Hi Andrea, You might want to consider joining our sister list, MARINERS, to ask about seamen. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/Mariners.html Mariners Website http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/ On TheShipsList, there are two items from the Sydney Shipping Gazette about that vessel in 1844, about 3/4 of the way down the page, added in the paper as if by after-thought, about mid December. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/au1844d.htm ... unfortunately, no discussion about "Pope." Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 11:19 PM 2010-10-24 +1000, Andrea Balcombe wrote: >Hi everyone, > >The barque "Thomas Hughes" sailed from Liverpool on 18th July 1844 and >arrived Port Phillip, Melbourne on Nov 23 1844. > >Captain Butler brought 3 seamen, named Pope, Evans and O'Hea/O'Hare to be >charged with insubordination on the high seas. > >I am wondering if seaman POPE is possibly my ancestor John Richard POPE b. >1823 Bristol, Gloucestershire, UK. > >The timeframe is right; he m. Jane Morgan on 13 July 1846 in Melbourne, Vic. >Bapt of son in 1848 has his occupation listed as sailor; sons baptism and >death cert 1849 & 1851 give occupation as mariner. From then on he was >miner or digger. (All in Vic.) > >Does anyone have more info re this ship and would records give POPEs >christian name/s (or even list him/crew at all) or has anyone come across >my man please? > >Cheers, Andrea.

Jim Checked the NY Times and found nothing but in the Toronto Globe and Mail there was a little item on January 5, 1942. Mostly it talked about them sinking 3 U-boats. It says that H.M.S. Stanley was the former US destroyer McCalls. The London Times reported the loss of the vessel on Jan 5, 1942 but none of the papers talk about the survivors. Regards.. Marj At 08:02 AM 10/20/2010, Jim Murphy wrote: >Hi, >Would any of the members be able to tell where I could find >details of the "survivors" of HMS Stanley lost 19/12/1941. > >I have the names of those that were lost. >Any help appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Jim Murphy >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Would any of the members be able to tell where I could find details of the "survivors" of HMS Stanley lost 19/12/1941. I have the names of those that were lost. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Jim Murphy

In a message dated 10/17/2010 9:53:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marj@uwaterloo.ca writes: First off -- there was a dock strike in Quebec in 1963 so in Sept-Oct of 1963 the Empress of Canada had to land her passengers in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Because of this, when she sailed back to England on Oct 16 she only had 10 passengers! ...... The strike in Montreal began on Sept 9, after the Aug 29, sailing and the schedule was altered. The London Times reports her arrival Sept 4, from her Aug 29 sailing. She sailed Sept 12, for Montreal but i cannot find an arrival for her. Oct 4, she sailed again from Liverpool but landed her passengers in Halifax. Regards.. Marj Thanks but its not what I am looking for. What I need is the price for each bed/cabin for the 1963 season. Also looking at the information I have it does not match what you found/suggested. The strike began on October 4 , with terms of the settlement reached on October 12th and the dock works coming back in Montreal on October 14th. Some of the liners it appears got away from Quebec just as the strike began without any major problems but the poor Empress of Canada in bound from Liverpool to Montreal when the strike began. She got as far as Quebec on Tuesday, October 8th. Unable to land her passengers in Quebec she got assurances and a court order to limit the strike activities in Montreal. But then the river pilots refused to take her down river and the unions threatened problems if she docked. Finally with 409 passengers on board she turned tail and went back up the St. Lawrence to Halifax where she arrived October 13th. If she had waited a little bit longer the strike was settled. But her passengers were unable to get to Halifax for the return sailing so she went out on October 15th with just 6 passengers ... not even the 11 you said. Five of the 6 were one family. Needless to say it was written up in the Canadian newspapers. Thanks Allan Jordan

