Hello! List Members! I have just started my Irish research. Census records have listed my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Betty) MAHER / MAHAR as being born at sea in 1805. The only thing I am sure of is she was Irish! I was wondering if someone could tell me where to look for ship records (Ireland to England) for 1805. I am thinking Elizabeth and her family came into Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Eliabeth married Aaron HOWARD in 1826 and settled in Ashton under Lyne, lived there, had a large family and are buried there. I have no idea who her parents were at this time! I am told the largest concentration of MAHER/MAHARs are from County Tipperary, Ireland. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester Georgia, USA

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for June 2010 is . . . o Passengers: o John Molson - 6th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 6th June 1832 ... more than 900 passengers o John Molson - 7th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 11th June 1832 o ... o barque August, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 9th May 1855 o ship La Rochelle, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 3rd September 1855 I've been a little out of sight these last couple of weeks transcribing literally hundreds and hundreds of passengers. ..phew! The 6th trip of the JOHN MOLSON steamboat was the last with those huge numbers of emigrant passengers. I just can't get my head around being able to fit SO many on that steamboats. It was large compared to some of the others,154' long and 23' wide, ......... but I can't imagine a couple of days in those conditions, especially right after weeks on the ocean !! New regulations were introduced by a Montreal committee and published in the Montreal Gazette in June 1832, limiting the numbers of passengers. eg. the John Molson could only carry 300. The full text is on the index page ... http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_36stlawrence.htm The 7th trip carried only 32 cabin passengers and 302 steerage passengers (they made an error and throught they only had 292 steerage passengers) From passenger number 167 to 229 there is no "Amount Paid" entered, so those passengers would have held Emigration Society (ES) tickets. I would make a leap to consider that all / most of those on the 7th trip with ES tickets were Scots. When the 1832 newspapers are transcribed, we'll be able to check which vessel(s) brought those settlers to Quebec in the few days prior to June 11th. Of the two new passenger lists for 1855 from Germany to South Australia, the LA ROCHELLE certainly carried the most ... about 500. I think that is the most passenger that Robert and I have had to deal with, from UK or Germany. By comparison the AUGUST carried fewer that 200 passengers, mostly single, however, interesting to note that this vessel carried quite a large number of Swiss, many with very Italian names. Not surprising really, as they came from the Italian border side of Switzerland. Both of these lists are terrific, and we could do lots of cross-referencing. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Now would be a good time to join the battle to save HMVS Cerberus one of the most historically important 19th Century warships remaining in the world. Built in Britain in 1868 Cerberus is the last Ironclad Breastwork Monitor in the world, she was the first major British Warship to dispense with sails and formed the patten for the Pre-Dreadnought Battleships C. 1870-1905. She was the second warship to go through the Suez`Canal. The former Flagship of the Victorian Colonial Navy, of which she is the last survivor, she is also, easily, the oldest surviving warship to have served in the Royal Australian Navy, formed in 1911. She features two of the only three Cowper Coles Gun Turrets in the world and the only two with the original RML guns available. This ship should be preserved and restored as a priceless heritage treasure, an educational center and a tourist attraction. If you live in Australia, or elsewhere in the world, there has never been a better, or more important time to show your support for our maritime and Naval heritage. Join the worldwide membership of Friends of the Cerberus (website link below) and lets save the ship! To succeed in this project we need your help, time is running out, please join us, both paid and free memberships are available... Ted http://www.cerberus.com.au/ See also my Cerberus Yahoo Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Restore_Cerberus/ No clean feed: Help fight internet censorship http://www.efa.org.au/category/censorship/ At about: Lat: 37° 49'S Lon: 145° 1'E.

