Hi listers, this today from the Library and Archives Canada September 23, 2010 * Census of 1851 - update www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1851/index-e.html * Launch of "Upper Canada Land Petitions" www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/whats-new/013-479-e.html Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

From The South Australian Advertiser (Adelaide, SA) 3 October 1859 - MISCELLANEOUS SHIPPING. THE SHIP LADY ANN.--The boats left the Semaphore station before daybreak on Saturday morning, the 1st inst., for the purpose of boarding a barque which had been signalled on the evening previous, but the vessel did not reach the anchorage in time for the Press to board her owing to a strong adverse wind and ebb tide ; this vessel was found, to be the Peregrine Oliver (particulars of which are elsewhere reported). From her deck, by the aid of a telescope was observed an object far to the south, previously considered to be two sloops sailing in company, but afterwards perceived to be a vessel of considerable tonnage, presenting a most distressing appearance, with signals of distress flying on her ensign halyards at the peak, indicating the words "send a steam-tug immediately." This signal was answered with the utmost dispatch, the tug getting up steam as soon as the bunting could be made out ashore. The reporter's boat immediately bore down from the Peregrine Oliver and after the crew had pulled for two hours, got alongside the ship, which turned out to be the Lady Ann, with nearly 300 souls on board, from London and Plymouth, and under the command of Captain Alexander Sinclair, a gentleman who had several times made this port with emigrants. His last two vessels were the David Malcolm and the Nile. On being boarded, the Lady Ann presented a crippled and singular appearance, the waist being perfectly clear of spars, masts, both standing and running rigging, and the only indication of the vessel ever having had a mainmast being a short stump showing above the main deck. The immigrants crowded along the bulwark, and such indications of a catastrophe having transpired, caused the almost immediate enquiry whether loss of life had occurred, which providentially was answered in the negative. The following was reported by the captain to our shipping reporter:--The Blackwall liner, Lady Ann, sailed from the London Docks on June 17, with emigrants, and on her way down Channel put into Plymouth Sound for the purpose of taking in her complement of remittance passengers; sailing from thence on July 8, having made, when the trying circumstances which retarded her progress are considered, one of the quickest voyages for the antipodes that has been accomplished for some time ; and although under jury rig from the longitude of St. Paul's Island, has accomplished her voyage in 85 days from Plymouth. Nothing transpired worthy of notice until Sunday, September 11, at 9 o'clock in the evening latitude 45� 30' south; longitude 70� 7' east. The captain was promenading the poop. The ship had all canvas set together with fore and maintopmast studding-sails. The weather was cloudy but fine, with a fresh breeze blowing from W.N.W. The single females had providentially gone from the poop to their berths. The ship was noticed to give a sudden lurch to leeward, when the mainmast was most unexpectedly carried away about 15 feet from the deck, dragging with it in its fall the foretopgallantmast, mizentopmast, top-sail-yard, and cross-jack-yard, breaking the mizentop, starboard bulkwards, poop rail, and quarter boat hanging to the starboard davit. The wreck beat heavily against the ship's side, and it was found impossible to secure it, and preparations were speedily made and carried out reluctantly, but of necessity, to cut adrift the whole of the wreck of the mainmast and mizentopmast, together with all the yards, booms, and sails, the running and standing rigging attached in order to prevent danger to the hull of the ship. The foretopgallant and royal yards, together with their respective sails, were saved. The crash is reported as being instantaneous and