Mr GGgrandparents and six children left County Louth, Ireland around the 1st of November 1852 on the Plantagenet and arrived in New Orleans, Louisiana January 10, 1853. The ship's master was "Price". I got that much information from the New Orleans Public Library many years ago but their copy of two pages only showed three children. In the past few years I wrote to the library wanting a better copy (complete) of passengers and was told that that those records had been moved somewhere else and were ruined by Hurricane Katrina. The ship was listed from Liverpool. Is it likely that they boarded the ship at Belfast, where seven years before they had landed when they left Scotland, or did they have to cross back over and leave from Liverpool?   Mary McArthur Lander

Lawrence Wilkinson & wife Susannah Smith, their son and wife's parents emmigerated to New England (Providence, Rhode Island) ca 1648/49. Is there a record of the ship they came over on?   Mary M. Lander

I've just received notification about these new research aids for Canadian Immigration records. I had a look and they look like they will be very useful, especially when trying to decipher those unreadable column headings. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ New Tools for Immigration Records Ottawa, November 18, 2010 – Library and Archives Canada is pleased to announce the launch of new tools to facilitate the consultation and use of its immigration records, one of the largest and most consulted by genealogists. Transcriptions of headings of different forms used to record the names of immigrants arriving in Canada between 1865 and 1935 are now accessible on the Library and Archives Canada website. Links to different databases and websites offering nominal indexes or digitized images of immigration records have been regrouped on a single web page. These pages can be accessed at the following addresses: Immigration Records Headings: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.012-e.html Immigration Records Indexes: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.013-e.html TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

>From one of my other mailing lists... Hello everyone I was just relaxing and watching the Discovery Channel program which dealt with a Cold Case Investigation of Jack The Ripper. The Detective conducting the investigation was following the suspect, a lunatic escapee from a Lunatic Asylum in London. He discovered that after this guy escaped the Asylum, the killings started. Then, they suddenly stopped. He then discovered from the Asylum records that the guy came to the U.S.. He followed his travels though-out the U.S. and similar killings were discovered in almost every city he visited. The newspaper reports always asked the questions everyone wanted to know. Is this killing by Jack the Ripper? They were all similar. Anyway, the way he found out about his coming to the U.S and what ship he sailed on as well as the date, is that he went to the British Maritime Museum, which has records of all ships sailing to the U.S. in the19th century. Thought this was very interesting and it could be helpful if the Museum is willing to do searches for people. Anyway, just for everyone's information. By the way, the Detective(formerly a New York City Cold Case Detective) took the suspects picture to a former NYPD artist and asked him to make the picture "younger" since he had a good description of the suspect in his '30's '. After the artist was finished with the suspects picture which was of him in his 60's or 70's, they then created a picture of the suspects description per witnesses(I don't know what witnesses they had as I thought there were none). When he was finished, they showed the two photos on the computer next to each other . They were identical. So, possible that he found Jack the Ripper. I really found it interesting. So, keep the Maritime Museum in mind as a future possible source of information. Have a good day everyone

