Jean-Louis From the London Times of 1838 in the Ship News column: Jan 2, 1838 the Orpheus, for New York, sailed from Liverpool. She appears many times after this sailing back and forth to NY. In the Aug 8, 1838 column under "Canadian And United States Papers" it says the Orpheus was a packet-ship, Captain Bailey, in charge and it took her "remarkable quick passage of 16 days" from NY to Liverpool. Maybe this is the trip you are asking about. Regards.. Marj At 06:18 AM 8/22/2010, Araignon wrote: >Hello Listers >I search informations about a ship called Orpheus sailing from New York in >July 1838 to England (Liverpool) > >Can somebody help me ? > >Best regards >Jean-Louis >http://www.philateliemarine.fr/ > > >PS about the post of 2 august "Passenger list for ship arriving in New >Orleans in 1838" I may correct some words >For instance "20 Darimon Arnaud Eugine ?? ?ij?itier >Bordeaun" will become >"20 Darimon Arnaud Eugène bijoutier Bordeaux" (bijoutier >means jeweller) >Cutt?ateur = cultivateur (farmer) >?onnelier = tonnelier (cooper) >Perrugier = perruquier (wigmaker) >Lingire = lingère (linen maid) >Colswrteur = colporteur (peddler) >Harloger = horloger (watch and clock assembler) >Re????leur = remouleur (grinder) >Nigaciant = négociant (trader or merchant) >Menuiseir = menuisier (carpenter) > >Hope this helps > > > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers I search informations about a ship called Orpheus sailing from New York in July 1838 to England (Liverpool) Can somebody help me ? Best regards Jean-Louis http://www.philateliemarine.fr/ PS about the post of 2 august "Passenger list for ship arriving in New Orleans in 1838" I may correct some words For instance "20 Darimon Arnaud Eugine ?? ?ij?itier Bordeaun" will become "20 Darimon Arnaud Eugène bijoutier Bordeaux" (bijoutier means jeweller) Cutt?ateur = cultivateur (farmer) ?onnelier = tonnelier (cooper) Perrugier = perruquier (wigmaker) Lingire = lingère (linen maid) Colswrteur = colporteur (peddler) Harloger = horloger (watch and clock assembler) Re????leur = remouleur (grinder) Nigaciant = négociant (trader or merchant) Menuiseir = menuisier (carpenter) Hope this helps

My father, Max Dym, born in Galicia, Austria on May 3, 1899, one of nine children of Hirsch Dym and Sabina Schnee, emigrated to Buenos Aies, Argentina, in August 1925. I am looking for anyone who may know the name of the ship he sailed on, and if there are any relatives in the United States or other parts of the world who can provide more information. I would truly appreciate your help. Teresa Dym

Looking for passengers into New Zealand of surname Brackebush. (surname of German descent). August Heinrich Johann Brackebush (German) married Edith Mary (Australian). Children born in New Zealand named August Hughes born 1901 Eileen Audrey born 22/1/1908 Thanks Michelle, Whakatane

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for August 2010 is . . . o Passengers: o John Molson - 16th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 21st August 1832 o John Molson - 17th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 27th August 1832 o John Molson - 18th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 1st September 1832 o John Molson - 19th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 8th September 1832 o ... o barque August, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 17th August 1856 o ship Adele, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 14th September 1856 .. Melbourne 11th October 1856 o barque Heinrich, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 18th September 1856 o brig Vesta, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 29th November 1856 Four more JOHN MOLSON steamboat passenger lists for 1832. We still see Emigration Society tickets for some of the settlers on these three trips. I forgot to mention last month that the 15th trip on August 7th 1832, included ... 30-35 Colonel By & family £6/9/2 Colonel By and family first arrived in 1826, aboard the barque Endeavour. He superintended the building of the canal to connect Kingston on Lake Ontario, up the Rideau to the join the settlement near the Chaudière falls of the Ottawa River. That settlement became known as "Bytown." In 1847 it was incorporated as a Town, and on December 18th 1854, was renamed Ottawa. Ottawa was selected as the Federal Capital of Canada by Queen Victoria in 1857. .... I've been enjoying meeting some of these historic persons as I transcribe these lists. These are the last four German passenger lists to South Australia for 1856. These are great lists, compiled from a vast variety of sources including original arrival lists, newspapers, Biographical index SA 1836-1885, the Brandenburg index, the Graeme Moad index and the Hamburg departure lists, from Ancestry.com. I noticed a Seppelt family on the AUGUST. Not sure if they are related to the famous Seppelt family who arrived on the EMMY in 1850. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Subject: Prussia>Detroit>July 1854 Wilhelm (William) GROSSE Age 31, born 27 May 1823, born Prussia, entered Port of Detroit July 1854, Settled in Hustisford, Dodge Co., WI. I do not know of any others travelling/arriving with Wilhelm. Information is from his Naturalization first papers filed Sept 1856 and final papers filed in Sept. 1860, both in Hustisford, Dodge Co., WI.

Hi Can someone please point me in the direction where I can find a photo of "THE HOPE" steamer. see some details of the steamer below - Thanks Ships and South Africa: a maritime chronicle of <http://books.google.com/books?id=5CIZAAAAIAAJ&q=first+steamer+cape+town +%22st+francis%22+%22The+Hope%22&dq=first+steamer+cape+town+%22st+franci s%22+%22The+Hope%22&hl=en&ei=JahnTP2_CtO6jAfF36DVBA&sa=X&oi=book_result& ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ> the Cape <http://books.google.com/books?id=5CIZAAAAIAAJ&q=first+steamer+cape+town +%22st+francis%22+%22The+Hope%22&dq=first+steamer+cape+town+%22st+franci s%22+%22The+Hope%22&hl=en&ei=JahnTP2_CtO6jAfF36DVBA&sa=X&oi=book_result& ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ> , with ... <http://books.google.com/books?id=5CIZAAAAIAAJ&q=first+steamer+cape+town +%22st+francis%22+%22The+Hope%22&dq=first+steamer+cape+town+%22st+franci s%22+%22The+Hope%22&hl=en&ei=JahnTP2_CtO6jAfF36DVBA&sa=X&oi=book_result& ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ> <http://books.google.com/books?id=5CIZAAAAIAAJ&q=first+steamer+cape+town +%22st+francis%22+%22The+Hope%22&dq=first+steamer+cape+town+%22st+franci s%22+%22The+Hope%22&hl=en&ei=JahnTP2_CtO6jAfF36DVBA&sa=X&oi=book_result& ct=book-thumbnail&resnum=2&ved=0CDkQ6wEwAQ> Marischal Murray <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tbo=p&tbs=bks:1&q=inauthor: %22Marischal+Murray%22&ei=JahnTP2_CtO6jAfF36DVBA&ved=0CDgQ9Ag> - 1933 - 360 pages - Snippet view Auspiciously named Hope, this little steamer, the first to ply on the coast of South Africa, arrived at Capetown on December 8th, 1838, ... On the afternoon of March 10th, 1840, she ran ashore in a fog, 10 miles west of Cape St. Francis ... *Cape coasting steamers *In 1831 the little ship Sophia Jane arrived at the Cape. Her captain was prepared to sell her to anyone at the Cape who wanted to use her in the coasting trade. As the price he wanted was not forthcoming the Sophia Jane went on to Australia, the first steamer to reach that continent, and traded successfully along the Australian coast for many years. *Five years later, however, a company was formed in Cape Town: The Cape of Good Hope Steam Navigation Company. A steamer, the Hope, was built on the Clyde for this new company. A ship of 194 tons and 100 horse-power, she was able to carry 115 tons of cargo and 38 passengers. She was South Africa's first coasting steamer. She plied regularly between Cape Town and Port Elizabeth for some years. After she had been wrecked on Cape St. Francis in 1840, her owners ordered that the Phoenix, of 405 tons, should replace her. For ten years between 1842 and 1852 she ran between Cape Town and Port Elizabeth, with calls at Mossel Bay and sometimes Plettenberg Bay. But in 1852, when larger and faster coasters were put into service, the Phoenix was sold to an Australian firm. Walter Veldsman Guildford Surrey GU2 7XY UK email walter.veldsman@boc.com <mailto:walter.veldsman@boc.com>

I am looking for a BLYTH and MARY ANN MORTER AND their FAMILY. Here is what I know: Extract from Vestry Meeting March 27 1851, North Walsham, Norfolk, England adjourned At a meeting held pursuant the same day March 27 it was agreed to assist in Emigrating to New York the following families Stephen Cutting, his Wife & Family Christmas Watts, his Wife & Family James Brakenbury, his Wife & Family Mary Ann Morter & her Family Emigration } Copy of Resolution } Raising Money } Extract from next page - same date It was resolved That the Churchwardens and Overseers shall and they are hereby directed to raise the sum of £ 120 as a Fund for defraying the Expenses of the Emigration of Poor Persons having settlements in this Parish and being willing to emigrate to be paid out of the Rates raised or to be raised for the Relief of the Poor in this Parish and to be applied under such rules, Orders and Regulations, as the Poor Law Commissioners shall on their behalf direct. **************************************************************************** *********************************** 1851 March 20th. At a meeting to consider raising or borrowing money for the emigration of the poor. Meeting adjourned to Thursday 27th instant at 11 o'clock. R.S.Baker, Chairman. March 27th. At a Vestry to choose Parish officers. John Wortley & R.S.Baker, Churchwardens. Messrs LeNeve, Thomas Burton, Robert Martin & Clipperton, Overseers. Messrs W.Sharpe & Charles Cubitt, Surveyors. John Davidson, Samuel Bailey, Thomas Self Buck & Edward Bailey, Constables. Messrs R.C.Lacey & Drake Sewell, Assessors & Collectors. Thomas Dry, Chairman. At the adjourned meeting to assist emigration of - Stephen Cutting, wife & Family, Christmas Watts ditto, James Brackenbury ditto, Mary Ann Morter & her family. Resolved to raise the sum of £120 as a fund for defraying the expenses of the emigration of Poor persons having settlements in this Parish and being willing to emigrate to be paid out of the Rates raised or to be raised for the relief of the poor in this parish and to be applied under such Rate orders and regulations as the Poor Law Commissioners shall on that behalf direct. signed by Thomas Dry, Minister, the Churchwardens and two Overseers, and witnessed by Mr. M.J. Shepheard. Blyth and Mary Ann Morter & family were in Ross County, OHIO, USA in December 1851 according to a church baptism record and Stephen Cutting & family were in the Canadian (January 1852) census in Ontario, Elgin county, Canada. Seems they came between March - December 1851? Blyth, 33, mason/stone cutter, Mary Ann Morter, 31, dressmaker, sons Alfred 6, William 9, Thomas 7, and daughters Elizabeth 4, and Emily 2. I have been unable to locate the ship or their names on a passenger list. Thank you so much. Jack Morter

James Sexton was on this ship. He was bonded to Thomas Pennington. I am trying to find ship and port of departure in Ireland.