tremendous, but resulting in injury to no one ; and although three boats were lashed to the skids, viz., the gig, jolly, and a lifeboat, close to the mainmast, not one of them was injured, all the wreck being blown over the side and striking in its fall the quarter-boat (before mentioned). The total loss is very severe, and it is the wonder of all on board that no life was lost. The loss consists of mainmast, maintopmast, topgallant and royal masts, with all their respective yards ; also the crossjackyard and sails, maintopmast, and two topgallant studdingsails with booms and yards, and the entire standing and running rigging ; also the main and mizen topmaststaysail. No damage was done to the hull. On the steam-tug getting out to sea she proceeded down to the Lady Ann, but the chief pilot, Mr. Creer, found he did not require steam until yesterday morning, owing to the tides not permitting her to cross the bar that day. The emigrants appear clean and healthy, and when the ship was boarded, despite the disaster that had occurred, she presented the appearance of being under the supervision of competent officers, and her 'tween decks were remarkably clean. The industrial list gives the following various artificers and laborers:--Females--2 nurses, 1 cook, 79 domestic servants, 2 dairy-maids, 1 dress-maker, 2 sempstresses ; Males-57 laborers (various, both farm, bricklayers and others), 4 ploughmen, 1 mechanic, 1 smith, 1 wheelwright, 1 shoemaker, 1 shepherd, 1 miner, 1 gardener, 1 miller, 1 porter, 1 bootmaker, 1 tailor, 2 coach painters, 1 frame maker, 1 brush maker, 1 moulder. Two-thirds of the emigrants are Irish, the remainder English and Scotch. The number of English being--Adults, 50 ; children between one and twelve years of age, 13 ; infants, none ; total English, 63. Scotch-Adult, 8 ; children from one to twelve years, 4 ; infant 1 ; total Scotch, 13. Irish-Adults, 177 ; children from one to twelve years of age, 8 ; infants 1 ; total Irish, 186 ; being a grand total of 262. During the voyage neither births nor deaths occurred, and the only complaint prevailing the whole time were three cases of hooping cough. The number of married couples, 36 ; single men, 95 ; single women, 108 ; children from one to twelve years of age-males, 15 ; females 2 ; infants-males 10 ; females, none ; total, equal to 247 1/2 statute adults. The aggregate number of superficial feet in the several compartments set apart for passengers other than cabin passengers in this ship is 3,825. The following vessels were spoken :--On July 30, lat. 9� N., long. 27� W., the British ship Avon, from Victoria, bound to London, 71 days out ; August 10, the barque Lord Palmerston, bound to Buenos Ayres, port of departure unknown. ------------------------------------------------ Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Aherns in Australian Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ahcrim.htm ------------------------------------------------

>From The South Australian Advertiser (Adelaide, SA), 3 October 1859 - SHIPPING NEWS. Wind in the Gulf Yesterday. 8 a.m., N.E. | 4 p.m., W. High Water on the Bar This Day. 5. a.m. | 5.30 p.m. ARRIVED. Saturday, October 1--Peregrine Oliver, barque, 374 tons, J. Rippon, master, from Bluff Harbor, New Zealand. J. W. Smith, agent. In ballast. No passengers. Same day--Lady Ann, ship, 745 tons, A. Sinclair, master, from London, June 17 ; Plymouth, July 8. Elder, Stirling, and Co., agents, Town and Port. Passengers--Mrs. A. Sinclair, and Mr. William Booker (Surgeon Superintendent) Remittance emigrants--Robert and Catherine Collins, Wm., Mary, and Bartholomew Cavanagh, Charles and Lydia Dyer, Thomas and Anne Fisher, James, Biddy, Agnes, and James Kelly, George, Agnes, David, Helen, George, and John Miller, Thomas and Jane Malgueny, Henry, Ann, Fanny, William and Hannah Penno, Peter and Bridget Ryan, James, Agnes, and Alexander Robertson, Michael, Biddy, Michael, and Biddy Reilly, Patrick and Mary Walsh, Margaret Ahern, Ellen Brown, Emma and Selina Bristow, Catherine Bryan, Bridget Byrne, Mary Balton, Mary Bradford, Catherine and Anne Brogan, Ann and Honor Carrigg, Eliza