*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for November 2010 is . . . o Pictures: o Prussian 1869, Allan Line Thanks to the generosity of one of our website visitors, we have the picture of PRUSSIAN, which he purchased from the Library and Archives Canada. It gave the opportunity to add to scanned photocopies pertaining to the Prussian, one a breakfast menu from 1875 ... how about some fried tripe and onions! o Arrivals: o Ships to Quebec 1832 (four pages) Finally finished 1832 Quebec newspapers and I am delighted with the result. The only disappointment is that the Quebec Gazette didn't name too many "cabin" passengers on the arriving vessels. I always enjoy finding those, because if you then find those same people on one of the steamboats, then there is a good chance that some of the steerage passengers arrived on the same vessel. The consolation was that I did find several passenger testimonials, "signed" by some of the passengers. There was a LOT of discussion about the cholera in 1832, I didn't include it all, but some, to give readers an idea of the scope. eg. the United States would not allow entry to the US from Canada, and sometimes it got a bit ugly. There was a lot of anger and finger pointing and the poor emigrants were caught in the middle. Also included are a few death notices to show how cholera didn't only affect the poor, but all walks of life. There is also discussion about the Emigrant Societies in Quebec and Montreal, and even how they repatriated emigrants who had lost a bread-winner, for example. I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed transcribing it. o Passengers: o Quebec o John Molson - 7th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 11th June 1832 (reposting this list because the Scottish passengers are now identified as having arrived at Quebec aboard the brig Portaferry) o Chambly - 4th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 9th June 1832 ... more than 733 passengers o Chambly - 5th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 15th June 1832 ... more than 400 passengers o ... o South Australia o brig Caesar & Helene, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 21st September 1857 o barque August, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 9th December 1857 I reposted the 7th trip for JOHN MOLSON because the Scottish passengers on board have now been found in a newspaper testimonial as having arrived aboard the brig PORTAFERRY, from Greenock. Two more CHAMBLY lists, some maybe from Wales on the 4th trip, from the brig HENRY from Swansea, which was found in a sinking state (lat & long included) by the brig REDWING from Sunderland, who brought the passengers to Quebec. The 5th trip doesn't offer up any hints yet. (other than the list compiler seems to have relied on phonetic spelling quite a bit) These are the last two German lists to South Australia for 1857. Once again Robert has done a super job with these lists and has cross-checked the passengers from all the available information and databases. Still, we welcome any corrections or additional information from descendants, because sometimes the original documents can be dark or blurred, so hard to transcribe. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Please change my old e-mail address: dogwoodhil@townsqr.com to our new address: dogwoodhill@windstream.net Thanks, Micky Leake ------- Original Message ------- >From : theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com[mailto:theshipslist- request@rootsweb.com] Sent : 11/7/2010 1:01:14 AM To : theshipslist@rootsweb.com Cc : Subject : RE: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201 Today's Topics: 1. Ships that arrived NY Nov 1 1882 (Karen Hoy) 2. Re: Ships that arrived NY Nov 1 1882 (Sue Swiggum) 3. Re: Ships that arrived NY Nov 1 1882 (Karen Hoy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 17:12:58 -0400 Hello all, I am hoping you can help me find the arrival of my gg grandfather, William Allen. The place that he came from-most likely northern Ireland-is a mystery. I just found his naturalization papers and it says he arrived in New York 1 Nov 1882. (the census information had said they arrived in 1881) I would like to find the ship he was on, and haven't been successful through Castle Garden. Does anyone have access to ships arrivals by date, and can you see what ship came in to NY on Nov 1 that might have left Ireland, and then can you help me get the manifest? I'd like to see if there was family on the ship with him. William should have been around 58 when he arrived. His wife's name was Jane. Some of his daughters came to the US before he did, but there may have been a 10 year old with them-my great grandmother. All assistance is very welcome. Thanks so much, Karen Karen B. Hoy kbhoy@comcast.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:59:38 -0300 Hi Karen, Census records and also US Naturalizations for those who arrived prior to September 1906, through anecdotal reports from other reasearchers, are notoriously erroneous in regard to the to the actual YEAR of emigration ... it appears that the year itself was the most misremembered part of the date. The month or time-frame is usually fairly close, or as you mention, the November 1st date could refer to the emigration rather than the arrival month. Consider name misspellings too, eg. Allan rather than Allen. You also mention your 10 year old great grandmother, but you don't name her. It may be easier to find her rather than William. You don't say in what year he naturalized ; if it was a long time later there may be other things to consider, such as ... was it really at New York? ... where did they settle? There was no need for him to have to *prove* his arrival in order to naturalize, so "New York" might have been easier than trying to explain at which port he arrived. Just some things to consider, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 05:12 PM 2010-11-06 -0400, Karen Hoy wrote: >Hello all, > >I am hoping you can help me find the arrival of my gg grandfather, William >Allen. The place that he came from-most likely northern Ireland-is a >mystery. I just found his naturalization papers and it says he arrived in >New York 1 Nov 1882. (the census information had said they arrived in 1881) >I would like to find the ship he was on, and haven't been successful through >Castle Garden. Does anyone have access to ships arrivals by date, and can >you see what ship came in to NY on Nov 1 that might have left Ireland, and >then can you help me get the manifest? I'd like to see if there was family >on the ship with him. William should have been around 58 when he arrived. >His wife's name was Jane. > > > >Some of his daughters came to the US before he did, but there may have been >a 10 year old with them-my great grandmother. > > > >All assistance is very welcome. Thanks so much, > >Karen > > > >Karen B. Hoy > >kbhoy@comcast.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 22:41:50 -0400 Dear Sue, William Allen has been a challenge to find! My mother died when I was very young, and her parents were gone, so I have no family information to rely upon. Here's what I know...little as it is. ( and I do suspect that the spelling changed and the story/years were different). I know the family were members of the Church of Ireland, and were active in the Episcopal Church in Nanticoke, PA. (that's coal country). They identify themselves as being Irish (there was no Northern Ireland at the time) and cousins have said they were from the North. William's occupation is listed as laborer in the 1900 census. He was born in approximately 1824-1825. In PA in those days, the path to citizenship was three steps--the declaration, the intention and citizenship. Luzerne County, where Nanticoke is located, has lost the declarations of those people whose last names began with "A". I have the last two documents, which were filed months apart, in August and November, 1889 Nanticoke is in northeastern PA. It is equidistant from NY and Phila. It is probably that NY City was the port of entry. By 1882, when William entered this country, two of his daughters were living here, married with children. Two other daughters--Anna Belle and Louise or Lulu (my great grandmother)--may have come over then with them. William's wife's name was Jane Hamilton Allen. If there is a listing of ships which arrived in November, 1882 I would love to know how to find the ships by month and year. All assistance is most welcome. Karen -----Original Message----- Hi Karen, Census records and also US Naturalizations for those who arrived prior to September 1906, through anecdotal reports from other reasearchers, are notoriously erroneous in regard to the to the actual YEAR of emigration ... it appears that the year itself was the most misremembered part of the date. The month or time-frame is usually fairly close, or as you mention, the November 1st date could refer to the emigration rather than the arrival month. Consider name misspellings too, eg. Allan rather than Allen. You also mention your 10 year old great grandmother, but you don't name her. It may be easier to find her rather than William. You don't say in what year he naturalized ; if it was a long time later there may be other things to consider, such as ... was it really at New York? ... where did they settle? There was no need for him to have to *prove* his arrival in order to naturalize, so "New York" might have been easier than trying to explain at which port he arrived. Just some things to consider, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 05:12 PM 2010-11-06 -0400, Karen Hoy wrote: >Hello all, > >I am hoping you can help me find the arrival of my gg grandfather, William >Allen. The place that he came from-most likely northern Ireland-is a >mystery. I just found his naturalization papers and it says he arrived in >New York 1 Nov 1882. (the census information had said they arrived in 1881) >I would like to find the ship he was on, and haven't been successful through >Castle Garden. Does anyone have access to ships arrivals by date, and can >you see what ship came in to NY on Nov 1 that might have left Ireland, and >then can you help me get the manifest? I'd like to see if there was family >on the ship with him. William should have been around 58 when he arrived. >His wife's name was Jane. > > > >Some of his daughters came to the US before he did, but there may have been >a 10 year old with them-my great grandmother. > > > >All assistance is very welcome. Thanks so much, > >Karen > > > >Karen B. Hoy > >kbhoy@comcast.net ------------------------------ To contact the THESHIPSLIST list administrator, send an email to THESHIPSLIST-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the THESHIPSLIST mailing list, send an email to THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST- request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 201 ********************************************

