I have an Agnes Gurman arriving in Quebec on the Circassian, 22 ndMay 1893, Agnes was born Hampshire 1876 so was 17yrs,I know She was back in Hampshire [Copythorne] in January 1895 Wher her son Ernest William [Gurman] was born and raised by Grandparents Charles and Emma Gurman, Can some kind lister tell me how I can Find when Agnes returned to England By 1895 , I have tried Ships to Engand but so very many of them, is this the only way, Much appreciated, Ida C Gurman , Australia

How fantastic Sue, it must be so nice being able to answer those questions. I have reached the same conclusion about my gt grandmother - I think I may never find anymore out about her and its so frustrating! If I did, it would be truly amazing! Just incase her name was Minnie Nelson born 1873, Shanghai, China, father Andrew Nelson, who was deceased at the time of her marriage in 1896. She appears in Anglesey on the 1891 census staying with her Aunt Mary Thomas. I have tried every avenue possible to trace her birth and failed and had no luck finding her leaving Shanghai or arriving in the UK. The fact she is listed as niece to Mary Thomas in 1891 might suggest her mother was Welsh & had the maiden name Thomas but it also might be a red herring as this 'aunt' Mary Thomas has 4 nieces Mabel & Ada Pearson, & Lillian & Mary Williams (all half sisters, brought up in Shanghai) with her. Possible Minnie travelled over with them, their mother Mary Pearson & brother Arthur John, who are both at the port of London hospital in 1891, where Arthur John is a patient. Knowing all this but not getting any further is frustrating beyond belief! I have my gt grandparents marriage certificate but it only confirms what I know. I had hoped her sailing info might of provided more insight, but no luck (so far, as Sue has proved, never give up hope :) ) Vicki > Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:26:34 -0300 > To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com > From: swig@ns.sympatico.ca > Subject: [TSL] Sue's Success story > > Yesterday was a wonderful day ... I apologise ahead if this gets a little long > > I have been searching for the passenger list for my ggrandfather's > immigration to the US for at least 15 years. In the meantime I have been > able to help countless others find their ggrandfather &c. through this > email list and TheShipsList website, but I kept coming up empty for myself > and had become resigned to never being able to find it. > > A couple of years ago, my cousin in Australia who has been a tremendous > family researcher, beginning in the days when we had to do all our > genealogy research with letters, money orders and self-addressed envelopes, > had heard me talk about Ancestry.com so decided to subscribe when she > spotted the links on my website, TheShipsList. What a happy day that > was. She is retired, so has been able to find some fabulous stuff for us, > and checks out the "new" databases regularly. About 6 weeks ago she found > ...Selected U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1966 (Indexed in World > Archives Project)... and popped Charles Tapscott name into it ... > bingo! It said he Naturalized in Portsmouth NH in 1868 and so she sent > for the Certificate and kept it secret until it arrived, two days ago. It > did not add any real new information, however it did say he was from > Devonshire and included his signature (with which we are very familiar), so > that confirmed that he was OUR ggrandfather. > > What puzzled us was that it said he arrived in the US Dec 22 1854 (no port > of arrival indicated). I said that the day-month was so very precise, that > probably it was correct and remembered because it was only 3 days before > Christmas, but I said we couldn't be sure of the year as the actual year is > often the most misremembered part of the date. > While in the US he married in 1860, and raised a family in the New England > states, so I plugged through all the small east coast ports thinking if he > came into Portsmouth in 1854, then those passenger lists from 1853-1856 are > missing, in fact, after I checked all the small ports Maine, New Hampshire, > Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut and there was no 1854 surviving > for any, except Bristol & Warren RI, but December was missing. So then I > spent a long time checking Boston Dec 1854, list by list and was feeling > very resigned to going back to no record surviving, when I decided to try > New York and simply typed in ..... > > Cha* b. 1832 English 1854 > > Imagine my shock and delight, when up he popped, hiding in plain sight, on > the EXACT date 22 Dec 1854 aboard the LADY FRANKLIN from Liverpool. He > was indexed as ..." Charles Sapscot "... and I wondered how I could have > ever missed that before. I thought I had tried every imaginable > combination, but obviously I hadn't. New York passengers lists 1820-1957 > has a red - Updated! notation, which may account for him showing up now, > but probably it had more to do with not thinking he could have arrived that > early ** and the port of arrival was unexpected. > > ** I wasn't planning on mentioning this, but I don't think my > ggrandfather's reputation deserves to be protected anymore. We didn't > think he arrived that early because he had married in Devon on 19 Jul 1853 > and they had a son on 05 Apr 1854 ... they did NOT accompany him. > > Well, if there is any moral to this story, it is that just when you think > you know most of the facts about your ancestor(s), they are sure to > surprise you. ;-} > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Ancestry has a db of UK arriving passengers, but I'm not finding Agnes I am about to try Agnes without last name and did and that didn't get an obvious possible, sorry. Eliz Source Information: Ancestry.com. UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008. Original data: Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Inwards Passenger Lists. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA). Series BT26, 1,472 pieces. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Ida Gurman <igurman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > I have an Agnes  Gurman arriving in Quebec  on the Circassian, 22 ndMay 1893, Agnes was born Hampshire 1876 so was 17yrs,I know She was back in Hampshire [Copythorne] in January 1895 Wher her son Ernest William [Gurman] was born and raised by Grandparents Charles and Emma Gurman, Can some kind lister tell me how I can Find when Agnes returned to England By 1895 , I have tried Ships to Engand but so very many  of them, is this the only way,  Much appreciated, Ida C Gurman , Australia > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Kim, Unfortunately Canada did not begin to archive passenger lists before 1865. You can read about Canadian record sources here... http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm ... and see what resources are available for pre-1865 emigration / immigration There are a few surviving passenger lists, here ... http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/index.htm#canada I see where Abraham says he emigrated in 1851 in the 1901 census, but actual years are often misremebered, so another idea is to not overlook a New York arrival, as many Canada destined persons arrived through that port and then travelled up the Hudson river to Albany, then onto the Eirie canal, for example. I saw them in Sourton, Devon in the 1851 census spelled Daring ... Abraham and Ann are called Visitors and Harriet is Daughter ... curious. I wonder whether the census taker recorded them that way because they were both working! The 1851 UK census was supposed to be taken taken as of the night of 30 March 1851. Best of luck with your search. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:12 AM 2010-06-24 -0600, Kim wrote: >I am looking for information for: >John and Jane DEARING and family, including at least the following children: >Abraham, Ann and Harriet. >They left England in 1851. They are from Devon and went to Ontario. >Would anyone be albe to help me find their ships records? Thanks so very >much. >Kim