Hi Martha, I agree, they probably arrived via Quebec, then steamboat to Montreal and then maybe through St. Jean, then Lake Champlain to Berkshire. Canada did not begin to formally archive passenger lists before 1865, so very few do survive, however, TheShipsList website has the St. Lawrence Steamboat passenger lists. St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records Pt. 1 - 1819-1825: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20index.htm St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records Pt. 2 - 1826-1836: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_36stlawrence.htm The St. Lawrence Steamboat Company was not the only one operating on the River, from Quebec to Montreal. It is, however, the only one for which some records survive. It may be possible to identify a probable sailing ship of arrival for some groups found on the steamboats, by studying Quebec ship arrivals as reported in contemporary newspapers. The new settlers usually proceeded inward on the steamboats within 2-3 days after Quebec arrival. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm#canada There are customized google search boxes on the Passenger List index page http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/index.htm ... you can use the "Search N. America Lists" for O'Brien (there are lots) but to limit the results you can use the advanced search eg. add Montreal to get only the steamboat lists, for the most part. Good luck ... hope you find a family which fits ... some records don't indicate first name or even initial Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:41 AM 2010-06-08 -0400, mehdeegan@aol.com wrote: > I am searching for the ship(s) on which my g-g-grandparents >traveled to America. > Margaret O'Brien traveled with brother Miles O'Brien, Miles' wife >Mary Curley (or Turley) O'Brien, and infant daughter Mary O'Brien, from >Co. Clare, Ireland, to Berkshire, Vermont on the Canadian border, 95% >likely in 1830, as next child, Elizabeth, was born in Vermont Feb. 12, >1831. We have one family resource who refers to "Miles" as "John," but >that may be a red herring. > Miles O'Brien was born in Leitrim, Ireland in 1777, and wife Mary >was born 1809. Family lore says infant Mary O'Brien contracted a mild >case of smallpox on ship, and was kept in the Captain's quarters until >she recovered. They likely traveled to Canada, then overland to St. >Jean, then south on Lake Champlaign. > They possibly traveled with the Low Family, Patrick Giblin, and >the Marlowe family. > All help will be greatly appreciated. >-Martha Deegan

I am searching for the ship(s) on which my g-g-grandparents traveled to America. Margaret O'Brien traveled with brother Miles O'Brien, Miles' wife Mary Curley (or Turley) O'Brien, and infant daughter Mary O'Brien, from Co. Clare, Ireland, to Berkshire, Vermont on the Canadian border, 95% likely in 1830, as next child, Elizabeth, was born in Vermont Feb. 12, 1831. We have one family resource who refers to "Miles" as "John," but that may be a red herring. Miles O'Brien was born in Leitrim, Ireland in 1777, and wife Mary was born 1809. Family lore says infant Mary O'Brien contracted a mild case of smallpox on ship, and was kept in the Captain's quarters until she recovered. They likely traveled to Canada, then overland to St. Jean, then south on Lake Champlaign. They possibly traveled with the Low Family, Patrick Giblin, and the Marlowe family. All help will be greatly appreciated. -Martha Deegan

This is a follow up on my past post dealing with the family of Victor Stern sailing from France on the ss Graix (can't read the name). I originally thought the ship sailed to the USA, but now I'm not sure.  Victor and his family fairs were paid for in PESOS, by his sponsor.  I am wondering now if they went to South America instead.  The date of Dec. 10, 1949 I am now wondering is it an arrival or departure date. The original questions of who made up this family, ages, where they originally came from, etc still need to be answered if I can find them on a ship's manifests.. Thank you. Steve Pickholtz New Jersey

Hi, I am seeking help from the list for the arrival of Frank "Franz" Hess who arrived in NY on March 8, 1888 from Hamburg, Germany. According to his naturalization papers, he was born in Schmulinchen, (That's the spelling on the papers, but it may not be correct) Germany, but his last residence was Yerkenberg, Russia. He arrived in the port of New York. I do not believe the cities are spelled correctly, and I have not found a ship which arrived on / around March 8, 1888. He was married to Wilhelmina, also Germany and at least one son, Henry or Heinrich. All assistance is most welcome. Karen Karen B. Hoy kbhoy@comcast.net

Could someone look up a ship's manifest for me.  Here is the little bit of info I know-------------- The ship sailed from France to the USA on Dec. 10, 1949. My info says the ship was the SS Graix (it was hard to read the ship's name). On board was the Victor Stern Family. I would like to learn the arrival port; All the members of this Stern family and their ages; Where they were going in the USA; and their occupations. Any other info that might be on the manifest would be great. Thank you very much. Steve Pickholtz New Jersey