Dear Sue, William Allen has been a challenge to find! My mother died when I was very young, and her parents were gone, so I have no family information to rely upon. Here's what I know...little as it is. ( and I do suspect that the spelling changed and the story/years were different). I know the family were members of the Church of Ireland, and were active in the Episcopal Church in Nanticoke, PA. (that's coal country). They identify themselves as being Irish (there was no Northern Ireland at the time) and cousins have said they were from the North. William's occupation is listed as laborer in the 1900 census. He was born in approximately 1824-1825. In PA in those days, the path to citizenship was three steps--the declaration, the intention and citizenship. Luzerne County, where Nanticoke is located, has lost the declarations of those people whose last names began with "A". I have the last two documents, which were filed months apart, in August and November, 1889 Nanticoke is in northeastern PA. It is equidistant from NY and Phila. It is probably that NY City was the port of entry. By 1882, when William entered this country, two of his daughters were living here, married with children. Two other daughters--Anna Belle and Louise or Lulu (my great grandmother)--may have come over then with them. William's wife's name was Jane Hamilton Allen. If there is a listing of ships which arrived in November, 1882 I would love to know how to find the ships by month and year. All assistance is most welcome. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Sue Swiggum [mailto:swig@ns.sympatico.ca] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 6:00 PM To: Karen Hoy; theshipslist@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TSL] Ships that arrived NY Nov 1 1882 Hi Karen, Census records and also US Naturalizations for those who arrived prior to September 1906, through anecdotal reports from other reasearchers, are notoriously erroneous in regard to the to the actual YEAR of emigration ... it appears that the year itself was the most misremembered part of the date. The month or time-frame is usually fairly close, or as you mention, the November 1st date could refer to the emigration rather than the arrival month. Consider name misspellings too, eg. Allan rather than Allen. You also mention your 10 year old great grandmother, but you don't name her. It may be easier to find her rather than William. You don't say in what year he naturalized ; if it was a long time later there may be other things to consider, such as ... was it really at New York? ... where did they settle? There was no need for him to have to *prove* his arrival in order to naturalize, so "New York" might have been easier than trying to explain at which port he arrived. Just some things to consider, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 05:12 PM 2010-11-06 -0400, Karen Hoy wrote: >Hello all, > >I am hoping you can help me find the arrival of my gg grandfather, William >Allen. The place that he came from-most likely northern Ireland-is a >mystery. I just found his naturalization papers and it says he arrived in >New York 1 Nov 1882. (the census information had said they arrived in 1881) >I would like to find the ship he was on, and haven't been successful through >Castle Garden. Does anyone have access to ships arrivals by date, and can >you see what ship came in to NY on Nov 1 that might have left Ireland, and >then can you help me get the manifest? I'd like to see if there was family >on the ship with him. William should have been around 58 when he arrived. >His wife's name was Jane. > > > >Some of his daughters came to the US before he did, but there may have been >a 10 year old with them-my great grandmother. > > > >All assistance is very welcome. Thanks so much, > >Karen > > > >Karen B. Hoy > >kbhoy@comcast.net