I am looking for information for: John and Jane DEARING and family, including at least the following children: Abraham, Ann and Harriet. They left England in 1851. They are from Devon and went to Ontario. Would anyone be albe to help me find their ships records? Thanks so very much. Kim

Thank you everyone who replied to my post about the Princess Royal Regards Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marj Kohli" <marj@uwaterloo.ca> To: "Wendy Evans" <wev70950@bigpond.net.au>; <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Princess Royal 1832 ENG>AUS > Hi, Wendy > > I checked the London Times to see if there were any details on this > group of immigrants. The April 17, 1832 Times reported her sailing > from "Gravesend, April 14 and 15.--...Sailed, ...Princess Royal, for > Hobart Town;" > > Other than that there is no mention of her. > > Regards.. > > Marj > > At 06:45 AM 5/26/2010, Wendy Evans wrote: >>Hello, >> >>I was hoping that somebody could advise me . My ancestor was Jane >>BARKER. According to the arrivals in Tasmania archives, she arrived >>on the Princess Royal in Hobart in 1832. On the list she was >>described as a widow with one child. I am trying to find out if >>there would be any more information available for her. >> >>I would appreciate any help or information. >> >>Regards >>Wendy >>Queensland, Australia >>------------------------------- >>visit TheShipsList Website >>http://www.theshipslist.com/ >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Could this be him, found on Passenger and Immigration Lists:New York, 1820-1850:, the age is wrong but could be a typo. Bill [Broderbund Family Archive #273, Ed. 1, Passenger Lists: New York, Internal Ref. #1.273.1.12047.25] Individual: Nicholas Ford Gender: Male Age: 30 Country of Origin: Ireland Family Number: 3401337 Ship Name: Silas Greenman Port of Departure: Liverpool Port of Arrival: New York Arrival Date: Jun 5, 1850 Nat'l Archives Series No.: M237 Microfilm Number: 89 In a message dated 6/20/2010 2:12:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, otg@csolve.net writes: On 20 Jun 2010 at 15:45, JFW wrote: > > I have pored over every passenger list I could find and have > had no joy. Can't find his naturalization papers either, > though that 1900 census says he was naturalized. It happened > in either NY or MA, and I have really worked to try to find > it. > > Just in case anyone can help: his name is Nicholas FORD, b. > 1827 in Kings County, Ireland; lived in Kinderhook, NY (c. > 1849-1854) and settled in Pittsfield, MA (1855-1902, when he > died). > How about this man? Content Source: The National Archives Publication Number: M1675 Publication Title: Alphabetical Index to Declarations of Intention of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1917-1950 Publisher: NARA National Archives Catalog ID: 575701 National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1824 - 1991 Record Group: 21 State: New York Short Description: NARA M1675. Alphabetical Index to Declarations of Intention of the US District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1917-1950. Immigrant Full Name: Ford, Nicholas J. This is just the index, perhaps you can send for it and see if it's your guy. Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ olivetreegenealogy@rogers.com or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have received so many congratulations and good wishes and shared stories from so many today that I've been totally overwhelmed. It has been another wonderful day. Thank you so much to all .... and I wish you all similar success. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Thank you so much, Lorine. for your response. I did find that reference, but since the title was "Index. . . .1917-1950", and my Nicholas died in 1902, I just assumed it was a different Nicholas. I realize that the NARA Catalog title is "Petitions . . . compiled 1824-1991." Do you know how to reconcile these two different date ranges???? How great it would be if this is my Nicholas' reference. Cheers, Jude On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: > > How about this man? > > Content Source: The National Archives Publication Number: > M1675 > Publication Title: Alphabetical Index to Declarations of > Intention of the U.S. District Court for the Southern > District of New York, 1917-1950 > Publisher: NARA > National Archives Catalog ID: 575701 > National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for > Naturalization, compiled 1824 - 1991 > Record Group: 21 > State: New York > Short Description: NARA M1675. Alphabetical Index to > Declarations of Intention of the US District Court for the > Southern District of New York, 1917-1950. > Immigrant Full Name: Ford, Nicholas J. > > This is just the index, perhaps you can send for it and see > if it's your guy. > > Lorine > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > > * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS > * Olive Tree Genealogy > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ > * Naturalization Records > http://naturalizationrecords.com/ > > > olivetreegenealogy@rogers.com or > olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com > >

On 20 Jun 2010 at 15:45, JFW wrote: > > I have pored over every passenger list I could find and have > had no joy. Can't find his naturalization papers either, > though that 1900 census says he was naturalized. It happened > in either NY or MA, and I have really worked to try to find > it. > > Just in case anyone can help: his name is Nicholas FORD, b. > 1827 in Kings County, Ireland; lived in Kinderhook, NY (c. > 1849-1854) and settled in Pittsfield, MA (1855-1902, when he > died). > How about this man? Content Source: The National Archives Publication Number: M1675 Publication Title: Alphabetical Index to Declarations of Intention of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1917-1950 Publisher: NARA National Archives Catalog ID: 575701 National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1824 - 1991 Record Group: 21 State: New York Short Description: NARA M1675. Alphabetical Index to Declarations of Intention of the US District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1917-1950. Immigrant Full Name: Ford, Nicholas J. This is just the index, perhaps you can send for it and see if it's your guy. Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ olivetreegenealogy@rogers.com or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Great story, Sue. I'm glad you took the time to share it--no apologies needed at all! And thank you so much for all you do on the Ships List; it's monumental! I only wish my similar story could have such a satisfying ending. My gggrandfather on the 1900 census indicates he emigrated to the US from Ireland in 1844 (in a "cattle boat" according to oral family lore). He married here in 1846 (I have that record), BUT his wife's emigration date on the 1900 census is 1852! And their two oldest children are listed in various censuses as being born in 1848 and 1851 in New York!! Go figure!! I have pored over every passenger list I could find and have had no joy. Can't find his naturalization papers either, though that 1900 census says he was naturalized. It happened in either NY or MA, and I have really worked to try to find it. Just in case anyone can help: his name is Nicholas FORD, b. 1827 in Kings County, Ireland; lived in Kinderhook, NY (c. 1849-1854) and settled in Pittsfield, MA (1855-1902, when he died). Cheers to all. Jude On Jun 20, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Sue Swiggum wrote: > Yesterday was a wonderful day ... I apologise ahead if this gets a little long > > I have been searching for the passenger list for my ggrandfather's > immigration to the US for at least 15 years. In the meantime I have been > able to help countless others find their ggrandfather &c. through this > email list and TheShipsList website, but I kept coming up empty for myself > and had become resigned to never being able to find it. >

Yesterday was a wonderful day ... I apologise ahead if this gets a little long I have been searching for the passenger list for my ggrandfather's immigration to the US for at least 15 years. In the meantime I have been able to help countless others find their ggrandfather &c. through this email list and TheShipsList website, but I kept coming up empty for myself and had become resigned to never being able to find it. A couple of years ago, my cousin in Australia who has been a tremendous family researcher, beginning in the days when we had to do all our genealogy research with letters, money orders and self-addressed envelopes, had heard me talk about Ancestry.com so decided to subscribe when she spotted the links on my website, TheShipsList. What a happy day that was. She is retired, so has been able to find some fabulous stuff for us, and checks out the "new" databases regularly. About 6 weeks ago she found ...Selected U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1966 (Indexed in World Archives Project)... and popped Charles Tapscott name into it ... bingo! It said he Naturalized in Portsmouth NH in 1868 and so she sent for the Certificate and kept it secret until it arrived, two days ago. It did not add any real new information, however it did say he was from Devonshire and included his signature (with which we are very familiar), so that confirmed that he was OUR ggrandfather. What puzzled us was that it said he arrived in the US Dec 22 1854 (no port of arrival indicated). I said that the day-month was so very precise, that probably it was correct and remembered because it was only 3 days before Christmas, but I said we couldn't be sure of the year as the actual year is often the most misremembered part of the date. While in the US he married in 1860, and raised a family in the New England states, so I plugged through all the small east coast ports thinking if he came into Portsmouth in 1854, then those passenger lists from 1853-1856 are missing, in fact, after I checked all the small ports Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut and there was no 1854 surviving for any, except Bristol & Warren RI, but December was missing. So then I spent a long time checking Boston Dec 1854, list by list and was feeling very resigned to going back to no record surviving, when I decided to try New York and simply typed in ..... Cha* b. 1832 English 1854 Imagine my shock and delight, when up he popped, hiding in plain sight, on the EXACT date 22 Dec 1854 aboard the LADY FRANKLIN from Liverpool. He was indexed as ..." Charles Sapscot "... and I wondered how I could have ever missed that before. I thought I had tried every imaginable combination, but obviously I hadn't. New York passengers lists 1820-1957 has a red - Updated! notation, which may account for him showing up now, but probably it had more to do with not thinking he could have arrived that early ** and the port of arrival was unexpected. ** I wasn't planning on mentioning this, but I don't think my ggrandfather's reputation deserves to be protected anymore. We didn't think he arrived that early because he had married in Devon on 19 Jul 1853 and they had a son on 05 Apr 1854 ... they did NOT accompany him. Well, if there is any moral to this story, it is that just when you think you know most of the facts about your ancestor(s), they are sure to surprise you. ;-} Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

According to his Petition for Naturalization submitted 24 Aug 1920, James Montone , birth date 10 Aug 1884, departed Naples, Italy on 11 May 1886, arriving in New York 20 May 1886, The ship is listed as "UNKNOWN". I would appreciate information concerning this ship, and the names of relatives who arrived with him. Anita L. Montone McMicken

Hi, does anyone have any information regarding a ship/ferry called "Ballycotton" that operated between Cork, Ireland and England in, at least, 1930? Where did it land in England and were there other ports-of-call? What kind of vessel was it? thankyou regards Jane Kinsman

Ballycotton 1836 Lloyds Register Of Shipping http://www.plimsollshipdata.org/pdffile.php?name=35b0086.pdf And some more http://www.timetableimages.com/maritime/images/clyde2.htm > Mick O Rourke > > www.irishshipwrecks.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Kinsman" <jmkinsman@gmail.com> > To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:01 AM > Subject: [TSL] The Ballycotton - England to Ireland

Hi Jane The Clip website lists two this is the most likly one Name : Ballycotton Registration : Glasgow 1911 Type : Steam Ship Official Number : 129549 http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsnumview.php?OfficialNumber=129549 The Maritime History Archive, show crew records up to 1936 http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=129549 Sorry I don't have any Information on her. Mick O Rourke www.irishshipwrecks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Kinsman" <jmkinsman@gmail.com> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:01 AM Subject: [TSL] The Ballycotton - England to Ireland

Good morning, On “10th 9 mo. 1685” the ship Bristol Merchant arrived in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Among the list of passengers were the family of Major Jasper Farmer and their indentured servants. In "Passengers and Ships" by Sheppard, the notation, "All from Ireland" follows the list of passengers. I am trying to trace 5 passengers, Philip Mayow and Helen, his wife, John Mayow, Elizabeth Mayow, and Martha Mayow. Although not listed together, it is presumed that Philip and Helen are the parents of John, Elizabeth and Martha. Can anyone tell me when and from what port the Bristol Merchant left Ireland? Harry Mayhew

You should keep in mind there might have been a variant spelling in Ireland, especially 'Meagher'. In a message dated 6/17/2010 3:25:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. ship records: Ireland to England (lwsylvstr@aol.com) 2. Re: ship records: Ireland to England (gerald.williams23@ntlworld.com) 3. Re: ship records: Ireland to England (Sue Swiggum) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:47:02 -0400 From: lwsylvstr@aol.com Subject: [TSL] ship records: Ireland to England To: THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCDB79EAA5E89B-77C-C8D@webmail-d030.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello! List Members! I have just started my Irish research. Census records have listed my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Betty) MAHER / MAHAR as being born at sea in 1805. The only thing I am sure of is she was Irish! I was wondering if someone could tell me where to look for ship records (Ireland to England) for 1805. I am thinking Elizabeth and her family came into Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Eliabeth married Aaron HOWARD in 1826 and settled in Ashton under Lyne, lived there, had a large family and are buried there. I have no idea who her parents were at this time! I am told the largest concentration of MAHER/MAHARs are from County Tipperary, Ireland. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester Georgia, USA ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:39:10 +0000 From: gerald.williams23@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: [TSL] ship records: Ireland to England To: lwsylvstr@aol.com, theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com, THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <897910529-1276720752-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1357946680-@b da130.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" At the time, Ireland and England were both part of the UK: there was therefore no reason to keep (or make) passenger lists. Allen Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device -----Original Message----- From: lwsylvstr@aol.com Sender: theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:47:02 To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TSL] ship records: Ireland to England Hello! List Members! I have just started my Irish research. Census records have listed my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Betty) MAHER / MAHAR as being born at sea in 1805. The only thing I am sure of is she was Irish! I was wondering if someone could tell me where to look for ship records (Ireland to England) for 1805. I am thinking Elizabeth and her family came into Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Eliabeth married Aaron HOWARD in 1826 and settled in Ashton under Lyne, lived there, had a large family and are buried there. I have no idea who her parents were at this time! I am told the largest concentration of MAHER/MAHARs are from County Tipperary, Ireland. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester Georgia, USA ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:49:12 -0300 From: Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [TSL] ship records: Ireland to England To: lwsylvstr@aol.com, THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.1.20100616184248.03a22e10@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Lynn, welcome aboard Unfortunately, Passenger lists are not available for ships travelling between ports in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. There were regular vessels ferrying passengers, but no records were archived. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:47 AM 2010-06-16 -0400, lwsylvstr@aol.com wrote: > Hello! List Members! > >I have just started my Irish research. > >Census records have listed my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Betty) >MAHER / MAHAR as being born at sea in 1805. > >The only thing I am sure of is she was Irish! > >I was wondering if someone could tell me where to look for ship records >(Ireland to England) for 1805. I am thinking Elizabeth and her family >came into Liverpool, Lancashire, England. > >Eliabeth married Aaron HOWARD in 1826 and settled in Ashton under Lyne, >lived there, had a large family and are buried there. > >I have no idea who her parents were at this time! I am told the largest >concentration of MAHER/MAHARs are from County Tipperary, Ireland. > >Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I look forward to hearing >from you. > >Regards, >Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester >Georgia, USA ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to THESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 113 ********************************************

At the time, Ireland and England were both part of the UK: there was therefore no reason to keep (or make) passenger lists. Allen Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: lwsylvstr@aol.com Sender: theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:47:02 To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TSL] ship records: Ireland to England Hello! List Members! I have just started my Irish research. Census records have listed my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Betty) MAHER / MAHAR as being born at sea in 1805. The only thing I am sure of is she was Irish! I was wondering if someone could tell me where to look for ship records (Ireland to England) for 1805. I am thinking Elizabeth and her family came into Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Eliabeth married Aaron HOWARD in 1826 and settled in Ashton under Lyne, lived there, had a large family and are buried there. I have no idea who her parents were at this time! I am told the largest concentration of MAHER/MAHARs are from County Tipperary, Ireland. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester Georgia, USA ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lynn, welcome aboard Unfortunately, Passenger lists are not available for ships travelling between ports in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England. There were regular vessels ferrying passengers, but no records were archived. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:47 AM 2010-06-16 -0400, lwsylvstr@aol.com wrote: > Hello! List Members! > >I have just started my Irish research. > >Census records have listed my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Betty) >MAHER / MAHAR as being born at sea in 1805. > >The only thing I am sure of is she was Irish! > >I was wondering if someone could tell me where to look for ship records >(Ireland to England) for 1805. I am thinking Elizabeth and her family >came into Liverpool, Lancashire, England. > >Eliabeth married Aaron HOWARD in 1826 and settled in Ashton under Lyne, >lived there, had a large family and are buried there. > >I have no idea who her parents were at this time! I am told the largest >concentration of MAHER/MAHARs are from County Tipperary, Ireland. > >Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I look forward to hearing >from you. > >Regards, >Lynn Wilkinson Sylvester >Georgia, USA