Hi Wendy, If you haven't already found them - there are a few articles on line at the following Australian Newspapers online site about the Princess Royal's arrival in 1832. http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2208637?searchTerm=Princess+Royal+1832 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12297302?searchTerm=Princess+Royal+1832 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8646728?searchTerm=Princess+Royal+1832 Regards Martyn This e-mail may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must not disclose this email to anyone without express permission from the sender. The contents of all emails sent to, and received from, Optus may be scanned, stored, or disclosed to others by Optus at Optus' discretion. 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Re: Steamship Suevia (Marj Kohli) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:13:58 -0400 From: Marj Kohli <marj@uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: [TSL] Princess Royal 1832 ENG>AUS To: "Wendy Evans" <wev70950@bigpond.net.au>, <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <201006012214.o51ME4hn027889@jubilation.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, Wendy I checked the London Times to see if there were any details on this group of immigrants. The April 17, 1832 Times reported her sailing from "Gravesend, April 14 and 15.--...Sailed, ...Princess Royal, for Hobart Town;" Other than that there is no mention of her. Regards.. Marj At 06:45 AM 5/26/2010, Wendy Evans wrote: >Hello, > >I was hoping that somebody could advise me . My ancestor was Jane >BARKER. According to the arrivals in Tasmania archives, she arrived >on the Princess Royal in Hobart in 1832. On the list she was >described as a widow with one child. I am trying to find out if >there would be any more information available for her. > >I would appreciate any help or information. > >Regards >Wendy >Queensland, Australia >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:36:42 -0400 From: Marj Kohli <marj@uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: [TSL] "The City of Manchester" England to Australia 1851 To: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au>, "MARINERS Mailing List" <Mariners-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: THE SHIPS LIST <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <201006012236.o51MamFF002130@jubilation.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Pam The London Times of Feb 7, 1851 has an ad for this ship: FOR ADELAIDE and PORT PHILIP, to sail 25th February, the magnificent frigate-built, Indiaman CITY of MANCHESTER, 1,800 tons; loading at the Jetty, London Docks. This splendid vessel has very great height between decks, and offers unri- vailed accommodation to cabin and intermediate passengers. Inter- mediate passage, ?15. She will call at Plymouth, and carry an expe- rienced surgeon. Apply to Fry and Davison, 113, Fenchurch-street. That is all I can find on her. Regards.. Marj At 09:25 PM 5/12/2010, PMR wrote: >Hello Listers > > As I've forgotten whether I should post to Mariners or TSL, I'm >sending this to both. > > The "City of Manchester" arrived in Melbourne (Port Phillip), >Victoria, Australia on 23 Sep 1851 having left the UK - possibly one port >being Plymouth. > > Would anyone have any information of where in the UK and when >this vessel departed on this voyage, please? My ggf was a passenger. > > Many thanks. > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:43:51 -0400 From: Marj Kohli <marj@uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: [TSL] Steamship Suevia To: Pat S <pstrat1@att.net>, THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <201006012243.o51Mhvqx002815@jubilation.uwaterloo.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Pat The NY Times of June 17, reported the arrival of the ship. Steam-ship Suevia, (Ger.,) Frauzen, Hamburg June 2, via Havre 5th, with mdse. and 79 cabin and 491 ster- age passengers to Kunhardt & Co. June 11, lat. 44 39, lon. 40 32, spoke bark Johann Kepler. (Ger.,) from Bre- men, for New-York; 16th, lat. 40 39, lon. 60 02, an Anchor Line steam-ship bound E., same date, lat. 40 57. lon. 60 34, an Inman steam-ship do.; same date, lat. 60 50, a Bremen steamship do. Regards.. Marj At 08:29 PM 5/13/2010, Pat S wrote: >My Great Grandmother arrived in New York on 17 June 1875.aboard the Suevia. >On what dates did the ship sail from the ports of Hamburg and La Harve? > >Thank you for your help. > >Pat S. in CA >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to THESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Pat The NY Times of June 17, reported the arrival of the ship. Steam-ship Suevia, (Ger.,) Frauzen, Hamburg June 2, via Havre 5th, with mdse. and 79 cabin and 491 ster- age passengers to Kunhardt & Co. June 11, lat. 44 39, lon. 40 32, spoke bark Johann Kepler. (Ger.,) from Bre- men, for New-York; 16th, lat. 40 39, lon. 60 02, an Anchor Line steam-ship bound E., same date, lat. 40 57. lon. 60 34, an Inman steam-ship do.; same date, lat. 60 50, a Bremen steamship do. Regards.. Marj At 08:29 PM 5/13/2010, Pat S wrote: >My Great Grandmother arrived in New York on 17 June 1875.aboard the Suevia. >On what dates did the ship sail from the ports of Hamburg and La Harve? > >Thank you for your help. > >Pat S. in CA >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam The London Times of Feb 7, 1851 has an ad for this