Hi Karen, Census records and also US Naturalizations for those who arrived prior to September 1906, through anecdotal reports from other reasearchers, are notoriously erroneous in regard to the to the actual YEAR of emigration ... it appears that the year itself was the most misremembered part of the date. The month or time-frame is usually fairly close, or as you mention, the November 1st date could refer to the emigration rather than the arrival month. Consider name misspellings too, eg. Allan rather than Allen. You also mention your 10 year old great grandmother, but you don't name her. It may be easier to find her rather than William. You don't say in what year he naturalized ; if it was a long time later there may be other things to consider, such as ... was it really at New York? ... where did they settle? There was no need for him to have to *prove* his arrival in order to naturalize, so "New York" might have been easier than trying to explain at which port he arrived. Just some things to consider, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 05:12 PM 2010-11-06 -0400, Karen Hoy wrote: >Hello all, > >I am hoping you can help me find the arrival of my gg grandfather, William >Allen. The place that he came from-most likely northern Ireland-is a >mystery. I just found his naturalization papers and it says he arrived in >New York 1 Nov 1882. (the census information had said they arrived in 1881) >I would like to find the ship he was on, and haven't been successful through >Castle Garden. Does anyone have access to ships arrivals by date, and can >you see what ship came in to NY on Nov 1 that might have left Ireland, and >then can you help me get the manifest? I'd like to see if there was family >on the ship with him. William should have been around 58 when he arrived. >His wife's name was Jane. > > > >Some of his daughters came to the US before he did, but there may have been >a 10 year old with them-my great grandmother. > > > >All assistance is very welcome. Thanks so much, > >Karen > > > >Karen B. Hoy > >kbhoy@comcast.net