Casey, Ann Sheean, Kate Crean, Johanna Cullivan, Margaret Dundon, Ann Davis, Jane Dunnes, Catherine Darcey, Mary Donnellon, Maria Turguson, Mary Gleeson, Mary Calligan, Mary Gallegan, Ellen Gardiner, Rose Gerry, Bridget Herbert, Johanna Hennessy, Bridget Hogan, Mary Hewett, Jane Hughes, Julia Hougan, Eliza, Mary, Eliza, and Emilv Doskins, Mary Jackson, Rebecca Jackson, Mary Kelly, Mary and Margaret Keefe, Ellen and Mary Kelly, Catherine, Ellen, and Catherine Keogh, Mary and Mary Keane, Norah Sarrissey, Saul Lambert, Honora McMagon, Mary Moloney, Catherine Moran, Peter and Margaret Maloney, Catherine McMahon, Margaret Meara, Mary A. Mora, Mary Mclnevery, Mary Mackay, Mary Moonan, Honora Nehil, Mary O'Connor, Margaret O'Hallinan, Mary O'Leary, Catherine O'Brien, Bridget and Mary Phelan, Bridget and Mary Penno, Martha and Winnefred Ryan, Catherine and Sarah Kooranu, Mary Reilly, Anne and Margaret Reddan, Margaret Rooney, Elizabeth Robinson, Ann Ryan, Mary Rice, Bridget and Rose Raftery, Terence Pierce, Hugh Reilly, Philip, Patrick, John and Michael Reed, William Raftery, Michael Rehiley, John Ryan, Patrick John, and Patrick Raddan, Samuel Rotarts, Patrick Roo, Robert Sinples, James Smith, Charles Steen, Thos. Seales, Timothy, Ellen, Samuel, Richard, Ellen, and John Sullivan, Winnifred and Catherine Ryan, Mary and Bridget Phelan, Mary and Ann Reilly, James, Jane, James, and John Boyd, Thomas and Catherine Neven, Susan and Maria Boyne, Elizabeth Coles, Mary Downs, Honora Horigan, Mary McNarncy, Ellen, Edward, John, and Alfred McKinlay, Margt Spokes, Mary Snickesgill, Mary and Ann Treavellan, Julia Welsh, Thomas Brookman, John Henry Stokes, Thos. and William Treavellen, Abel Villis, Charles, Alfred, and Frederick Houtchings, Frederick Gower, John Gibson, John Morriss, Samuel, Mary, Eliza, William, Elizabeth, and Richard West, Mary Walter, Mary Morris, Ann Lane, Emily Bayles, Anna Painall, Sarah Height, Agnes Steil, Alice and Sarah Sheils, Mary Sheedy, Ellen Smith, Mary Shanaghan, Bridget and Catherine Whealan, Mary Wise, Mary and Alice Woodcraft, Martin Ahern, Patrick Bloint, Michael Brew, Pat. Brown, John Brogan, James Corcoran, John Considcne, Michael Collins, John Cullivan, John Connell, John Cooney, Michael Clavecy, John Duncan, Alexander Donars, Martin Donohoe, Charles Fogarty, John Fisher, John, Dennis, and Christopher Fisher, Albert Glastonberry, Lawrence Grayson, Patrick, Patrick, and Patrick Gleeson, Patrick Hayland, Robert Horsnell, Charles Hendy, George Hosken, Henry Hender, Chas. Humphries, Martin Hogan, Patrick Honoly, Richard Hoskin, William Jackson, Paul, Patrick and Patrick Kelly, Michael Kehoe, Patrick and Peter Kerin, Michael Kennedy, Charles Keogh, Steward Love, John Dynch, Daniel McNamara, Michael Murphy, Hugh McKay, Geo. McFarlane, Patrick McEnroe, John, Cornelius, and Charles Maher, John Moloney, Thos. McMahon, Thomas Moloney, William Dea, Pat. O'Connor, Anthony O'Loughlin, Michael O'Leary, Michael Phealan, Michael Blake, John Buckley, Charles Brady. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, Irish Maritime News Acton, Mass. | http://immigrantships.net/newsarticles/newsarticles.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Williams Head is close to Victoria BC on Vancouver Island, in fact now it is probably with the boundaries of Victoria. Canadian Pacific Ships operated sailings from Victoria to Asia. You might try the Royal BC Museum or the BC Archives in Victoria. Arvid Edmonton, AB T6R 3L6 Canada -----Original Message----- From: theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Searles Sent: September-17-10 7:55 AM To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: [TSL] Arr. Halifax Dec 1919; dep. Wm Head Feb 1920; Ships?? Hi, Can anyone point me in the right direction to find the names of the ships that arrived in Halifax in Dec 1919 (from Britain) and departed William Head (that's Vancouver, I understand) 23/2/20 (destination China). These dates were on the Passenger Declaration of a subsequent voyage the person I am researching took. Once I find the ships I would like to search the passenger lists. If they are available, can anyone tell me where I would find them? Thanks for any help, Mary ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello out there, Has anyone photos of these Australian ships? MV Lake Marquarie, MV Gerringong, MV Troubridge, Shell Tanker Hemiplecta, MV Mount Kembla, SS Barwon when she had cranes, BP Endeavor, renamed BP Explorer, MV Minkara, MV Kooliga when she had cranes, Timbarra and Tallinga? Vänliga hälsningar/Best regards, Jörgen Lönn jorgen.tankers@gmail.com WSS 07200

Hi listers, Does anyone out there have any experience with the Board of trade record series at PRO, Kew. I am keen to know more about the series BT107 which my research tells me gives details of change of ownership of vessels. I live in tasmania, Australia and thus cannot get to Kew to view these. Am contemplating hiring a researcher to view these for me but want to be sure of what is there first - that is unless there is some kind soul out there willing to have look for my specific ship for me. John

I am trying to find any information I can on my Gr. Grandmother. Her name was Elisabeth Browand born abt. 1835 in Switzerland. She immigrated 1852. May have had a brother Rudolph Browand born 1832 Switzerland immigrated 1852 with her. She was in Iowa 1855. MN about 1860. This is all I know about her unfortunately. Marilou

Many thanks, Sue. I tried to find my man but didn't succeed. So either I am doing something wrong or .. . Perhaps his ship passenger list wasn't transcribed . . . ? Are there gaps in what has been transcribed? Or are there other ships, not on your list, that sailed from Scotland? Or the passenger lists are privately owned, ancestry.com, e.g.? The person I am looking for, Dugald Lawson, was a China missionary, b. 1861, Scotland. After retiring he seems to have gone with the government because he is a Capt. on the Passenger Declaration record I did find and had sailed on the Empress of Asia - Hong Kong/Yokohama/Vancouver, arr. 26 Apr 1920, in transit. It was from the Passenger Declaration of that voyage that I got the info I about the earlier trip. (This info was from ancestry.com) I don't belong to ancestry or findmypast, but I have access to ancestry at my library and will try again there. I can also order through InterLibraryLoan the film you suggest and read it. Again, thank you, Mary > > Hi Mary, > > These are all the passenger ships from England, which arrived at Halifax > in > December 1919. > > They are all available on Microfilm Reel No. T-14798 > > Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping > Line Special Group(s) Remarks > > GRAMPIAN London, England 1919-11-21 / Havre, France Halifax, > N.S. 1919-12-01 (CPOS) Canadian Pacific Ocean Services Ltd. > (O): > British Ministry of Shipping party & (O): Crew of H.M.S. [MARTINE] & VIVID > Master: G. Hamilton > > ROYAL GEORGE Southampton, England 1919-11-27 Halifax, N.S. > 1919-12-07 (CUN) Cunard Line Master: William > Prothero > > BOHEMIAN Liverpool, England 1919-11-26 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-11 / > Boston, MA (WS) White Star Line Master: E.C. Hiscoe > > CARONIA Southampton, England 1919-12-08 Halifax, N.S. > 1919-12-13 (CUN) Cunard Line Master: E.G. Diggle > > CARMANIA Liverpool, England 1919-12-03 Halifax, N.S. > 1919-12-13 (CUN) Cunard Line (M): Nominal Roll of returning > Canadian Military Master: George W. Melsom > > SAXONIA London, England 1919-12-06 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-18 / New > York, NY 1919-12-21 (CUN) Cunard Line (M): Returning Canadian > Military & (M): Military Dependents Master: R.V. Peel > > SACHEM Liverpool, England 1919-12-03 / St. John's, Nfld. Halifax, > N.S. 1919-12-19 (FURN) Furness Line, Liverpool Master: > Robert Ritchie > > KANAWHA London, England 1919-12-04 Halifax, N.S. > 1919-12-19 (FURN) Furness Line, Liverpool Master: A. > Bailey > > ORDUNA Liverpool, England 1919-12-13 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-22 / New > York, NY 1919-12-24 (CUN) Cunard Line (M): Nominal Roll of > returning Canadian Military Master: T.M. Taylor > > CASTELLENO London, England 1919-12-10 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-26 / > St. John, N.B. (FURN) Furness Line, Liverpool Master: W.H. > Gould > > If you have an Ancestry.com subscription, you can search the lists by > name, > vessel name, etc. etc. etc. If not, they are available online at the > Library and Archives, Canada (LAC), but be aware .. > >>Major interruption of LAC computing services September 18 >> >>On Saturday September 18, 2010 from 6:00 am to 12:00 pm, there will be a >>major interruption of LAC computing services. >> >>During this period, the following services will be unavailable: >> >> * All LAC Websites >> * All LAC applications (AMICUS, Search All, etc.) >> >>Library and Archives Canada regrets any inconvenience that this may cause. > > Passenger Lists, 1865-1922 > http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html > > You can narrow your search even more by searching by the passenger name > and > including one by one the ship names above, and the port of arrival by > using > Ancestors on Board database to search the British "outbound" lists ... > > http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ > > ... if you want to view the original list at that site, you will have to > pay for it, but the search is free. > > Canada did not maintain "outbound" lists, but these two vessels arrived at > Vancouver from China, prior to 23rd February 1920 ... both Canadian > Pacific > vessels > > EMPRESS OF RUSSIA Manila, Philippines 1919-12-20 / Hong Kong > 1919-12-25 / Shanghai, China 1919-12-31 / Kobe, Japan 1920-01-04 / > Yokohama, Japan 1920-01-05 Vancouver, B.C. 1920-01-15 Master: > S. Robinson > > MONTEAGLE Hong Kong 1920-01-18 / Shanghai, China 1920-01-22 / Moji, > [Japan] 1920-01-26 / Yokohama, Japan 1920-02-28 Vancouver, B.C. > 1920-02-12 Master: A.J. Hosken > > Both these ships made six trips like this, in the year 1920, about 24-25 > days passage. I can add one more possible ship if the destination was > Hong > Kong > > EMPRESS OF ASIA Hong Kong 1920-01-22 / Yokohama, Japan > 1920-01-31 Vancouver, B.C. 1920-02-09 Master: A.J. Hailey > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > At 08:55 AM 2010-09-17 -0500, you wrote: >>Hi, Can anyone point me in the right direction to find the names of the >>ships that arrived in Halifax in Dec 1919 (from Britain) and departed >>William Head (that's Vancouver, I understand) 23/2/20 (destination China). >>These dates were on the Passenger Declaration of a subsequent voyage the >>person I am researching took. Once I find the ships I would like to >>search >>the passenger lists. If they are available, can anyone tell me where I >>would find them? >> >>Thanks for any help, >> >>Mary > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to > THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 172 > ******************************************** >

Hi Mary, These are all the passenger ships from England, which arrived at Halifax in December 1919. They are all available on Microfilm Reel No. T-14798 Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks GRAMPIAN London, England 1919-11-21 / Havre, France Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-01 (CPOS) Canadian Pacific Ocean Services Ltd. (O): British Ministry of Shipping party & (O): Crew of H.M.S. [MARTINE] & VIVID Master: G. Hamilton ROYAL GEORGE Southampton, England 1919-11-27 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-07 (CUN) Cunard Line Master: William Prothero BOHEMIAN Liverpool, England 1919-11-26 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-11 / Boston, MA (WS) White Star Line Master: E.C. Hiscoe CARONIA Southampton, England 1919-12-08 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-13 (CUN) Cunard Line Master: E.G. Diggle CARMANIA Liverpool, England 1919-12-03 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-13 (CUN) Cunard Line (M): Nominal Roll of returning Canadian Military Master: George W. Melsom SAXONIA London, England 1919-12-06 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-18 / New York, NY 1919-12-21 (CUN) Cunard Line (M): Returning Canadian Military & (M): Military Dependents Master: R.V. Peel SACHEM Liverpool, England 1919-12-03 / St. John's, Nfld. Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-19 (FURN) Furness Line, Liverpool Master: Robert Ritchie KANAWHA London, England 1919-12-04 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-19 (FURN) Furness Line, Liverpool Master: A. Bailey ORDUNA Liverpool, England 1919-12-13 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-22 / New York, NY 1919-12-24 (CUN) Cunard Line (M): Nominal Roll of returning Canadian Military Master: T.M. Taylor CASTELLENO London, England 1919-12-10 Halifax, N.S. 1919-12-26 / St. John, N.B. (FURN) Furness Line, Liverpool Master: W.H. Gould If you have an Ancestry.com subscription, you can search the lists by name, vessel name, etc. etc. etc. If not, they are available online at the Library and Archives, Canada (LAC), but be aware .. >Major interruption of LAC computing services September 18 > >On Saturday September 18, 2010 from 6:00 am to 12:00 pm, there will be a >major interruption of LAC computing services. > >During this period, the following services will be unavailable: > > * All LAC Websites > * All LAC applications (AMICUS, Search All, etc.) > >Library and Archives Canada regrets any inconvenience that this may cause. Passenger Lists, 1865-1922 http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html You can narrow your search even more by searching by the passenger name and including one by one the ship names above, and the port of arrival by using Ancestors on Board database to search the British "outbound" lists ... http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/ ... if you want to view the original list at that site, you will have to pay for it, but the search is free. Canada did not maintain "outbound" lists, but these two vessels arrived at Vancouver from China, prior to 23rd February 1920 ... both Canadian Pacific vessels EMPRESS OF RUSSIA Manila, Philippines 1919-12-20 / Hong Kong 1919-12-25 / Shanghai, China 1919-12-31 / Kobe, Japan 1920-01-04 / Yokohama, Japan 1920-01-05 Vancouver, B.C. 1920-01-15 Master: S. Robinson MONTEAGLE Hong Kong 1920-01-18 / Shanghai, China 1920-01-22 / Moji, [Japan] 1920-01-26 / Yokohama, Japan 1920-02-28 Vancouver, B.C. 1920-02-12 Master: A.J. Hosken Both these ships made six trips like this, in the year 1920, about 24-25 days passage. I can add one more possible ship if the destination was Hong Kong EMPRESS OF ASIA Hong Kong 1920-01-22 / Yokohama, Japan 1920-01-31 Vancouver, B.C. 1920-02-09 Master: A.J. Hailey Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 08:55 AM 2010-09-17 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, Can anyone point me in the right direction to find the names of the >ships that arrived in Halifax in Dec 1919 (from Britain) and departed >William Head (that's Vancouver, I understand) 23/2/20 (destination China). >These dates were on the Passenger Declaration of a subsequent voyage the >person I am researching took. Once I find the ships I would like to search >the passenger lists. If they are available, can anyone tell me where I >would find them? > >Thanks for any help, > >Mary

Hi, Can anyone point me in the right direction to find the names of the ships that arrived in Halifax in Dec 1919 (from Britain) and departed William Head (that's Vancouver, I understand) 23/2/20 (destination China). These dates were on the Passenger Declaration of a subsequent voyage the person I am researching took. Once I find the ships I would like to search the passenger lists. If they are available, can anyone tell me where I would find them? Thanks for any help, Mary

I have been trying to track down the passage of a Minnie Nelson born 1873 Shanghai to the UK for a long time now. I have recently been told one route someone from Shangahi might take would be: Shanghai to the port of Vancouver Canada, travel overland by train and then take a ship from the port of Halifax, Canada to whichever port in Britain. I believe she came over mid to late 1880's, as she appears on the 1891 census and then marries a welsh man in 1896. Would it be possible to see if anyone can track her from Shanghai to Canada, and / or Canada to the UK. many many thanks

not sure if anyone can help, I am trying to find the passage of a family from Southern Ireland to Liverpool. They appear in Liverpool on the 1871 census, both brothers wereborn in Ireland, James Reardon in c1836, and Edward Reardon c1831. I am not sure if they travelled with family over to Liverpool. would it be possible for someone to check some passenger lists for me. Many thanks

Hi again Vicki, Oh dear ... this doesn't get any better. I'm afraid you are out of luck for an 18th or 19th century passenger record between Ireland and England or Scotland. England and Ireland were one country and there were no restrictions on travel so no passenger lists were archived. There were regular Ferry connections, but no surviving records. Read Debbie Beavis' article about British Records http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/ukrecords.html See under the heading of "Lists Not Available:" for full details. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:30 PM 2010-09-16 +0000, vicki evans wrote: >not sure if anyone can help, I am trying to find the passage of a family >from Southern Ireland to Liverpool. They appear in Liverpool on the 1871 >census, both brothers wereborn in Ireland, James Reardon in c1836, and >Edward Reardon c1831. I am not sure if they travelled with family over to >Liverpool. would it be possible for someone to check some passenger lists >for me. > >Many thanks

Hi Vicki, You have a few impediments, unfortunately. To date I know of no Shanghai outbound passenger lists ... ...Vancouver, B.C. inbound records do not begin before 1905 ... The rail line from BC, east (to Quebec / Halifax) was not completed until 1886 http://www.theshipslist.com/pictures/train.htm ... Canada did not maintain outbound passenger lists ... UK inbound lists do not begin until 1890. It is not all bad news, because it can confirm a time-frame of 1886-1891. Sorry I wasn't the bearer of better news. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:33 PM 2010-09-16 +0000, vicki evans wrote: >I have been trying to track down the passage of a Minnie Nelson born 1873 >Shanghai to the UK for a long time now. I have recently been told one >route someone from Shangahi might take would be: > >Shanghai to the port of Vancouver Canada, travel overland >by train and then take a ship from the port of Halifax, Canada to whichever >port in Britain. > >I believe she came over mid to late 1880's, as she appears on the 1891 >census and then marries a welsh man in 1896. > >Would it be possible to see if anyone can track her from Shanghai to >Canada, and / or Canada to the UK. > >many many thanks

Thought this site might help someone after info on an Australian ship/ Ships that came here http://photosau.com/DuftyCollection/scripts/home.asp Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for September 2010 is . . . o Wrecks: o Wrecks of Steam Ships - 1840-92 - updated Revisiting an old page with additional information and corrections from our own ... Ted Finch ...thanks Ted. o Fleets: o Frank C. Strick & Co. / Strick Line o Holland-Afrika Lijn / Nederlandsch Zuid-Afrikaansche Scheepvaart Maatschappij Strick Line is a biggie ... Holland South Africa Line, not so big, but just as interesting. o Passengers: o John Molson - 23rd trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 1st October 1832 o John Molson - 24th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 8th October 1832 o John Molson - 25th trip up, 3 Rivers to Montreal, 13th October 1832 o John Molson - 26th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 23rd October 1832 o ... o ship Malvina Vidal, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 17th January 1857 o barque Victoria, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 7th February 1857 Four more JOHN MOLSON steamboat passenger lists for 1832. Just five more to complete the year, then I will begin the CHAMBLY, which was a "boat of the second class," so there won't be as many passengers crammed on board, as we found on the JM earlier in the year 800-900 was incredible for vessels which shouldn't have carried more than 300. 1832 was a cholera year, so I can hardly wait to read what the newspapers say ... I imagine people were "outraged," as people seem to be so easily outraged these days. The first two German passenger lists to South Australia for 1857. Once again, really well constructed lists from ALL known, available sources, however, as I often say ... if we have made any errors or if you have additional information about family members aboard, we would love to hear from you. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Pictures related to S. S. Tudall found on Google search posted to a Flickr account at http://www.flickr.com/photos/waterclock/2240634322/in/photostream/ Bill McMicken -----Original Message----- From: theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:theshipslist-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:01 AM To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 168 Today's Topics: 1. Old Ship Photos (Jim Murphy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:21:26 +0100 From: Jim Murphy <jamescmurphy@eircom.net> Subject: [TSL] Old Ship Photos To: Ships list <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4C8DFB26.6080105@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi; I am looking for some information or suggestions on where I might find photos of old ships for research work that I am doing on some local seamen from the Cork Harbour area of Passage West. The ship details are as follows . MHST Assurance (59) Lost i941 S.S. Tuddal (formerly SS Dunottar ID No. 1104649) Lost in 1917 Sailing Ship "Thornhill" a three-masted barque built in Quebec 1885 and also the following Sailingships of the cir.1870's "Assaryian"; "Eliza Keith"; "Canada" and "Arthur White" Any help appreciated Thanks Jim Murphy ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to THESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 168 ********************************************

Hi; I am looking for some information or suggestions on where I might find photos of old ships for research work that I am doing on some local seamen from the Cork Harbour area of Passage West. The ship details are as follows . MHST Assurance (59) Lost i941 S.S. Tuddal (formerly SS Dunottar ID No. 1104649) Lost in 1917 Sailing Ship "Thornhill" a three-masted barque built in Quebec 1885 and also the following Sailingships of the cir.1870's "Assaryian"; "Eliza Keith"; "Canada" and "Arthur White" Any help appreciated Thanks Jim Murphy

Hello Listers John Gunn ROBINS (1805-1860), my ggf's brother, served in at least four different ships in the Royal Navy. The first one I know of is "HMS Active" in 1841 (when he'd been on it 'for some time' - he joined the RN in 1823). From 1 Dec 1841 to Feb 1845, he was on "HMS Apollo". 1845-1847 saw him on "HMS Firebrand" The last one is "HMS Impregnable" from 1857. I have a couple of photos of "Impregnable". Can anyone tell me where I might find pictures of "Active", "Apollo" and "Firebrand" please? Any information on these three would also be gratefuly received. I have a short paragraph on "Impregnable". Many thanks. Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Emily Young wrote: > My gr gr grandmother, Elizabeth (PFRUNDER) ZWEIFEL left Switzerland in > the autumn of 1848, according to the State Archives of Canton Glarus. > She was a widow, with 3 young boys. > > Just recently I stumbled on some information about Cholera in New York > City. According to the Brooklyn Eagle, 5 Dec. 1848 there was a ship > named New York that arrived in New York from Le Havre, France on 1 Dec. > 1848 with some 19 cases of Cholera & 6 or 7 having already died. The > emigrants were mostly German & Swiss. That ship's list has been indexed at the Castle Garden website: http://www.castlegarden.org/searcher.php Search for: Ship = New York Port of Departure = Havre (not Le Havre) Date = 1848-1848 The results will show all passengers for all arrivals in that year, and you'll have to sift through them. I didn't see anything resembling Zweifel, but I only looked at the surnames beginning with S and Z. You may find some more convoluted spelling. Good luck! Kathy Good luck!