COuld this be the ship SEA BIRD which sailed from Ireland to Quebec in the 1840s? See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1820-1850.shtml Lorine On 18 Feb 2010 at 13:45, Dawn Butler wrote: > oops- forgot his name -his name is Nicholas Sheehan >   >   >   > I just found information about my gggreat grandfather from > the New York Emigrant Savings Bank.  On this it says he > arrived from Cork, Ireland in 1846 on what looks like the > "Seabird"  He was born around 1830 and had a mother- Mary > (born around 1800), father-Richard, and brother-John (born > around 1825) that he may have been travelling with.  In 1866 > he was living in New York but I do not know if the ship > arrived there.  I have looked for the ship but I cannot find > one by that name- maybe the name is a similar name that > someone will recognize??  I guess it is also possible that > the year is incorrect-on another census I have it says he > arrived in 1848.  Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks > Dawn > > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ olivetreegenealogy@rogers.com or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

I am searching for a Prussian ancestor family who immigrated (to Texas?) around 1856. They last lived at Landsberg on the Warthe (now in Poland) and the father was a ship captain on the Baltic Sea. The family consisted of the parents - Johann Michael and Henriette Moegelin (possibly Maegelin), four sons and three daughters. I cannot find them on any ships passenger lists. If the father were a member of the crew would his family still be listed as passengers? Any and all clues and suggestions are gratefully appreciated. Carroll Warschak -----Original Message----- From: theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 2:01 am Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 39 Today's Topics: 1. Still Looking for a "Death at Sea" in 1887 (from Maine) (Betty) 2. immigration tothe US (Hans Faber) 3. Seabird 1846 (Dawn Butler) 4. Seabird 1846 (Dawn Butler) 5. arivals in New England (mbrat) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:51:08 -0500 rom: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> ubject: [TSL] Still Looking for a "Death at Sea" in 1887 (from Maine) o: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <C8C992158C61445D8609981888B70275@betty94bfd0f73> ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello, Just a quick reminder that I've wondered for a long time what happened to ohn KIDDER during 1887. The "KIDDER book" only says he "loved the sea nd died at sea in 1887." He could have been anywhere in the world, artly because his son had migrated to the Hawaiian Islands. John always ived along the Maine / New Brunswick border (from an 1830's birth). * Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) .S. On the same large branch of my family-tree I have a r-gr-grandfather from the Isle of Man and Liverpool, England, who was at east a Mariner from that area. His daughter reported him on her marriage ertificate in Nova Scotia in 1879 that he was a Master Mariner, but I have ot found a basis for that. * He was the older brother of my gr-gr-grandfather, Joseph KIDDER, of rinceton, Maine, who had fought in the Civil War - in Florida - was eriously injured but returned to Maine to marry and have children. They ad a younger brother, "Cal, Jr.," who like his father was a woodsman.) ----------------------------- Message: 2 ate: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:39:00 +0100 rom: "Hans Faber" <hans.faber@planet.nl> ubject: [TSL] immigration tothe US o: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <66A3614541044848A0CAE5E421230A24@c64kahuro0l81r> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have not been able to find any immigration records for Klaasje Tijmens de oer, born Feb 9, 1834 Spanga, Weststellingwerf, Holland with her husband Jssebrand Bouwes Oosten, born Jun 10, 1829 Oldetrijne, Weststellingwerf, olland and 4 or 5 children. The little information I have is that Klaasje and IJssebrand emigrated to the US n 1877 and that IJssebrand died on the way. an anyone help , please? Thank you, ans Faber ------------------------------ Message: 3 ate: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:24:33 -0800 (PST) rom: Dawn Butler <dawncts@yahoo.com> ubject: [TSL] Seabird 1846 o: THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <109354.92646.qm@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I just found information about my gggreat grandfather from the New York Emigrant avings Bank.? On this it says he arrived from Cork, Ireland in 1846 on what ooks like the "Seabird"? He was born around 1830 and had a mother- Mary (born round 1800), father-Richard, and brother-John (born around 1825)?that he may ave been travelling with.? In 1866 he was living in New York but I do not know f the ship arrived there.? I have looked for the ship but I cannot find one by hat name- maybe the name is a similar name that someone will recognize??? I uess it is also possible that the year is incorrect-on another census I have it ays he arrived in 1848.? Any help is greatly appreciated. hanks awn ------------------------------ Message: 4 ate: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) rom: Dawn Butler <dawncts@yahoo.com> ubject: [TSL] Seabird 1846 o: theshipslist@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <118502.5425.qm@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 oops- forgot his name -his name is Nicholas Sheehan just found information about my gggreat grandfather from the New York Emigrant avings Bank.? On this it says he arrived from Cork, Ireland in 1846 on what ooks like the "Seabird"? He was born around 1830 and had a mother- Mary (born round 1800), father-Richard, and brother-John (born around 1825)?that he may ave been travelling with.? In 1866 he was living in New York but I do not know f the ship arrived there.? I have looked for the ship but I cannot find one by hat name- maybe the name is a similar name that someone will recognize??? I uess it is also possible that the year is incorrect-on another census I have it ays he arrived in 1848.? Any help is greatly appreciated. hanks awn ------------------------------ Message: 5 ate: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:49:41 -0500 rom: "mbrat" <m-brat@comcast.net> ubject: [TSL] arivals in New England o: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <DCD32A10EFA44DAE939373D10EF2EF03@acer586e497f47> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could some one explained what ways were folks coming to Boston from Pictou/New lasgow, Nova Scotia around 1850 to 1870? I have my greatgrand parents on ensus records prior to 1850 in Pictou and New Glasgow Nova Scotia and then the irst child born in Boston in 1871. Looking for brothers Robert (born 1839, ictou) and Thomas (born 1/18/1842, Pictou) Gordon and sisters Isabella (nee armichael) (born 1842, New Glasgow), and Hannah (nee Carmichael) (born 7/1845, ew Glasgow) Gordon. Not sure who was married befor going to Boston. Gary Gordon -brat@comcast.net ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to HESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to HESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com ith the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of he mail with no additional text. nd of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 39 ******************************************

Could some one explained what ways were folks coming to Boston from Pictou/New Glasgow, Nova Scotia around 1850 to 1870? I have my greatgrand parents on census records prior to 1850 in Pictou and New Glasgow Nova Scotia and then the first child born in Boston in 1871. Looking for brothers Robert (born 1839, Pictou) and Thomas (born 1/18/1842, Pictou) Gordon and sisters Isabella (nee Carmichael) (born 1842, New Glasgow), and Hannah (nee Carmichael) (born 7/1845, New Glasgow) Gordon. Not sure who was married befor going to Boston. Gary Gordon m-brat@comcast.net

oops- forgot his name -his name is Nicholas Sheehan       I just found information about my gggreat grandfather from the New York Emigrant Savings Bank.  On this it says he arrived from Cork, Ireland in 1846 on what looks like the "Seabird"  He was born around 1830 and had a mother- Mary (born around 1800), father-Richard, and brother-John (born around 1825) that he may have been travelling with.  In 1866 he was living in New York but I do not know if the ship arrived there.  I have looked for the ship but I cannot find one by that name- maybe the name is a similar name that someone will recognize??  I guess it is also possible that the year is incorrect-on another census I have it says he arrived in 1848.  Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn

I just found information about my gggreat grandfather from the New York Emigrant Savings Bank.  On this it says he arrived from Cork, Ireland in 1846 on what looks like the "Seabird"  He was born around 1830 and had a mother- Mary (born around 1800), father-Richard, and brother-John (born around 1825) that he may have been travelling with.  In 1866 he was living in New York but I do not know if the ship arrived there.  I have looked for the ship but I cannot find one by that name- maybe the name is a similar name that someone will recognize??  I guess it is also possible that the year is incorrect-on another census I have it says he arrived in 1848.  Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn

I have not been able to find any immigration records for Klaasje Tijmens de Boer, born Feb 9, 1834 Spanga, Weststellingwerf, Holland with her husband IJssebrand Bouwes Oosten, born Jun 10, 1829 Oldetrijne, Weststellingwerf, Holland and 4 or 5 children. The little information I have is that Klaasje and IJssebrand emigrated to the US in 1877 and that IJssebrand died on the way. Can anyone help , please? Thank you, Hans Faber

Hello, Just a quick reminder that I've wondered for a long time what happened to John KIDDER during 1887. The "KIDDER book" only says he "loved the sea and died at sea in 1887." He could have been anywhere in the world, partly because his son had migrated to the Hawaiian Islands. John always lived along the Maine / New Brunswick border (from an 1830's birth). * Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) P.S. On the same large branch of my family-tree I have a gr-gr-grandfather from the Isle of Man and Liverpool, England, who was at least a Mariner from that area. His daughter reported him on her marriage certificate in Nova Scotia in 1879 that he was a Master Mariner, but I have not found a basis for that. * (He was the older brother of my gr-gr-grandfather, Joseph KIDDER, of Princeton, Maine, who had fought in the Civil War - in Florida - was seriously injured but returned to Maine to marry and have children. They had a younger brother, "Cal, Jr.," who like his father was a woodsman.)

John I searched the London Times and came up with this item from Feb 17, 1832: CAPTAIN HENRY COLOMBINE.--All persons having any CLAIMS upon the ESTATE of Captain HENRY COLOMBINE, late of the ship "Sarah," who died at sea on or about the 16th day of January last, are desired forthwith to send an account thereof to me; and those persons who stood indebted to the said Henry Colombine, at the time of his death, are requested to pay the amount thereof without delay. D.E. COLOMBINE, Solicitor to the Administration. Carlton-chambers, Regent-street, Feb. 16, 1832. Regards.. Marj At 09:18 PM 2/14/2010, John Goold wrote: >Hi listers, > > > >trying to find information on an American Brig called "INVINCIBLE". > > > >The ship was found in ditstress and abandoned of the coast of Spain >in July 1832. She was apparently bound from Spain to America. > > The Captain of the ship I am tracing, Captain Henry Colombine of > the ship SARAH, went aboard the Invincible and while on board the > ship suddenly rolled and sank taking him with it. > > > >Have checked LLoyds registers for this time but can find no mention >of the Invincible. > >Would like to find anything more than this, i.e size, age etc. > > > > > >John > > >_________________________________________________________________ >If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site >http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robin, The steamer "Port Victor" left Plymouth 20 May 1886, arrived Sydney (Oz) 8 July 1886. Hope this helps, Dave robin@scottishwool.com wrote: > Can someone tell me... > How long did a voyage to Australia take in 1893? Would a traveller get > there and back in say 3 months? > > > Robin > > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Trying to locate the passenger list from the 'good ship Sallie'. (More likely spelled Sally.) According to notes from a 1915 family reunion, the ship first sailed from Belfast in the fall of 1800. After passing thru the Irish Sea, the ship sprang a leak and returned to the harbor of Cork for repairs. They set sail again in the early part of 1801 in the same ship, and reached Charleston, SC in May of that year. Passengers hopefully included Patrick McGowan, his wife and 13 year old son William and 3 daughters; Andrew E. McWilliams with his wife Sarah Anne McGowan and a batchelor brother named Henry (not sure if McGowan or McWilliams); Janie (Jeannie) McWilliams - probably around 13 years old. The McGowans and McWilliams originally settled in the Cane Creek area near Cross Hill. Laurens County, SC Andrew E. and Sarah Anne McGowan McWilliams are my gg grandparents. Would appreciate any info. Thanks, Janet

Apologies to all I'm working on the story of two brothers. One Frederick James Gardner (b Dumfries 1873) 'went to USA' and we've little information about when but he is in Newcastle upon Tyne till 1911 and from 1935.. So I'll have to work on that for a bit before coming back to you all. The other William Henry Fenwick Gardner (b Dumfries 1871) possibly went to Australia. I found a Henry Gardner age 22 (English) who travelled to Freemantle, Australia on the Rotokino leaving from Southampton on May 10, 1893. Source BT27/136/1 The real question was would he have time to return to Tyneside to get married on September 10, 1893? I now have the answer .. As this was a steam ship no problem getting there in short order ... And back on a another steam ship. But I have not yet found evidence of the return journey so do not know if this was the same man. Tanks for the interest. Robin

Hi Robin, You don't say whether it was a steamship or a sailing vessel. If it was sail, it wouldn't change the time too much regardless of the decade, although passage times would fluctuate depending upon the weather and currents &c. Your subject line says 'voyages to USA and Australia' but I'm not sure of the starting country. eg. this page shows approximate passage time in days FROM Sydney Australia TO West Coast of America, south of the Equator 70 West Coast of America, north of the Equator 90 East Coast of America 130 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/proclamation.htm These pages show actual passage times from UK ports to Australian ports http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/1857-1858.htm http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/1859-1861.htm Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 07:48 AM 2010-02-15 +0000, robin@scottishwool.com wrote: >Can someone tell me... > How long did a voyage to Australia take in 1893? Would a traveller get >there and back in say 3 months? > > > Robin

Hi listers, trying to find information on an American Brig called "INVINCIBLE". The ship was found in ditstress and abandoned of the coast of Spain in July 1832. She was apparently bound from Spain to America. The Captain of the ship I am tracing, Captain Henry Colombine of the ship SARAH, went aboard the Invincible and while on board the ship suddenly rolled and sank taking him with it. Have checked LLoyds registers for this time but can find no mention of the Invincible. Would like to find anything more than this, i.e size, age etc. John _________________________________________________________________ If it exists, you'll find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/

My people left London 9 December 1883, arrived Hobart, Tasmania, 3 February 1884, via Plymouth and Cape Town. Ten years earlier than yours, but perhaps comparable. Marie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TSL] Voyages to USA and Australia From: robin@scottishwool.com <robin@scottishwool.com> To: TheShipList <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Date: 2/15/2010 12:48 AM > Can someone tell me... > How long did a voyage to Australia take in 1893? Would a traveller get > there and back in say 3 months? > > > Robin

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Can someone tell me... How long did a voyage to Australia take in 1893? Would a traveller get there and back in say 3 months? Robin

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*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for February 2010 is . . . o Passengers: o St. Lawrence - 1st trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 29th April 1829 o St. Lawrence - 2nd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 1st May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 3rd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 8th May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 4th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 13th May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 5th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 16th May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 6th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 22nd May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 7th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 26th May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 8th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 30th May 1829 o St. Lawrence - 9th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 6th June 1829 o St. Lawrence - 10th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 11th June 1829 We get to re-visit 1829 with the ST. LAWRENCE, the final steamboat list for 1829. For the most part they are beautifully legible (some years I think the compiler must have been a doctor <smile>) without too many weird spellings, although I think he must have been French as the French names are spelled the best. There are 35 passenger lists total for this steamboat. o Arrivals updated: o Ships to Quebec / Montreal 1834 (three pages) Some issues previously missing, have now been transcribed and added to the webpages ... for early May and June-July o Fleets: o Lancashire Shipping Co. Ltd / James Chambers & Co., Liverpool o Essex Steam Ship Co. Ltd. / Essex Line Ltd. (Meldrum & Swinson)1909-1945 Two more cargo / tramp Fleets from Henk and Ted. The next Fleet will be Delmas-Vieljeux, which originally began operation in 1867. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I have not been able to find any immigration records for Josephine Weidemann born 11 Dec 1902 Wuttemburg, Germany, her sister Theresa Weidemann Kuchle b. abt. 1894, another sister, Lena Weidemann Ludwig b. abt. 1893 and a brother Louis Weidemann b. abt. 1900 all born in Wuttemburg, Germany. The little information I have is that Josephine Weidemann immigrated to the US around the end of 1924. Her sisters supposedly immigrated with their husbands before that time, but in the early 1900's. Louis Weidemann immigrated in the same time period. Theresa's husband was Joseph Kuchle. Lena's husband was a Mr. Ludwig. Louis was not married when he immigrated. Can anyone help , please? I have checked Ellis Island records and found nothing. Thank you, Carole clannom@fuse.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hoy" <kbhoy@comcast.net> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:33 AM Subject: [TSL] Britannic Arrival Oct. 1881 > > Does anyone have information on the arrival of the > Britannic, Oct 3, 1881? I > am looking for Jane and William Allen of northern Ireland, > possibly with > daughters Louise, Ann and Mary Jane. I do not know the > ports they left > from, nor the arrival port. Hi Karen A clue as to which country would help ! Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW Australia