Hello all, I am hoping you can help me find the arrival of my gg grandfather, William Allen. The place that he came from-most likely northern Ireland-is a mystery. I just found his naturalization papers and it says he arrived in New York 1 Nov 1882. (the census information had said they arrived in 1881) I would like to find the ship he was on, and haven't been successful through Castle Garden. Does anyone have access to ships arrivals by date, and can you see what ship came in to NY on Nov 1 that might have left Ireland, and then can you help me get the manifest? I'd like to see if there was family on the ship with him. William should have been around 58 when he arrived. His wife's name was Jane. Some of his daughters came to the US before he did, but there may have been a 10 year old with them-my great grandmother. All assistance is very welcome. Thanks so much, Karen Karen B. Hoy kbhoy@comcast.net

I am looking for help of how I can find the Shipping Register for Fremantle W.A. 1851-1852 Hoping to find when the "Anna Dixon" first arrived in W.A. Also where would I be able to find if the "Anna Dixon" went to Swan River & King George Sound. I am following a Mr Simms who was on the "Endeavor" cutter which was in Adelaide Jan 1853 Thank you Nan in Adelaide still searching for G.Grand Father Joseph Simms

Hi Allan, "Norwegian American Line" by Pedersen and Hawks states that in Feb.1946 she was chartered for one voyage to carry GI brides from Europe to the USA and then returned to NAL. It seems she only did the one brides voyage. Suggest you contact Debbie Beavis at marine@beavis.co.uk She has a lot of info on GI brides. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aejordan@aol.com> To: <TheShipsList@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:44 AM Subject: [TSL] Bergensfjord - doing brides service? > > I am looking for information about the Norwegian passenger ship > Bergensfjord which was operated during World War II by the British. I > know her > history and details till World War II. > > In February 1946 it appears she was chartered to the USA to do brides > service. I am trying to find any information about when she operated and > where > she operated. I tried a search of The New York Times but their is no > mentions. Are there any sources tracking the ships that did Brides' > Service at > the end of World War II? > > The only mention if find is the Bergensfjord being involved in a riot with > Jamaican veterans being repeated to Jamaica in May 1946. Then in August > 1946 the ship is sold to new owners. > > Any ideas on how to fill in her history from the end of the War until she > was sold in August 1946? > > Thanks > > Allan Jordan > > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3234 - Release Date: 11/02/10 19:34:00

I am looking for information about the Norwegian passenger ship Bergensfjord which was operated during World War II by the British. I know her history and details till World War II. In February 1946 it appears she was chartered to the USA to do brides service. I am trying to find any information about when she operated and where she operated. I tried a search of The New York Times but their is no mentions. Are there any sources tracking the ships that did Brides' Service at the end of World War II? The only mention if find is the Bergensfjord being involved in a riot with Jamaican veterans being repeated to Jamaica in May 1946. Then in August 1946 the ship is sold to new owners. Any ideas on how to fill in her history from the end of the War until she was sold in August 1946? Thanks Allan Jordan

I am looking for Thomas Condon who was an United Empire Loyalist who sailed with the Fall Fleet that left the United States for New Brunswick in September of 1783. He was given land grants in New Brunswick in 1783 and 1784 etc. Does anyone know the names of ships that sailed in this Fall Fleet and the passenger lists for the same? Thanks for any help you can give me, Carol