ship: FOR ADELAIDE and PORT PHILIP, to sail 25th February, the magnificent frigate-built, Indiaman CITY of MANCHESTER, 1,800 tons; loading at the Jetty, London Docks. This splendid vessel has very great height between decks, and offers unri- vailed accommodation to cabin and intermediate passengers. Inter- mediate passage, £15. She will call at Plymouth, and carry an expe- rienced surgeon. Apply to Fry and Davison, 113, Fenchurch-street. That is all I can find on her. Regards.. Marj At 09:25 PM 5/12/2010, PMR wrote: >Hello Listers > > As I've forgotten whether I should post to Mariners or TSL, I'm >sending this to both. > > The "City of Manchester" arrived in Melbourne (Port Phillip), >Victoria, Australia on 23 Sep 1851 having left the UK - possibly one port >being Plymouth. > > Would anyone have any information of where in the UK and when >this vessel departed on this voyage, please? My ggf was a passenger. > > Many thanks. > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Hi, Wendy I checked the London Times to see if there were any details on this group of immigrants. The April 17, 1832 Times reported her sailing from "Gravesend, April 14 and 15.--...Sailed, ...Princess Royal, for Hobart Town;" Other than that there is no mention of her. Regards.. Marj At 06:45 AM 5/26/2010, Wendy Evans wrote: >Hello, > >I was hoping that somebody could advise me . My ancestor was Jane >BARKER. According to the arrivals in Tasmania archives, she arrived >on the Princess Royal in Hobart in 1832. On the list she was >described as a widow with one child. I am trying to find out if >there would be any more information available for her. > >I would appreciate any help or information. > >Regards >Wendy >Queensland, Australia >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for May 2010 is . . . o Passengers: o John Molson - 4th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 25th May 1832 . . nearly 800 passengers o John Molson - 5th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 1st June 1832 o ... o ship Grand Trianon, from Liverpool to Port Adelaide 23rd April 1860 Only three new passenger lists this week, but l o t s of passengers. The JOHN MOLSON steamboat 4th trip with almost 800 passengers amd the 5th trip with about 320. I really like this particular list compiler because you can mostly read his handwriting and he usually adds first name of the 'head' of the group. eg. The John Rowentree / Rowntree family on the 5th trip with tickets from the Canada Company has quite a bit written about him ... he ran saw-mills in York (Toronto). I'm sure many of the other family's have their stories too. ... The GRAND TRIANON was the first emigrant vessel from UK to Adelaide for 1860, with about 360 passengers ... quite a few Scots on this voyage. There was two births aboard although we don't know who they were and there was only one death, an adult ... all in all a good trip. As they neared their destination, they barely avoided going ashore at Holdfast Bay. They were distracted by what they thought was the "Lightship" (used to guide them) but averted trouble when they realised they were in shallow water. I found the reason mentioned later, in the newspaper. Seems the lamp from the "St. Leonard's Inn" was the culprit, so the harbour master arranged for that lamp to be darkened on the south and west sides. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hello Elizabeth I do have Australian records with UK Heritage sub, but am not sure what is in them. Have you tried these online records which are free. I realise that not every ship is covered, but have found it useful. http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/indexes-online#immigration-and-shipping Cheers Sandy PS I severely dislike what Ancestry have done with their search site. The UK censuses are annoying to begin with. "Progress" is not always progress IMHO!! rummins wrote: > Dear Listers, > > Slightly off topic , but do any listers know if the World Delux subscription > for Ancestry includes access to Australian records or have these been > omitted from that form of membership. I see UK records are included. > Particularly, I am interested in records of Immigration and Shipping into > New South Wales that can be viewed on Library Edition Ancestry sites. > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "rummins" <rummins@optusnet.com.au> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: [TSL] Records covered under 'World Deluxe' level of AncestryMembership > Dear Listers, > > Slightly off topic , but do any listers know if the World Deluxe > subscription > for Ancestry includes access to Australian records or have these been > omitted from that form of membership. Hi Elizabeth I have an annual world deluxe membership sub to Ancestry and that covers ALL of their data bases so certainly includes the Australian ones . Only hassle I find with Ancestry is their screen format / layout changes . Its been abysmal for some 6 weeks now. .I use the Electoral Rolls a lot and currently this pre empts what I want to type ( Genesreunited does the same, although not as bad as Ancestry) If I type in for location ' Victoria' some 15 choices come up........... These are Australian electoral rolls and I shouldn't need to stipulate Victoria , Australia . Key word examples are the words ' pilot' and 'flying tigers' , which are meaningless in relation to this data Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia

Dear Listers, Slightly off topic , but do any listers know if the World Delux subscription for Ancestry includes access to Australian records or have these been omitted from that form of membership. I see UK records are included. Particularly, I am interested in records of Immigration and Shipping into New South Wales that can be viewed on Library Edition Ancestry sites. When searching the Ancestry site for details of the items included in this World Delux category there is the last item indicating "other items" being shown but fails to actually show just what are included! I am thinking about taking out a subscription and feel that World Delux should cover Australia but would like confirmation prior to signing up. If any Listers can clarify this for me I would be most appreciative. Thank you, Elizabeth

Francis M. Crawford age 43 male born Coolidge Limestone Co Texas 1894. Arrived on the CONTESSA in New Orleans from Cristobal, Canal Zone on 6 Dec 1837. What kind of ship was this? Census list Crawford as a boiler maker working for an Oil Co. in Texas 1930. Curious as to why he was in the Canal Zone. Dorothy Cox

----- Original Message ----- From: "P B" <t.barc37@aussiebroadband.com.au> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: [TSL] Ireland to Melbourne Australia between 1910-1914 sometime > Thomas Stewart born 1891, born either Whiteabbey or Woodburn, Co > Antrim, N. Ireland. Arrived Melbourne, Victoria but later settled near > Brisbane in Queensland. Aged somewhere between 19 and 24 at the time > of embarkation. Unsure if travelling with anyone else. > Hi PB Have you checked in findmypasts migration data base ?? Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia

Betty, Our own Marj Kohli would be able to address most of your questions, but she is away from her computer at present. Marj has a wonderful website Young Immigrants to Canada http://jubilation.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/homeadd.html And she has written a fabulous book on the subject The Golden Bridge: Young Immigrants to Canada, 1833-1839 from Dundurn Press October 2003. http://www.dundurn.com/books/golden_bridge Regards, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 06:23 AM 2010-05-28 -0400, Betty wrote: >Hello, > >I don't remember whether I've asked this question recently. But, I >wondered if there is any information, or any data base, which tells of the >ships which carried the "Former Child Migrants." I'm not sure of the >years this particular scheme went on, but I had thought it was in the 1910 >to 1960 timeframe. > >I've had trouble before finding a web site which had a good history of this >"Child Migration Scheme" which involved sending the children from the United >Kingdom to Australia, New Zealand, Africa, Malta, etc. But, I just now >found this web site. But, I'm surprised it only mentions the 1938 to 1950 >timeframe. > >http://www.childmigrantstrust.com/our-work/child-migration-history > >I clicked on other things on that web site and see the scheme went on >possibly up to 1970. Another web site reminds us of all the "ABUSE" >those children suffered from - which was slightly different from what >happened in Canada. > >When the ships left the U.K. and were heading to Canada, there were >sometimes 300 to 500 "unwanted children" on each ship. Young adults were >sometimes allowed to get on the ships with them - if there was room. >So, I'm curious whether that many "unwanted children" were on a particular >ship heading to Australia. Or, were they put on a ship which was >already heading there with other passengers? > >Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)

Hi Sue, For the hundreds of researchers on the BHC List, she is also "our Marj." :o) I've corresponded with her many times. But, I think she has mostly concentrated on the children arriving in Canada. And, I was able to borrow her great book on an intra-library loan last year. I didn't take the time to read it, but I did browse through it. Thank you for responding. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> To: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net>; <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] Ships which Carried "Former Child Migrants" ?? > Betty, > > Our own Marj Kohli would be able to address most of your questions, but > she is away from her computer at present. Marj has a wonderful website > > Young Immigrants to Canada > http://jubilation.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/homeadd.html > > And she has written a fabulous book on the subject > > The Golden Bridge: Young Immigrants to Canada, 1833-1839 from Dundurn > Press October 2003. > http://www.dundurn.com/books/golden_bridge > >