Hi Sue / Janice, DEMOSTHENES 11,233 tons, triple screw steamer, 517ft x 62.3ft, speed 15 knots, accommodation for 100-1st and 250-3rd class passengers. Built 1911 by Harland & Wolff, Belfast for Aberdeen Line. Maiden voyage started 31st Aug.1911 from London to Capetown, Melbourne and Sydney. 1915 converted to troop transport. 19th Aug.1920 returned to London, Capetown, Sydney and Brisbane service. 2nd Feb.1929 transferred to Liverpool,Capetown, Sydney, Brisbane route. Last sailing 6th Feb.1931 and scrapped. She would only have made the one voyage to Australia in 1911. Photos at http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20D/slides/Demosthenes-01.html Use right arrow at top for further photos. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com>; "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? > > Hi Sue, > > Thank you very much for all this work you have put into my plea for help. > As you say, it gets more confusing, however 1911 does pop up all the time > and that was the year the Demosthenes was launched. Barbara's birthday > was > 15th May 1910, father Richard was born Dec Quarter 1883 and his wife > Jessie > was born Sept Quarter 1876. I must have missed them on the Victorian > Website. > > A son was born either in Qld or NSW after the family arrived here, he was > Jack R HUDSON. However, Jack died in Sydney in 1924, registered in > Kogarah, > he would have been around 10 to 13 years old at the time of his death. I > have only been working on this family for my friend for the past three > days > and the information I am putting together, she had no knowledge of. As she > has told me, she never listed to the grandparents stories as she was too > young, and her mother was too young to know about life in England or > anything about the voyage and the ship they arrived on. > > Regards, > Janice > Belrose - Sydney > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> > To: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>; > <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? > > >> Hi Janice, >> >> The Ancestry index says (don't know why it says Victoria) >> >> Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923 >> about Miss B Hudson >> Name: Miss B Hudson >> Estimated birth year: abt 1911 >> Age: 9 Months >> Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1911 >> Arrival Port: Brisbane, Australia >> Departure Port: London >> Ship: Demosthenes >> Nationality: English >> >> This looks like the right Barbara but the age doesn't make sense because >> it would take so long for a Feb 1911 London departure to arrive in >> Brisbane. ..... confusing >> >> Findmypast has them listed twice, once for London and once for Plymouth >> departure, but only Brisbane destination. (I don't have a sub so I can't >> check the details) >> >> HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane >> HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 Plymouth Australia >> Brisbane >> HUDSON J 1876 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane >> HUDSON J Unknown F 1911 Plymouth Australia >> Brisbane >> HUDSON R 1883 M 1911 London Australia Brisbane >> HUDSON R Unknown M 1911 Plymouth Australia >> Brisbane >> >> Barbara on FreeBMD >> >> Births Jun 1910 >> HUDSON Barbara Irene Ormskirk 8b 906 >> >> Being born in the June quarter 1910 would have her sailing in Feb 1911 in >> my mind, but the ship appears to have arrived at Melbourne, 9th October >> 1911, then to Sydney, then on to Brisbane. 950 passengers with >> provisions >> for a voyage taking 54 to 65 days. >> >> Maybe someone can find the London sailing dates in newspaper reports. I >> can't comment on the the age ... which _should_ be at the date of sailing >> ... has me wondering if she was 9 months old at the time of booking the >> passage ... just a thought. With adults a year +/- wouldn't be too much >> of a concern, but with an infant it can cause a lot of confusion. >> >> btw. the Demosthenes belonged to (new ship in 1911) >> >> Aberdeen Line / Aberdeen & Commonwealth Lines >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/aberdeen.html >> >> Maybe Ted can dig up her info which would include her maiden voyage which >> will probably nail down the voyage ... one website says five voyages to >> Australia in 1911 ... I find that hard to credit. >> >> Sue >> -- >> TheShipsList Website >> http://www.theshipslist.com/ >> >> At 09:22 AM 2010-07-17 +1000, Janice Doughty wrote: >>>Good morning Listers, >>> >>>I have a mystery I hope SKS can help me solve. >>> > > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3008 - Release Date: 07/15/10 18:35:00