Pam Not sure if there is more than one vessel by this name but here is what I found in the London Times. Oct 28, 1861 under "The Bombay Mail" it says the Hope, Rhone and Egyptian, from Liverpool, had arrived at Gibraltar. Oct 29, 1861 under the same heading it says: "22d, [Oct 22] the Hope, Captain C. Baker, 12 days from Liverpool and 7 from Holyhead, for Malta and Alexandria..." I checked the sailings on the 8-12 of Oct in the Ship News but did not see the sailing of this vessel. Regards.. Marj At 09:27 PM 8/11/2010, PMR wrote: >Hello Listers > > Late in 1861, Agnes Fin(d)lay McCALL (née SMITH) left the UK >(most likely Scotland) on the "Hope" bound for Victoria, Australia where it >arrived in January 1862, with Agnes (31), Agnes jnr (10), Alex (7), Jessey >(5) and Eliza (3) on board - to join John McCall, their husband and father, >who had arrived in 1860 on the "Empire of Peace". > > Is anyone able to give me the date and port of departure please? >And anything about the vessel - maybe a picture? > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Hello Pam, The HOPE was a 1,104 ton wooden hulled sailing ship, 185ft x 36ft x 22.8ft, built by P. Valin, Quebec as the BEE in 1856. 1860 sold to Black Ball Line and renamed HOPE. Between 1860 and 1863 she sailed between Liverpool and Melbourne and in 1864 was offered for sale at Calcutta. Not sold to Glasgow owners until Jan.1867. Sorry but cannot find a photo. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au> To: "MARINERS Mailing List" <Mariners-L@rootsweb.com>; "THE SHIPS LIST" <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:27 AM Subject: [MAR] Voyage of the "Hope" UK to Australia 1861-62 Hello Listers Late in 1861, Agnes Fin(d)lay McCALL (née SMITH) left the UK (most likely Scotland) on the "Hope" bound for Victoria, Australia where it arrived in January 1862, with Agnes (31), Agnes jnr (10), Alex (7), Jessey (5) and Eliza (3) on board - to join John McCall, their husband and father, who had arrived in 1860 on the "Empire of Peace". Is anyone able to give me the date and port of departure please? And anything about the vessel - maybe a picture? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MARINERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3063 - Release Date: 08/10/10 18:34:00

Hello Listers Late in 1861, Agnes Fin(d)lay McCALL (née SMITH) left the UK (most likely Scotland) on the "Hope" bound for Victoria, Australia where it arrived in January 1862, with Agnes (31), Agnes jnr (10), Alex (7), Jessey (5) and Eliza (3) on board - to join John McCall, their husband and father, who had arrived in 1860 on the "Empire of Peace". Is anyone able to give me the date and port of departure please? And anything about the vessel - maybe a picture? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Many thanks to all those who responded to my question. I also called the Ellis Island Archival Library and was told that 1921 was a rather chaotic year. The U.S. Army was leaving the island (after using part of it for their soldiers - didn't know about that)... The government was bringing various anarchists and Commies to the island to stand trial Plus there was an increase in immigrants because of refugees flooding the country after the war. Regards, Jim ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c6212a89c9665c908st06vuc

I'm looking for a John Charlesworth from Yorkshire who came to the US about 1840-1842, who would have been about 25 years old when he first sailed. He married Mary Hoadley, another Yorkshire native, in Milwaukee and then returned to England after about 1846. I have Mary's arrival with her family in May 1842 on the ship "Hottenguer", but cannot find John Charlesworth's arrival, or the Charlesworth family's return voyage with their two little American born daughters. Another researcher spotted a John Charles on the ship "Brunswick", arriving in New York 16 May 1842, but I don't have an image of this manifest, so I don't know if it's a good possible "hit" or not. Can anyone help with this? Thanks.

Spend some time (probably a LOT OF TIME!), searching the passenger lists of the ships. These can be found in the Hong Kong newspapers on line and the Singapore newspapers on line. http://hkclweb.hkpl.gov.hk/hkclr2/internet/eng/html/welcome.html http://newspapers.nl.sg/Default.aspx the search engines aren't that good, so don't just search by name, but physically look at the newspapers for the lists, it will be the only way. I've done this. Took me 2 years to find my relative, but I did - eventually! Good luck Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. -----Original Message----- From: theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of vicki evans Sent: 08 August 2010 19:48 To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: [TSL] Shanghai to UK I have posted about this previously but still hoping someone might be able to trace my great grandmother. Minnie Nelson born 1873, Shanghai, believe her to be a British Subject, father Andrew Nelson. All I know of Minnie is her birth was 1873 in Shanghai and that she appears on the 1891 census in Wales. I have had no success in tracing her passage from Shanghai to the UK, can anyone help. Many thanks Vicki ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have posted about this previously but still hoping someone might be able to trace my great grandmother. Minnie Nelson born 1873, Shanghai, believe her to be a British Subject, father Andrew Nelson. All I know of Minnie is her birth was 1873 in Shanghai and that she appears on the 1891 census in Wales. I have had no success in tracing her passage from Shanghai to the UK, can anyone help. Many thanks Vicki

I found them on a list for the ship Mount Temple 21 March 1911. They are with his parents, 3 children. Ship left Belgium and arrived St John New Brunswick Found using wildcard search on Ancestry for Eva K*Z*I Lorine On 6 Aug 2010 at 17:44, Natalie McGowan wrote: > > My grandfather Wojciech (William) Kozlowski born in 1879 > Tobolow, Poland and his wife Eva Pawluk born in Rozdzalow, > Poland came to Canada 1911. We have the ship's name as > Carlesburg but apparently there was no such ship. Any > information would be appreciated. > > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS * Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ olivetreegenealogy@rogers.com or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Still trying to find ship's passenger list for my gg grandfather, Andrew E. M) McWilliams. Born 1786 in Larne, Antrim, Ireland. Age 15 at emigration. Port of entry was Charleston, SC and he settled in Laurens County, SC, near town of Cross Hill, SC on Cane's Creek. My gg grandmother was Sarah Anne McGowan McWilliams. Born 1784 (or 1786?) in Larne, Antrim, Ireland. Age 17 or 15) at emigration. Port of entry was Charleston, SC on the same ship, and I believe she and Andrew might have been married prior to departing Ireland. Others on the ship that I know include: Patrick McGowan - Born about 1760? in Antrim, Ireland Mary Thompson McGowan - wife of Patrick born in Ireland William McGowan - Born 1787 - age at emigration 13 - son of Patrick and Mary (sister was Sarah Anne above) Janie (Jeannie) McWilliams - Born about 1794 - age at emigration 7 (Later married William) According to a book published about the Reunion of the McGowan Family held at Liberty Springs Church (Presbyterian) in Cross Hill, SC, Aug. 3, 1915, Patrick McGowan, the McWilliams and other Irish families set sail from Belfast in the good ship "Sallie" in the early part of the year 1801 and after a long and stormy voyage reached Charleston, SC in May of that year. Their first attempt on the Sallie was in the fall of 1800. After passing through the Irish Sea, the ship sprang a leak and had to put into the harbor of Cork for repairs. Of course, the spelling of the ship could have been SALLY. And it appears that they may have sailed in 1801 from Cork - not Belfast. Would appreciate any information. Janet McWilliams Winter

Jim The London Times lists the Canada as sailing Feb 10 from Liverpool, to Halifax and then Portland, Maine. She is reported sailing on Feb 10, in the Times of Feb 11. I checked the NY Times and Ellis Island was in the news because of Typhus cases and "vermin infested" immigrants but there is no mention of diverting ships. Regards.. Marj At 10:05 PM 8/5/2010, JT wrote: >A friend related a story passed on to her from her mother. When her >mother came to the United States on the Canada in February 1921, she >was supposed to land in New York on Ellis island. However, the >passengers were discharged in Philadelphia because there was an eye >disease epidemic on Ellis Island. According to Morton Allen, 45 >passengers landed in New York, and 1,710 passengers landed in Philadelphia. >I have never heard of a ship being diverted to another port because >of a health condition on Ellis Island. I feel the Canada had always >been scheduled to land in Philadelphia. Could this person's mother's >story be true? Jim >____________________________________________________________ >Health Plans From $50/mo. >Compare Low-Cost Health Plans Online. Blue Cross, Aetna and more. >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4c5b6dfd3f72524cf78st05vuc >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michelle Findmypast has outbound passenger lists from England. Your Wm is listed but appears to be single in 1899. The passenger lists can be found on Ancestry.com. Regards.. Marj At 02:10 AM 8/6/2010, Michelle Essers wrote: >HI > >I am looking for travel information on William Charles Hoaten. The >information I have is: > >*He *traveled from * London to the Cape**, SthA 1899*. He was listed as Wm >Hoaten, born in 1874. Cape lists him as a Saddler age 25 >** >In 1906 he went from Durban to Southhampton >In 1907 he travelled from Southampton to Cape Town with his wife E Hoaten > >In 1925 he travelled from Durban to Southampton. I do not know when he >returned to SA > >I have not seen any of the manifests, this is all 3rd hand information. > >I wonder if any of the actual manifests mention his martial status. > >Thanks > >Michelle >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message