Barbara There were several vessels named Caledonia but this is one I found. From the London Times of Dec 9, 1816 Port-au-Prince, Sept. 28. On the night of the 18th and 19th inst, we experienced one of the most tremendous hurricanes known on this island for many years past. Nearly one half of the house in the town were blown down. Every vessel in the harbour, except the English ship Ororomocto, were driven on shore, and several American ships, brigs, and schooners, upset. A large English ship, called the Caledonia, which arrived the day before from Baltimore, parted from her anchors and drove on board the President frigate, and both of them were completely dismasted. The Caledonia was part of an expedition fitted out by Mina, bound for the Spanish main, to assist the Independents. Mina is looked for every day. The country all around is in a frightful situation, nearly every thing being destroyed. A barrel of flour cannot be purchased for less than 30 dollars. Regards.. Marj At 11:20 PM 10/17/2010, Barbara Neish wrote: >My ancestor Captain James Cabel 1779-1816 also Owner of the Ship HMS >Caledonia (His Will states 32 shares) > >We also had a 13 Foot model of the ship (model donated to Fraternity of >Masters & Seamen Dundee - now reposes at Camperdown, Dundee - I have see it >and have phographs). > >The Grave of his Wife at The Howff, Dundee makes mention of his death in St >Thomas, Danish West Indies. > >Is there any possibility of learning what caused his death In St Thomas, >learn if he is buried there, and/or details of the ship's visit ? > >Descendants of James Cabel (Captain/Ship-owner) > >1 James CABEL (Captain/Ship-owner) > >2 b: April 25, 1779 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland > > >3 d: July 18, 1816 in St. Thomas, Danish West Indies > > +Margaret NEISH > >b: January 17, 1786 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland > >m: August 16, 1802 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland > >d: Abt November 17, 1827 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland (Grave The Howff) > > Much obliged for any suggestions > >Barbara Neish > >Bermuda > > > > >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestor Captain James Cabel 1779-1816 also Owner of the Ship HMS Caledonia (His Will states 32 shares) We also had a 13 Foot model of the ship (model donated to Fraternity of Masters & Seamen Dundee - now reposes at Camperdown, Dundee - I have see it and have phographs). The Grave of his Wife at The Howff, Dundee makes mention of his death in St Thomas, Danish West Indies. Is there any possibility of learning what caused his death In St Thomas, learn if he is buried there, and/or details of the ship's visit ? Descendants of James Cabel (Captain/Ship-owner) 1 James CABEL (Captain/Ship-owner) 2 b: April 25, 1779 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland 3 d: July 18, 1816 in St. Thomas, Danish West Indies +Margaret NEISH b: January 17, 1786 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland m: August 16, 1802 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland d: Abt November 17, 1827 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland (Grave The Howff) Much obliged for any suggestions Barbara Neish Bermuda

First off -- there was a dock strike in Quebec in 1963 so in Sept-Oct of 1963 the Empress of Canada had to land her passengers in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Because of this, when she sailed back to England on Oct 16 she only had 10 passengers! In the Globe and Mail of Jan 12, 1963 there is an ad for the Empress of Canada Cruise to Mediterranean for $27.50 US per day on Feb 21. On March 2, the ad is for sailing from NY to Europe for $217tourist and first class $351. It says this is a reduction for the "thrift season" which was April. Next ads in mid-April from sailings from Montreal to Liverpool for $244 tourist. Advertised sailings were May 17, June 7, June 27, July 18, Aug 8, Aug 29, ...Oct 11, Nov 1, then an ad on Nov 9 for the EofC to sail to Caribbean for $243 tourist. The strike in Montreal began on Sept 9, after the Aug 29, sailing and the schedule was altered. The London Times reports her arrival Sept 4, from her Aug 29 sailing. She sailed Sept 12, for Montreal but i cannot find an arrival for her. Oct 4, she sailed again from Liverpool but landed her passengers in Halifax. Regards.. Marj At 11:12 AM 10/17/2010, Aejordan@aol.com wrote: >Not so much a "roots" request but since this is a ship list maybe someone >can help. > >I am trying to locate a 1963 sailing schedule for the Cunard Line ships >going in and out of Montreal to Ireland, England and Holland. > >I am also trying to locate a 1963 full rate chart for the Canadian Pacific >Empress of Canada for her trans-Atlantic sailings between Montreal and >England. > >All I need is a good clean photocopy or scans of these pages. I don't >have to have the originals. > >If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated. Email me at >sstraveler at aol. dot com please. > >THANKS! >------------------------------- >visit TheShipsList Website >http://www.theshipslist.com/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not so much a "roots" request but since this is a ship list maybe someone can help. I am trying to locate a 1963 sailing schedule for the Cunard Line ships going in and out of Montreal to Ireland, England and Holland. I am also trying to locate a 1963 full rate chart for the Canadian Pacific Empress of Canada for her trans-Atlantic sailings between Montreal and England. All I need is a good clean photocopy or scans of these pages. I don't have to have the originals. If anyone could help me out it would be appreciated. Email me at sstraveler at aol. dot com please. THANKS!