>From The Argus (Melbourne), 23 February 1880 - FOR LONDON DIRECT-The well-known and favourite iron clipper ship MARPESIA, 1443 tons, AA1 at Lloyd's, T. STOREY, Commander, Now lying at the Sandridge Railway Pier. As large engagements of cargo have been made for this fine ship, shippers are requested to make early applications for disengaged space. J. H. WHITE and Co., 49 William-street.

Hi Janice, The Ancestry index says (don't know why it says Victoria) Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 about Miss B Hudson Name: Miss B Hudson Estimated birth year: abt 1911 Age: 9 Months Arrival Date: 9 Oct 1911 Arrival Port: Brisbane, Australia Departure Port: London Ship: Demosthenes Nationality: English This looks like the right Barbara but the age doesn't make sense because it would take so long for a Feb 1911 London departure to arrive in Brisbane. ..... confusing Findmypast has them listed twice, once for London and once for Plymouth departure, but only Brisbane destination. (I don't have a sub so I can't check the details) HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane HUDSON B 1911 F 1911 Plymouth Australia Brisbane HUDSON J 1876 F 1911 London Australia Brisbane HUDSON J Unknown F 1911 Plymouth Australia Brisbane HUDSON R 1883 M 1911 London Australia Brisbane HUDSON R Unknown M 1911 Plymouth Australia Brisbane Barbara on FreeBMD Births Jun 1910 HUDSON Barbara Irene Ormskirk 8b 906 Being born in the June quarter 1910 would have her sailing in Feb 1911 in my mind, but the ship appears to have arrived at Melbourne, 9th October 1911, then to Sydney, then on to Brisbane. 950 passengers with provisions for a voyage taking 54 to 65 days. Maybe someone can find the London sailing dates in newspaper reports. I can't comment on the the age ... which _should_ be at the date of sailing ... has me wondering if she was 9 months old at the time of booking the passage ... just a thought. With adults a year +/- wouldn't be too much of a concern, but with an infant it can cause a lot of confusion. btw. the Demosthenes belonged to (new ship in 1911) Aberdeen Line / Aberdeen & Commonwealth Lines http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/aberdeen.html Maybe Ted can dig up her info which would include her maiden voyage which will probably nail down the voyage ... one website says five voyages to Australia in 1911 ... I find that hard to credit. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 09:22 AM 2010-07-17 +1000, Janice Doughty wrote: >Good morning Listers, > >I have a mystery I hope SKS can help me solve. > >I am assisting a friend to research her mother's side of the family. She >told me her grandparents Richard and Jessie HUDSON, immigrated Down Under >with her mother Barbara Irene HUDSON early in 1900. Her mother was born >on 15th May 1910 in Southport in Lancashire. I searched the immigration >Website records and found thier arrival in Australia on the Queensland >website on the Card Index to Personal Files for Nominated Immigrants, >1908-1922:- > >Arrival in Brisbane:- >HUDSON Barbara Irene 9m 1911 "Demosthenes" Father HUDSON Richard >HUDSON Jessie 35 1911 "Demosthenes" HUDSON Richard >HUDSON Richard 28 1911 "Demosthenes" HUDSON Richard. > >Is the year 1911, the year the "Demosthenes" sailed from England, or the >year she arrived in Brisbane? No matter how many Googles I carry out, I >cannot find an actual date of her arrival. I will explain my >dilemma. Barbara Irene HUDSON was either 9 months old when she sailed on >the "Demosthenes" from England with her parents, or 9 months old when she >arrived. So the ship either sailed in February 1911 or arrived in >Australia in February 1911, I can see the "Demosthenes" arrived maybe a >couple of times Down Under in 1911, however I would like to find the >actual voyage the HUDSON family was one. I do hope someone can help >me. Thank you > >Regards, >Janice >Belrose - Sydney

>From The Australian & New Zealand Gazette, 15 November 1879 - LIST OF PASSENGERS. DEPARTURES. Per Messrs. T. Marwood & Co.'s "Marpesia" (Captain Storey), from Liverpool November 1.--For Melbourne (consigned to Messrs. Bright Bros. & Co.) : Saloon--J. McGuffie Fraser, John Davis, Rev. John Spaven, Mrs. Spaven, and John Spaven. Steerage--Mrs. A. McKinnon, Eliza A. McKinnon, Henry Roberts, Miss Bridget Hanrahan, I. M. Lancaster, Mrs. Lancaster, Louisa Lancaster, Emma Lancaster, Gertrude Lancaster, John H. Snowden, Daniel Ahern, Johanna Ahern, Helena Ahern, Mary Ahern, Ellen Ahern, Ann Ahern, Margaret Ahern, Hannah Ahern, Lizzie Ahern, Sarah Ahern, Kate Ahern, William Hughes, John W. Butler, Mrs. E. Waring, Robert Prichard, Gordon F. Dickson, William Fox, Mrs. Barbara Boyle, Eliza Boyle, Fanny Boyle, Robert Boyle, and Ellen Gorman. ------------------------------------------------ Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Baker" <mabaker55@optusnet.com.au> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 131 hi Barb > Would any kind person know about the ship Earl Russell which left London > in > 1864 for Queensland, Australia, with migrants? It arrived on 10 August > 1864, and did not appear to make another voyage. Apparently there was a > "crew disturbance" during this voyage. > Check in http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home > My Gr.grandfather Garrett Stack aged 22yrs was a passenger on this ship > as > was another man, Jarrett Stack aged 26. I wonder if they were related? and in https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=marriages See if same parents names when they died Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Booth" <peebooth@mac.com> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: [TSL] Deaths At Sea > Can anyone on the list know how to go about researching deaths at sea. > It may have been a voyage from Melbourne to New Zealand in the 1890's. > I know the passengers names but nothing else. > > Hi Paul Try http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home and http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

Would any kind person know about the ship Earl Russell which left London in 1864 for Queensland, Australia, with migrants? It arrived on 10 August 1864, and did not appear to make another voyage. Apparently there was a "crew disturbance" during this voyage. My Gr.grandfather Garrett Stack aged 22yrs was a passenger on this ship as was another man, Jarrett Stack aged 26. I wonder if they were related? Many thanks for any assistance. Barbara

