birthday was 15th May 1910, father Richard was born Dec Quarter 1883 and his wife Jessie was born Sept Quarter 1876. I must have missed them on the Victorian Website. A son was born either in Qld or NSW after the family arrived here, he was Jack R HUDSON. However, Jack died in Sydney in 1924, registered in Kogarah, he would have been around 10 to 13 years old at the time of his death. I have only been working on this family for my friend for the past three days and the information I am putting together, she had no knowledge of. As she has told me, she never listed to the grandparents stories as she was too young, and her mother was too young to know about life in England or anything about the voyage and the ship they arrived on. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> To: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>; <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? > Hi Janice, > > The Ancestry index says (don't know why it says Victoria) > > Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923 > about Miss B Hudson > Name: Miss B Hudson > Estimated birth year: abt 1911 > Age: 9 Months > Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1911 > Arrival Port: Brisbane, Australia > Departure Port: London > Ship: Demosthenes > Nationality: English > > This looks like the right Barbara but the age doesn't make sense because > it would take so long for a Feb 1911 London departure to arrive in > Brisbane. ..... confusing > > Findmypast has them listed twice, once for London and once for Plymouth > departure, but only Brisbane destination. (I don't have a sub so I can't > check the details) > > HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane > HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 Plymouth Australia Brisbane > HUDSON J 1876 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane > HUDSON J Unknown F 1911 Plymouth Australia > Brisbane > HUDSON R 1883 M 1911 London Australia Brisbane > HUDSON R Unknown M 1911 Plymouth Australia > Brisbane > > Barbara on FreeBMD > > Births Jun 1910 > HUDSON Barbara Irene Ormskirk 8b 906 > > Being born in the June quarter 1910 would have her sailing in Feb 1911 in > my mind, but the ship appears to have arrived at Melbourne, 9th October > 1911, then to Sydney, then on to Brisbane. 950 passengers with provisions > for a voyage taking 54 to 65 days. > > Maybe someone can find the London sailing dates in newspaper reports. I > can't comment on the the age ... which _should_ be at the date of sailing > ... has me wondering if she was 9 months old at the time of booking the > passage ... just a thought. With adults a year +/- wouldn't be too much > of a concern, but with an infant it can cause a lot of confusion. > > btw. the Demosthenes belonged to (new ship in 1911) > > Aberdeen Line / Aberdeen & Commonwealth Lines > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/aberdeen.html > > Maybe Ted can dig up her info which would include her maiden voyage which > will probably nail down the voyage ... one website says five voyages to > Australia in 1911 ... I find that hard to credit. > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > At 09:22 AM 2010-07-17 +1000, Janice Doughty wrote: >>Good morning Listers, >> >>I have a mystery I hope SKS can help me solve. >>
Hi Sue / Janice, DEMOSTHENES 11,233 tons, triple screw steamer, 517ft x 62.3ft, speed 15 knots, accommodation for 100-1st and 250-3rd class passengers. Built 1911 by Harland & Wolff, Belfast for Aberdeen Line. Maiden voyage started 31st Aug.1911 from London to Capetown, Melbourne and Sydney. 1915 converted to troop transport. 19th Aug.1920 returned to London, Capetown, Sydney and Brisbane service. 2nd Feb.1929 transferred to Liverpool,Capetown, Sydney, Brisbane route. Last sailing 6th Feb.1931 and scrapped. She would only have made the one voyage to Australia in 1911. Photos at http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20D/slides/Demosthenes-01.html Use right arrow at top for further photos. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com>; "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? > > Hi Sue, > > Thank you very much for all this work you have put into my plea for help. > As you say, it gets more confusing, however 1911 does pop up all the time > and that was the year the Demosthenes was launched. Barbara's birthday > was > 15th May 1910, father Richard was born Dec Quarter 1883 and his wife > Jessie > was born Sept Quarter 1876. I must have missed them on the Victorian > Website. > > A son was born either in Qld or NSW after the family arrived here, he was > Jack R HUDSON. However, Jack died in Sydney in 1924, registered in > Kogarah, > he would have been around 10 to 13 years old at the time of his death. I > have only been working on this family for my friend for the past three > days > and the information I am putting together, she had no knowledge of. As she > has told me, she never listed to the grandparents stories as she was too > young, and her mother was too young to know about life in England or > anything about the voyage and the ship they arrived on. > > Regards, > Janice > Belrose - Sydney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> > To: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>; > <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? > > >> Hi Janice, >> >> The Ancestry index says (don't know why it says Victoria) >> >> Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923 >> about Miss B Hudson >> Name: Miss B Hudson >> Estimated birth year: abt 1911 >> Age: 9 Months >> Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1911 >> Arrival Port: Brisbane, Australia >> Departure Port: London >> Ship: Demosthenes >> Nationality: English >> >> This looks like the right Barbara but the age doesn't make sense because >> it would take so long for a Feb 1911 London departure to arrive in >> Brisbane. ..... confusing >> >> Findmypast has them listed twice, once for London and once for Plymouth >> departure, but only Brisbane destination. (I don't have a sub so I can't >> check the details) >> >> HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane >> HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 Plymouth Australia >> Brisbane >> HUDSON J 1876 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane >> HUDSON J Unknown F 1911 Plymouth Australia >> Brisbane >> HUDSON R 1883 M 1911 London Australia Brisbane >> HUDSON R Unknown M 1911 Plymouth Australia >> Brisbane >> >> Barbara on FreeBMD >> >> Births Jun 1910 >> HUDSON Barbara Irene Ormskirk 8b 906 >> >> Being born in the June quarter 1910 would have her sailing in Feb 1911 in >> my mind, but the ship appears to have arrived at Melbourne, 9th October >> 1911, then to Sydney, then on to Brisbane. 950 passengers with >> provisions >> for a voyage taking 54 to 65 days. >> >> Maybe someone can find the London sailing dates in newspaper reports. I >> can't comment on the the age ... which _should_ be at the date of sailing >> ... has me wondering if she was 9 months old at the time of booking the >> passage ... just a thought. With adults a year +/- wouldn't be too much >> of a concern, but with an infant it can cause a lot of confusion. >> >> btw. the Demosthenes belonged to (new ship in 1911) >> >> Aberdeen Line / Aberdeen & Commonwealth Lines >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/aberdeen.html >> >> Maybe Ted can dig up her info which would include her maiden voyage which >> will probably nail down the voyage ... one website says five voyages to >> Australia in 1911 ... I find that hard to credit. >> >> Sue >> -- >> TheShipsList Website >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ >> >> At 09:22 AM 2010-07-17 +1000, Janice Doughty wrote: >>>Good morning Listers, >>> >>>I have a mystery I hope SKS can help me solve. >>> > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3008 - Release Date: 07/15/10 18:35:00