Hi Pennye, Afraid you have been misinformed. The German Empire was a small passenger / cargo ship which sailed for the West Hartlepool Steam Navigation Co between Hamburg and West Hartlepool. Passengers would have disembarked at West Hartlepool and taken a train to Liverpool where they would board a transatlantic liner. See http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/hartlepool.htm and http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pennye Scheiber" <pennyes@comcast.net> To: <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: [TSL] German Empire > > Hi, > Someone stated that this ship never sailed to the U.S. but my Great > Grandmother, Juliana Mikolajewska, age 34, departed July 29, 1892 > from Hamburg. The ship flew an English flag and then departed from > West Hartlepool to the U.S. via Liverpool.and arrived in the U.S. I > don't have an arrival date as I have not been able to find the U.S. > ship log, but I do have the German one. > Take care...............Pennye Scheiber > PS. Her name was really Johannah. > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.448 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3195 - Release Date: 10/13/10 18:34:00

Could she have stayed in England? And lied about her age? There are a few Mikdajewska on this voyage Name: Johanna Mikdajewska [Johanna Mikolajewska] Arrival Date: 14 Dec 1902 Birth Year: abt 1874 Age: 28 Gender: Female Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: Russian Port of Departure: Hamburg Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Patricia Creslaw Mikdajewska [Czeslaw Mikolajewska] Franziska Mikdajewska [Franziska Mikolajewska] I suspect tho that her name is so butchered that she is hiding in plain sight. Eliz On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Pennye Scheiber <pennyes@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi, > Someone stated that this ship never sailed to the U.S. but my Great > Grandmother, Juliana Mikolajewska, age 34, departed July 29, 1892 > from Hamburg.  The ship flew an English flag and then departed from > West Hartlepool to the U.S. via Liverpool.and arrived in the U.S.  I > don't have an arrival date as I have not been able to find the U.S. > ship log, but I do have the German one. > Take care...............Pennye Scheiber > PS.  Her name was really Johannah. > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Someone stated that this ship never sailed to the U.S. but my Great Grandmother, Juliana Mikolajewska, age 34, departed July 29, 1892 from Hamburg. The ship flew an English flag and then departed from West Hartlepool to the U.S. via Liverpool.and arrived in the U.S. I don't have an arrival date as I have not been able to find the U.S. ship log, but I do have the German one. Take care...............Pennye Scheiber PS. Her name was really Johannah.

Hello Listers I have a note that Captain William STEVENS (1825-1897) passed as a Master in Australia and a Pilot in New Zealand. Where would I be able to find out more about these qualifications please? Is there a specific List I should be enquiring on? For the record William arrived in NSW in 1841 at a teenager and moved to NZ in 1843. I'm guessing that the qualifications could have been obtained in the late 1840s or early 1850s. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

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G'day Listers I have had no joy in finding a digitized, online NY newspaper, from the 1847-55 time period, that contains shipping movements and intelligence. And preferably free! I am researching a Liverpool ship, the SEA, [1847-53] which may or may not have sailed to NY. There was an Irish Famine vessel called Sea, that was in NY in this time period, but cannot find any details of her, or her captain to confirm that she was my ship. My captains would have been Hubert or Lawson. I am compiling a history of my ship from newspaper shipping movements, and am stuck in NY. Any assistance would be appreciated. Cheers........Bob

Bob McKenzie wrote: > G'day Listers I have had no joy in finding a digitized, online NY > newspaper, from the 1847-55 time period, that contains shipping > movements and intelligence. The New York Times archive, which is free, covers part of that time period (1851-1855). Search for "Marine Intelligence." http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?srchst=p Good luck! Kathy

Hello, I¹m new to this list so please be gentle. I have the ³Sir Allan McNab² from London arriving Nelson, New Zealand 8 August 1855 with Mr Bird & 3 children on board. I am trying to ascertain if this is my family. Are there any embarkation lists available with more information please? My ancestors ­ John Bird B1790 Cumwhitton, his daughter Isabella Bird born Cumwhitton with her illegitimate son John born Chester-le-Street, and Margaret Bird born Ainstable. Isabella aged C30yrs and Margaret C22yrs so not really children. They all joined their son/brother (Joshua) in Wakefield, Nelson and died there. John and his daughter Isabella (and her son John) are on the 1851 census at Portobello. Also on board were ³24 miners and labourers for the Dun Mountain Copper Mine, Nelson NZ). Another daughter Ann Dixon,her husband Isaac and daughter Elizabeth also went out to Nelson, New Zealand. Isaac died on voyage out. Ann would have been travelling under her married name so haven¹t included her in the above. Many thanks for any suggestions/help. Cheers Gwyneth Sydney Researching: Dodds, Hastilow, Bird, Richardson, Watson, Waide, Rudkin

Hi there After 10 years we have finally found my grandfather's death certificate. He died in Mauritius at the Moka Hospital, Moka at the age of 59 (he was actually 63). He lived or boarded at Rosehill. William Beastall Wilkinson was a seafaring man for most of his life from the age of 15 working his way up the ranks obtaining the rank of Master in 1915. He was Master of various ships during his career with the last ship listed on the Lloyds Log of Logs as the 'Cecile' in 1932. After that I don't know what happened, whether he was Captain on coastal traders off the African coast or a ship that he was on called in there and he had to get off due to illness or accident. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks Sue Woodcock Brisbane Australia

Hello all, Noble Hunter with his wife Elizabeth Wilson sailed from Scotland to Canada about 1856. Are ships with passenger lists records available for 1856? They had resided at Musselburgh, Midlothian. Where would they have sailed from? Thank you, Mrs. P. Lindsay, B.C. Canada

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for September 2010 is . . . o Passengers SA: o barque Peter Goddefroy, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 7th September 1857 & Melbourne 19th September 1857 This is a great list, with lot of different passenger numbers reported in the newspaper, but we have noted the correct number on the webpage. Robert outdid himself compiling this list, however, as we always say ... if anyone has any correction or addition to add, it will be most welcome. note: the Melbourne arrival list for this vessel does not appear to have survived (that is, at the ProVic), however all those Melbourne destined passengers can all be found on this page. o Passengers Steamboats: o John Molson - 27th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 27th October 1832 o John Molson - 28th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 2nd November 1832 o John Molson - 29th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 5th November 1832 o John Molson - 30th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 10th November 1832 o John Molson - 31st trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 15th November 1832 These are the last JOHN MOLSON steamboat passenger lists for 1832. These last lists were often hard to read, so apologies for the number of ? ; interesting to note that there were Emigration Society Tickets being given, right up to 2nd last trip. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). ps. going to a family reunion, so there won't be another *new* for at least two + weeks. Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/