Can anyone on the list know how to go about researching deaths at sea. It may have been a voyage from Melbourne to New Zealand in the 1890's. I know the passengers names but nothing else. Thanks paul On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:01 PM, theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. *new* for TheShipsList website (Sue Swiggum) > 2. "The Water Witch" (Betty) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:22:43 -0300 > From: Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> > Subject: [TSL] *new* for TheShipsList website > To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.1.20100714145534.02374180@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > *new* for TheShipsList website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on > their own > page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows > --------------> > <--------------- > > At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " > previous > month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth > between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three > months of > *new* page links on the Home page. New for July 2010 is . . . > > o Fleets: > o Compagnie Havraise Peninsulaire > o Northland Navigation Company, British Columbia, Canada > o Canadian Steamship Company, Wales & Quebec > > One big Fleet with passenger service and two smaller ones, the last > one > with a pretty short history. > > o Immigration Reports: > o Assisted Passage from United Kingdom to South Australia, > 1862 > > This report shows the changes for qualification for Assisted > Passage ; Free > Passage ; Remission Certificate, to South Australia. > > o Passengers: > o John Molson - 10th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 12th July > 1832 > o John Molson - 11th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 16th July > 1832 > o John Molson - 12th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 20th July > 1832 > o ... > o barque Alice Brooks, from Melbourne, to Port Adelaide 7th > December 1855 ... with passengers, barque Bielefeldt, from Hamburg, to > Melbourne 25th November 1855 .. plus two families, barque Asa > Sawyer, from > Hamburg, to Melbourne 26th November 1855 > o barque Steinwaerder, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 19th > December 1855 > > Three more JOHN MOLSON steamboat passenger lists for 1832. There > are still > a lot of new settlers, even so far into July. Some more destined > for the > Canada Company. There are no Emigration Society tickets for the > settlers > on these three trips. > > Two more German passenger lists to South Australia for 1855. The > Steinwaerder was a regular emigrant vessel to South Australia. The > Alice > Brooks is something completely different ... the passengers from the > barque > Bielefeldt and the barque Asa Sawyer, had embarked in Hamburg and > sailed to > Melbourne, arriving a day apart. A few days later most of them sailed > together on the barque Alice Brooks, to Adelaide. > > Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any > other list > to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to > those > list members (in other words, on-topic). > > Enjoy > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:09:53 -0400 > From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > Subject: [TSL] "The Water Witch" > To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <564CAD83A3FE49BA800BE49CCA45B182@betty94bfd0f73> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello, > > I visited thrift shops and second-hand shops all the time, and I was > in one > today. A small item I found was a ceramic-tile which had a > drawing of a > "clipper ship" on it, and the name at the bottom of the tile said, > "The > Water Witch." > > I just went on-line to see what I could find and there seems to have > been > different kinds of ships with that name: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Water_Witch_(1851) > > http://www.portcolumbus.org/exhibits/waterwitch_02_history.php > > http://www.shipwreckworld.com/articles/the-water-witch-of-lake-champlain > > FYI sites: > > http://www.oldandsold.com/articles25/cooper-10.shtml > > http://civilwar.bluegrass.net/battles-campaigns/1864/640603.html > > (more sites mention the name) > > Just an FYI for you. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > P.S. I've been corresponding with the Help Desk about a List I > wish to > start up, and they told me about a List I did not know about. > Perhaps > people on this List already know about it: > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Immigration/SHIPS_FROM_ENGLAND.html > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 131 > ********************************************

Barbara From the London Times of March 18, 1864 comes this ad: FOR MORETON BAY, Queensland, under engage- ment to H.M. Emigration Commissioners ___ shipping day 10th April, the magnificent, fast-sailing ship EARL RUSSELL, A 1 at Lloyd's, 1,042 tons register; in the East India Docks. For terms of freight apply to John Lidgett and Sons, 9, Billiter-street. Then on May 2, 1864 comes this item: EMIGRATION FROM PLYMOUTH.--The Earl Russell, 1,042 tons, Captain Bolt, belonging to Messrs. John Lidgett and Sons, of London, arrived at Plymouth April 14, and sailed on the 23d for Queensland, with Government emi- grants, consisting of 26 married men, 38 married women, 150 single men, 82 single women, 60 children, and 9 in- fants, being 365 souls, equal to 326 statute adults. This ship was chartered by Her Majesty's Emigration Commis- sioners. Mr. Johnson is surgeon superintendent; Miss Chapman, matron; and Mr. Chapman, schoolmaster. The Earl Russell is fitted with Graveley's sen-water distill- ing and cooking apparatus, which not only makes suffi- cient fresh water for every soul on board, but performs all the cooking and bread baking, and acts as a powerful steam fire engine, lifts the anchor with great ease, works the ship's pumps, oeefs the topstails, takes in and out all the cargo, and, in short, performs most of the heavy work. The Art Union, another of Messrs. Lidgett's fleet, 748 tons, Captain Morison, is to em- bark Government emigrants here on the 9th for Adelaide. The Sussex, 959 tons, Captain R. Ridgers, belonging to Messrs. Money Wigram and Sons, of Blackwall, arrived on the 24th, and sailed on the 27th with passengers for Mel- bourne. Messrs. Green's ship, the Monarch, Captain Dea con, 1,282 tons, will call here on the 11th, to embark pas- sengers for Melbourne; and the Black Ball ship Young Australia, 766 tons, Captain Charles Gray, will call about the 12th to embark passengers for Queensland. Regards.. Marj At 05:24 AM 7/15/2010, Barb Baker wrote: >Would any kind person know about the ship Earl Russell which left London in >1864 for Queensland, Australia, with migrants? It arrived on 10 August >1864, and did not appear to make another voyage. Apparently there was a >"crew disturbance" during this voyage. > >My Gr.grandfather Garrett Stack aged 22yrs was a passenger on this ship as >was another man, Jarrett Stack aged 26. I wonder if they were related? > >Many thanks for any assistance. > > >Barbara > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul, See http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKDeathsAtSea.html These records apply to passengers as well as seamen. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Booth" <peebooth@mac.com> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: [TSL] Deaths At Sea > > Can anyone on the list know how to go about researching deaths at sea. > It may have been a voyage from Melbourne to New Zealand in the 1890's. > I know the passengers names but nothing else. > > Thanks > > paul > >

Hello, I visited thrift shops and second-hand shops all the time, and I was in one today. A small item I found was a ceramic-tile which had a drawing of a "clipper ship" on it, and the name at the bottom of the tile said, "The Water Witch." I just went on-line to see what I could find and there seems to have been different kinds of ships with that name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Water_Witch_(1851) http://www.portcolumbus.org/exhibits/waterwitch_02_history.php http://www.shipwreckworld.com/articles/the-water-witch-of-lake-champlain FYI sites: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles25/cooper-10.shtml http://civilwar.bluegrass.net/battles-campaigns/1864/640603.html (more sites mention the name) Just an FYI for you. Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. I've been corresponding with the Help Desk about a List I wish to start up, and they told me about a List I did not know about. Perhaps people on this List already know about it: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Immigration/SHIPS_FROM_ENGLAND.html

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for July 2010 is . . . o Fleets: o Compagnie Havraise Peninsulaire o Northland Navigation Company, British Columbia, Canada o Canadian Steamship Company, Wales & Quebec One big Fleet with passenger service and two smaller ones, the last one with a pretty short history. o Immigration Reports: o Assisted Passage from United Kingdom to South Australia, 1862 This report shows the changes for qualification for Assisted Passage ; Free Passage ; Remission Certificate, to South Australia. o Passengers: o John Molson - 10th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 12th July 1832 o John Molson - 11th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 16th July 1832 o John Molson - 12th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 20th July 1832 o ... o barque Alice Brooks, from Melbourne, to Port Adelaide 7th December 1855 ... with passengers, barque Bielefeldt, from Hamburg, to Melbourne 25th November 1855 .. plus two families, barque Asa Sawyer, from Hamburg, to Melbourne 26th November 1855 o barque Steinwaerder, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 19th December 1855 Three more JOHN MOLSON steamboat passenger lists for 1832. There are still a lot of new settlers, even so far into July. Some more destined for the Canada Company. There are no Emigration Society tickets for the settlers on these three trips. Two more German passenger lists to South Australia for 1855. The Steinwaerder was a regular emigrant vessel to South Australia. The Alice Brooks is something completely different ... the passengers from the barque Bielefeldt and the barque Asa Sawyer, had embarked in Hamburg and sailed to Melbourne, arriving a day apart. A few days later most of them sailed together on the barque Alice Brooks, to Adelaide. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I would like to get a copy of a photo of the ship EMIGRANT should on exist. My searches to date have not turned up one. I am led to understand that there two vessels by the name Emigrant. The one I am interested in is the ship built in New Brunswick in 1845. She was a ship of 753 tons and was registered in Liverpool. She made a journey to Moreton Bay, Queensland, Australia in 1850 and another to Port Phillip (Melbourne), Victoria, Australia in 1852. Her captain on this voyage was W H Kemp. The other Emigrant was a barque of 379 tons built in Bremen in 1846. There is a picture of her to be found on the internet but she is NOT the vessel I am interested in. Any assistance would be appreciated. With thanks Ian