I am after some information on a crew member of the *George Henderson * - built at Pugwash about 1858. The individual I am seeking information on is Richard LEADBETTER. If any listers have connections to, or information about Richard, or the vessel, I would be pleased to hear from you. Anne -- Anne PICKETTS Waipu, NZ NZSG #5331; KFHS #6151 Also at: <anne@waipumuseum.com>

Am looking for an Herbert Maurice Feldbauer, born 1901, who came to NZ from England between that date and 1930 approximately. Changed his name to FIELD later on. His father was Maurice Feldbauer, born 1865, Vienna. His mother Elizabeth Jeanette Feldbauer, (nee Burton). Would like to know the ship they came to NZ on. Any other ideas of places to find this information? Thanks June Castle, NZ

I just saw this, I would be thinking RailRoad <G> to get to Baltimore HOWEVER <G. I checked Baltimore passenger lists and it shows "A" Russia landing in 29 June and 6 Aug and 22 September, I have 5 more pages to go to see if they had that arrival as well. But surely it wouldn't take them until 29 June to get there, or is a passenger list missing, or is Marj right and they did a quick turn around? Eliz On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:20 PM, <nj55turtle@comcast.net> wrote: > > > The SS Russia, arrived in NYC on May 9, 1890.  The manifest notes a number of passengers are going to Baltimore, Md. > > > > Question #1;  I have not been able to find out if the SS Russia ever docked in Baltimore, Md., after it left NYC? > > Question #2;  If it went to Baltimore, is there a list of passengers that got off there? > > > > Steve Pickholtz > > New Jersey > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, Thanks. I figured that somehow at least some of my family may have taken the Erie Canal and that is why I was wondering if there were any existing passenger records for my time period. What is kind of funny is that I have this family in Outagamie County, WI and in Co Tipperary, Ireland with baptismal records and all, but can not find any record of them in between - neither emmigrating nor living and working in NY for a time "while they earned money to move on the WI". There were at least two children born in NY about 1851 - but I don't know where. I am amazed that you have found specific families and how they traveled to Wisconsin. Anyway, this helps and thanks again. Sandy On 10/31/2010 2:14 PM, Kathy wrote: > Sandra J Hawley wrote: >> my Irish ancestors didn't come to the US until 1847-1854. I am just >> trying to figure out which route they may have taken from NY to >> Wisconsin. > > I've researched many families who settled in Wisconsin in that time > period. All arrived in New York, with one excepton (Boston). Given that > there weren't any long-distance trains yet (e.g., from NY to Chicago), > by far the most common route was to take the Erie Canal, then a steamer > across the Great Lakes. Sometimes passengers departed in Detroit, took a > train across Michigan, and then a steamer across Lake Michigan to > Milwaukee or another port. This was primarily post-1850 when the > railroad crossed the entire state of Michigan. Otherwise passsengers > could continue on northward through Lake Huron and then southward > through Lake Michigan, where the steamer stopped at several ports, > ending up at Chicago. > > There are a lot of websites that describe the trip or provide > first-person accounts. Here are a couple: > http://www.norwayheritage.com/articles/templates/great-disasters.asp?articleid=33&zoneid=1 > > http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/eriecanal.htm > You can find pictures of Great Lakes steamers here: > http://www.bgsu.edu/colleges/library/cac/page38714.html > > Good luck! > Kathy > >

Hi Sandy, If you haven't found them arriving at New York, then they may very well have arrived via Quebec, Canada. No real joy there either, as Canada did not begin to archive passenger lists before 1867. Some scattered records do survive, but they are really only a drop in the bucket considering the hundreds of thousands who arrived via Quebec, during that period. Total Emigration from the United Kingdom from 1815 to 1870. http://www.theshipslist.com/Forms/EmigFromUK1815_1870.htm Canadian Records http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm TheShipsList Resource Links http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/Resource.htm Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ At 10:30 AM 2010-10-31 -0700, Sandra J Hawley wrote: >I am afraid that Erie Canal passenger lists from 1827 to 1829 won't help >me as my Irish ancestors didn't come to the US until 1847-1854. I am >just trying to figure out which route they may have taken from NY to >Wisconsin. I have searched all the NY passenger lists, but have nothing >conclusive so far. >Thanks for your help. >Sandy > >On 10/30/2010 8:00 PM, Kathy wrote: > > Sandra J Hawley wrote: > >> Are there any Erie Canal passenger lists? > > Beginning in 1820 the U.S. federal government began to regulate > > passenger ships arriving in U.S. ports, requiring that they keep > > passenger lists, in part to alleviate overcrowding. This is why > > passenger lists for travel from Europe were created. The federal > > government has no authority to regulate intra-state travel, so those > > regulations did not apply to the Erie Canal. New York State required > > Erie Canal passenger lists from 1827 to 1829, and those are available at > > the New York State Archives: > > http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_trans_recrds_list.shtml > > > > Good luck! > > Kathy

Hi everyone, There is a new database online that will be of interest to those seeking ancestors who arrived in Upper Canada in 1825. The new project is the extraction of names from Surgeons Medical Journals which were kept during the voyages of 8 ships sailing from England to Quebec carrying impoverished Irish settlers . There are medical journals for 8 ships and they contain a great deal of information. Olive Tree Genealogy's project contains extracted details of the voyage, the names and ages of each passenger treated by the surgeon, the date they were put on the sick list, where the ship was at the time and the date they recovered or died. Births of children are also recorded as are deaths, sometimes with details as to exact time and location. Go to http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/canada/PeterRobinson.shtml or use the shorter URL http://bit.ly/a3ERA4 The medical journals are not passenger lists, they are the Sick Bay journals kept in great detail for the sick and dying (and pregnant women in labour). You will want to consult these extracts if you think your Irish ancestors were on board the following ships: * Surgeon's Journal of the Transport Ship John Barry between 22 April to 25 July 1825 * Surgeon's Journal of the Transport Ship Amity between 5 April to 9 July 1825 * Surgeon's Journal of the Transport Ship Elizabeth between 4 May 1825 & 21st July 1825 * Medical and surgical journal of the Star transport ship for 6 April to 13 July 1825 by Ninian McMorris, Surgeon , * Medical and surgical journal of the Regulus transport ship for 7 April to 13 July 1825 by Matthew Burnside, Surgeon * Medical and surgical journal of the Fortitude Emigrant Ship for 28 April to 1 July 1825 by Francis Connin, Surgeon * Medical journal of the Brunswick, emigrant ship, for 5 April to 27 June 1825 by John Tarn surgeon * Medical and surgical journal of the Albion Convict Ship, for 4 April to 4 July 1825 by John Thomson Surgeon , The surgeons' journals contain much detail both on the illnesses of each passenger and on the journey itself. Some surgeons recorded their thoughts about certain passengers so they are a very interesting read. Each journal extract is also linked to Sue Swiggum's list of passengers for those 8 ships as found in other resources. So you can follow the links to compare names and gather more details on each person named. The journals are discussed on my blog and you can also follow the links from yesterday's blog post at http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com Have fun! Lorine Follow my genealogy updates on Twitter http://twitter.com/LorineMS Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com

I am afraid that Erie Canal passenger lists from 1827 to 1829 won't help me as my Irish ancestors didn't come to the US until 1847-1854. I am just trying to figure out which route they may have taken from NY to Wisconsin. I have searched all the NY passenger lists, but have nothing conclusive so far. Thanks for your help. Sandy On 10/30/2010 8:00 PM, Kathy wrote: > Sandra J Hawley wrote: >> Are there any Erie Canal passenger lists? > Beginning in 1820 the U.S. federal government began to regulate > passenger ships arriving in U.S. ports, requiring that they keep > passenger lists, in part to alleviate overcrowding. This is why > passenger lists for travel from Europe were created. The federal > government has no authority to regulate intra-state travel, so those > regulations did not apply to the Erie Canal. New York State required > Erie Canal passenger lists from 1827 to 1829, and those are available at > the New York State Archives: > http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_trans_recrds_list.shtml > > Good luck! > Kathy > ------------------------------- > visit TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >