Hi I am researching the LOOMER / LOMER names. They spread far and wide, including Canada and USA. In 1820, a John Loomer was convicted of theft and sentenced to death, which was changed to transportation to Australia. He arrived in Sydney in 1822. I note the LOOMER family (himself with wife and children), were living in Sydney in 1828 and he was a servant to a Captain, location, Darling Harbour. His life would have been considerably better I think than what he had in the East End of London at that time. I'm interested if there are any LOOMER / LOMER descendents in Sydney and area, who would like to enlarge on the family history. John left England as John LOOMER but was recorded in Sydney as John LOMER. So I guess all the descendents will bear the name LOMER. My ancestors in East London bore the LOOMER name. As yet, I cannot find a positive link for John with my family in the same district of the East End. John Lomer / Loomer was born c.1799, so records are not always available on the internet. I presume he was single when convicted and met and married in Australia. I have to seek out what I found for the Australian record, as it was some years ago that I found it in the Family Records Centre in Kensington, London. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Because I am too far from the British or Australian archives, I have to use the internet. Many thanks, June :-)

Hello Listers, I'm new to the list and hoping for some advice I'm trying to find my great x 3 grandparents John & Isabella Britton and their son William when they came to Australia, they where married in Christchurch,Newgate London in 1815 and William was born in 1816, John died in Victoria approx 1863, a lot of the records on shipping that I've found don't start thet early, I've also checked the 1841 England census and they are not on that, any advice would be greatly appreciated Regards Marion Sydney Australia

Hi Valerie, This was before the Suez Canal opened and the Indus was on the Southampton to Alexandria route. Passengers would disembark at Alexandria and travel overland to Suez where they would join another ship to continue their voyage to Ceylon. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul and Valerie" <pandvarich@tiscali.co.uk> To: "THE SHIPS LIST" <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: [TSL] DEATH AT SEA - "INDUS" > > Hi List, > > Can anyone tell me where records are kept if someone died at sea? A > passenger on the INDUS in 1853 travelling to London from Ceylon. Also are > there any surviving log books for passenger ships or surgeons records? > > kind regards > Valerie > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 18:32:00

Hi List, Can anyone tell me where records are kept if someone died at sea? A passenger on the INDUS in 1853 travelling to London from Ceylon. Also are there any surviving log books for passenger ships or surgeons records? kind regards Valerie

Hi, While searching for something else I came across the following website. They have passenger lists for only 20 vessels. But if you are looking for one of the twenty, you are in luck. The first page tells you how you go about getting the items you want, the second shows the information that I posted below. http://www.cah.utexas.edu/services/finding_items/newspapers_nymorgues.php http://www.cah.utexas.edu/services/finding_items/ship.php Briscoe Center for American History Box # Ship Name Port and Date # of Family Names 3C31 1. James Edward: Antwerp, 16 September 1856 57 family names 2. Colchis: Antwerp, 27 August 1846 43 family names 3. Element: Antwerp, 23 August 1846 58 family names 4. York: Antwerp, 12 August 1846 42 family names 5. Johann Dethard: Bremen, 18 April 1845 30 family names 6. Johann Dethard: Bremen, 30 September 1845 3 family names 7. Bohemia: Antwerp, 1 August 1846 36 family names 8. Orient: Bremen, 26 September 1846 26 family names 9. Elisa & Charlotte: Bremen, 26 August 1846 120 names of individuals 10. Andacia: Antwerp, 5 December 1845 68 family names 11. Hamilton: Antwerp, 15 December 1845 27 family names 12. Talismann: Antwerp, 30 December 1845 50 family names 13. Diamant: Antwerp, 19 January 1846 30 family names 14. Nahant: Antwerp, 25 November 1845 Wrecked 18 March 1846: Most passengers continued voyage on the Timoleon 34 family names 15. Harriet: Antwerp, 18 November 1845 41 family names 16. Dyle: Antwerp, 17 November 1845 45 family names 17. Riga: Antwerp, 7 November 1845 34 family names 3C30 18. Weser: 1845 (bound in with correspondence) Anna Blasig Papers Box # Ship Name Port and Date # of Family Names 3H71 19. Ben Nevis: 1854 Henri Castro Papers Box # Ship Name Port and Date # of Family Names 3S167 20. L'Ebro: 1842 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Valerie The London Times of Jan 18, 1853 reports that the Indus was in London preparing for a departure. She sailed on Jan 20, (reported in the Saturday, Jan 22, Times), with Captain John Soy in command. She sailed again from Southampton on Friday, March 4, (reported in Mar 5, Times). On March 29, the Times reported that she was due back at Southampton on April 4. From this we can see that she was making very regular trips back and forth from the far east. For your July departure she sailed from Southampton on June 4. On June 27, the Times reported: On the 14th inst. the Bengal spoke the Peninsular and Oriental Cmpany's ship Indus with the outward India mails of the 4th inst., 164 miles E.S.E. of Malta, steering for Alexandria;... On July 5, the Times reported that the ship was due at Southampton in a few days. She sailed from Southampton again on Wed. July 20 (reported in Times of Thursday, July 21). It appears the trip was taking about 2 weeks in each direction. No mention of passengers by name. Regards.. Marj At 09:33 AM 4/13/2010, Paul and Valerie wrote: >Hi List, > >I am trying to find details of a voyage of my ancestor. Her name >was Harriet COLEPEPPER (COLEPEPER) a passenger on board a Steamer >named 'INDUS' I have looked on Google and I think the ship was a >Peninsula & Orient ship. There is an entry in the Allens Indian >Mail 1853 July which was returning to England. She had lived in >Kandy/Colombo, Ceylon for 9 years with her husband John Spencer >COLEPEPER who was Superintendent for the Colombo Police. He >returned home in 1859 alone and died in 1862 London. He was a widow >on the 1861 census in London. I cannot find Harriet's death entry >in General Registration under all variants of her surname. I am >wondering if she went home because she was ill and died at sea. She >was born 1794. He first husband was Frederick THOMPSON a Lieut in >the RN and her maiden name was SOUTH. > >Any help with this mystery will be much appreciated. > >regards >Valerie Richards >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for April 2010 is . . . o Fleets: o Clyde Line / Clyde-Mallory Line o Mallory Line / Clyde-Mallory Line Clyde Line opererating out of Philadelphia ... Mallory Line (ex New York & Texas Steamship Co.) out of New York, combined forces in 1932. o Passengers: o St. Lawrence - 25th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 26th August 1829 o St. Lawrence - 26th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 31st August 1829 o St. Lawrence - 27th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 4th September 1829 o St. Lawrence - 28th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 9th September 1829 o St. Lawrence - 29th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 15th September 1829 o St. Lawrence - 30th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 19th September 1829 o St. Lawrence - 31st trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 24th September 1829 o St. Lawrence - 32nd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 30th September 1829 — Scots o St. Lawrence - 33rd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 3rd October 1829 o St. Lawrence - 34th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 9th October 1829 o St. Lawrence - 35th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 14th October 1829 Finally, the last of the 1829 steamships with the completion of the ST. LAWRENCE lists. Tomkyns Hilgrove Turner, the Governor of Bermuda was on the 4 September trip. Some cabin passengers on the 19 September trip who had arrived at Quebec Sept. 18 aboard the brig CHERUB, from Greenock. The 30 September trip has quite a few Scots who look like they may have arrived at Quebec Sept. 27 on the brig FAVOURITE from Greenock, Captain Alexander Allan ... father of Hugh Allan the founder of the future "Allan Line." Soldiers of the 24th Regiment were aboard the 9th October trip, they had arrived at Quebec Oct. 07 aboard the ship KEANS, from London. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi List, I am trying to find details of a voyage of my ancestor. Her name was Harriet COLEPEPPER (COLEPEPER) a passenger on board a Steamer named 'INDUS' I have looked on Google and I think the ship was a Peninsula & Orient ship. There is an entry in the Allens Indian Mail 1853 July which was returning to England. She had lived in Kandy/Colombo, Ceylon for 9 years with her husband John Spencer COLEPEPER who was Superintendent for the Colombo Police. He returned home in 1859 alone and died in 1862 London. He was a widow on the 1861 census in London. I cannot find Harriet's death entry in General Registration under all variants of her surname. I am wondering if she went home because she was ill and died at sea. She was born 1794. He first husband was Frederick THOMPSON a Lieut in the RN and her maiden name was SOUTH. Any help with this mystery will be much appreciated. regards Valerie Richards

Hi: I've already asked Marj about this, but thought I'd also ask the list about it. Where would I find information about assisted passage to Canada on Temperley Line ships? Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________ Live connected. Get Hotmail & Messenger on your phone. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724462

Hello, I am trying to help a cousin who has just contacted me in her hunt for her ancestors. The Mother had died in Martinque 1715, and 3-5 years later, the father, John (Jean) CHAUMETTE came to america with his 3 sons, names of: John (jean), Samuel and Daniel. Here the surname changes spelling. Orginal is French. Now is SHUMATE/SHORMAKE/SHUMATE ( so far). The Father settle then in Elk Run, Staford CO. VA, where he died in 1722. How can I find the name of the boat they sailed on? or any other info about the vessel? Thank you so much for the help. Its appreciated. ~Linda~ Willow Creek, CA. Give more than you gain, and you'll have more pleasure than pain.

Carol On May 2, 1873 in the London Times was this ad: CANADA.--Assisted Passages from London to Quebec are granted by the Dominion Government to passengers by the fine STEAMSHIPS of the TEMPERLEY LINE, who will have to pay only £4 15s. each person over eight years, £2 7s. 6d. one to eight years, and 14s. 2d. infants. SS Delta leaves Victoria Docks Saturday, 10th May. SS Nyanza leaves Victoria Docks Wednesday, 21st May. SS Thames leaves Victoria Docks Saturday, 31st May. Temperleys, Carter, and Darke, Brokers, 21, Billiter-street, E.C. And right below is another ad: TEMPERLEY LINE.--Steam.--LONDON to QUEBEC and MONTREAL.--The splendid, powerful, new steamship DELTA, classed 13 years Liverpool Book, J.H. STEPHENS, Commander, will leave London on Saturday, 10th May, and Ply- mouth, 12th May. The splendid, powerful steamship NYANZA, W. FISHER, Commander, will leave London on Wednesday, 21st May, and Plymouth, 23d May. Goods and passengers are taken at through rates to all important places in Canada and the United States. These steamships have superior accommodation for chief cabin and steerage passengers, carry doctors and stewardesses, and load in Vic- toria (London) Dock.--Thos. Meadows and Co., Shipping Agents, The Albany, Old Hall-street, Liverpool, and 35, Milk-street, Cheapside; Temperleys, Carter, and Darke, Brokers, 21, Billiter-street. The next trip is in July 14, 1873 Times: TEMPERLEY LINE.--Steam.--LONDON to QUEBEC and MONTREAL, under contract with the Dominion Government for assisted passengers from London--The splendid, powerful steamship NYANZA, W. FISHER, Commander, will leave London, Wednesday, 16th July, and Plymouth, 18th July. The splen- did, powerful steamship Thames, A. Hyde, Commander, will leave London, 26th July, and Plymouth, 28th July. Goods and passengers are taken at through rates to all important places in Canada and the United States. These steamships have superior accommodation for chief cabin and steerage passengers, carry doctors and stewardesses, and load in Victoria (London) Dock.--Thos. Meadows and Co., Ship- ping Agents, The Albany, Old Hall-street, Liverpool, and 35, Milk- street, Cheapside; Temperleys, Carter, and Darke, Brokers, 21, Billi- ter-street. Regards.. Marj At 10:07 PM 4/8/2010, Carol Collins wrote: >Hi: > >Does anyone know where I can find information >about the S.S. Nyanza of the Temperley Line that >sailed from London, England to Quebec, Canada in >July 1873? I'm looking for any information about >the Captain, the state of the ship and any pictures of the ship. > >I already have an extract of the passenger list from ancestry.ca. > >Regards, > >Carol Collins > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail & Messenger. Get them on your phone now. >http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone. Just a quick note to let you know that my database of transcriptions from the Lloyd's Registers of British and Foreign Shipping has been moved to a faster server. The new URL is: http://users.xplornet.com/~shipping/Lloyds.htm Please update your bookmarks and/or links. This is posted with the permission of the List Owner. Gilbert Provost

Hi Carol, In addition to what Ted wrote, these are the voyage details and Captain name. Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4528 NYANZA London, England 1873-07-14 / Plymouth, England 1873-07-17 Quebec, Que. 1873-08-05 / Montreal, Que. (TEMP) Temperley Line - charter List Number: 53; Captain Walter Fisher This particular passenger list is last page to first page on Ancestry, so if you go the the last image (7) you will see the first page which contains the Captain name and London sailing date. No picture unfortunately Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 02:07 AM 2010-04-09 +0000, Carol Collins wrote: >Hi: > >Does anyone know where I can find information about the S.S. Nyanza of the >Temperley Line that sailed from London, England to Quebec, Canada in July >1873? I'm looking for any information about the Captain, the state of the >ship and any pictures of the ship. > >I already have an extract of the passenger list from ancestry.ca. > >Regards, > >Carol Collins

I too am looking for biographical information of a Captain John F Booth. What I do know is that he was master of the 'Sarah Ann' in the 1870-80's. The Sarah Ann sailed out of Melbourne and made frequent trips to Sydney and Hobart. There is a vague mention of a trip to the coral sea in the mid 1870's with a return trip via Darwin, and Perth. There is also the suggestion of Blackbirding. I'm trying to collect as much as possible about the movements of the ship and perhaps a record of the crews in the late 1860's and early 1870's. He was the foster parent of my Great Grandfather, and I have a hunch that my Great Grandfathr's father was a member of the crew, or a Merchant in Melbourne. Much thanks. Paul Booth

Hi Carol, The NYANZA was an 1,870 ton ship, built in 1867 and owned by J. Dunkerley & Co (Mercantile SS Co) for their Mediterranean services. In 1873 she was chartered to the Temperley Line for three voyages from London to Quebec and Montreal and then returned to her owners. In 1893 she sailed from Glasgow for Livorno, Italy and went missing. Not much help I know, but every little helps! Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Collins" <collinscarol@hotmail.com> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 3:07 AM Subject: [TSL] S.S. Nyanza, Temperley Line > > > Hi: > > Does anyone know where I can find information about the S.S. Nyanza of the > Temperley Line that sailed from London, England to Quebec, Canada in July > 1873? I'm looking for any information about the Captain, the state of the > ship and any pictures of the ship. > > I already have an extract of the passenger list from ancestry.ca. > > Regards, > > Carol Collins > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail & Messenger. Get them on your phone now. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463 > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2797 - Release Date: 04/07/10 18:32:00

Hi: Does anyone know where I can find information about the S.S. Nyanza of the Temperley Line that sailed from London, England to Quebec, Canada in July 1873? I'm looking for any information about the Captain, the state of the ship and any pictures of the ship. I already have an extract of the passenger list from ancestry.ca. Regards, Carol Collins _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail & Messenger. Get them on your phone now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724463

Does anyone know the dates for the sailing of the Queen Mary from England in April, 1946 (the War-bride Trips)? Thank you, Louis McGowan

Hello Listers, I am new to this list, am trying to find a GGF Master Mariner (at least here in Australia) John Charles Bennett. His children's birth certificates indicate that he was born in the Devonshire in 1825. I find him first in 1852 married to Eliza Ann Nice, NSW The last time I find him is on the death certificate in 1876 of 2nd wife Ellen (Kelly) in QLD. I do not know how or when he got to Australia. So starts the job of ruling out people with like names. In 1850 THE COUNTESS OF YOURBROUGH left London 15-2-1850 via Plymouth 23-2-1850 to Port Adelaide 16-6-1850. The captain was JOHN BENNETT. Could the list do a search for me and tell me all there is about this captain that may or may not help me please ? With thanks Gordon Bennett

Looking for departure information about the SS Trave. According to the manifest it arrived on 11 Sept 1891 from Bremen and Southampton. Is there a way to get any information about the people that boarded in Germany? Thanks, Tom Dempsey _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4

I am looking for Catherine Diegel/Deigel.  If my birth information is correct, she would be about 30.  I believe that she and her father, John/Johann immigrated to Baltimore on the Phoenix from Bremen about 1833.  Would anyone have a ship's list they could check please? Thank you Laurie