WELL DONE AND CONGRATULATIONS Jean Tuckey New Zealand

Kudos to TheShipsList. Beverly Mack Zanon Charter Member - ISTG _http://www.immigrantships.net_ (http://www.immigrantships.net) In a message dated 7/10/2010 2:24:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com writes: TheShipsList website has been chosen as one of the "101 Best Web Sites"

Hello Sue very good work. You deserve the award. Dennis Baer On 7/10/2010 3:02 AM, theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. new award for TheShipsList (Sue Swiggum) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:57:58 -0300 > From: Sue Swiggum<swig@ns.sympatico.ca> > Subject: [TSL] new award for TheShipsList > To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<5.1.1.6.1.20100709085039.02290820@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Some shamless self promotion. . . . > > I am thrilled to let you know that once again, TheShipsList website has > been chosen as one of the "101 Best Web Sites" which is to be published in > the September 2010 issue of Family Tree Magazine . . . it goes on sale on > July 20th. > This the 6th time we have received the award, so I guess all the hard work > doesn't go unnoticed. :-} > > http://www.theshipslist.com/awards.htm > > Sue >

Some shamless self promotion. . . . I am thrilled to let you know that once again, TheShipsList website has been chosen as one of the "101 Best Web Sites" which is to be published in the September 2010 issue of Family Tree Magazine . . . it goes on sale on July 20th. This the 6th time we have received the award, so I guess all the hard work doesn't go unnoticed. :-} http://www.theshipslist.com/awards.htm Sue --

Hi, Would anyone on this list have this book? I tried searching on WorldCat and it is not available. Thanks, Bobbi

My earliest arriving ancestor in North America apparently was William McMechen, born 1688 in Karnmoney (or Carnmoney), Antrim, Ireland. His father was James McMechen (1660-?) who remained in Ireland. William apparently emigrated from Ireland to Mill Creek, New Castle, Delaware. His sons Joseph b. 1695, James b. 1704 and Andrew b. 1706 apparently accompanied him. A son, William was born 1715 in Delaware, so the family had to have arrived there prior to 1715, perhaps as early as 1710. William Sr. and Andrew were buying and selling land in Delaware by 1726. >From New Castle, Delaware, branches of the family spread directly to Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, and across the southern States to Texas and beyond. The senior William was married to Jannet Claypoole (1676-1734). I have the date of marriage as 1704, which, if true, means her birth place was not Delaware, as recorded in the Ancestry.com Family Trees I have seen, and she may have accompanied him from Ireland. Another discrepancy is that the "son" Joseph, was born in 1695, prior to that marriage date, at a time when Jannet would have been 19 years old and the senior William only 7 years old if his birth date is correct. Perhaps Joseph was a brother, not a son? I would be curious to know in what ship or ships members of this family may have arrived in Delaware from Ireland. The names are William, Joseph, James, and Andrew McMechen, and possibly Jannet Claypoole McMechen This family surname has been spelled variously as McMechen, McMakin, McMickin, McMicken, McMeekin, McMican, McMackin, Makin et. al. over the past several hundred years. William H. McMicken

On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 iretonhenry@aol.com wrote: > where if any where can i trace the drowning of Patrick or Peter coy le > or Kyle in the west Indies in 1873 See http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Belfast/1873/APR.html for the loss of the Atlantic. There is a Coyle listed among the steerage passengers saved, but later it is reported that forty additional bodies had been recovered. The location, however, is not in the West Indies, but apparently off Nova Scotia. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Irish Maritime News Acton, Mass. | http://immigrantships.net/newsarticles/newsarticles.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -