Hi Mary Anne, At 06:46 PM 2006-04-24 -0400, A. S. Mackenzie & M. A. Sharpe wrote: >I have an old trunk that belonged to my great great grandmother, who lived >in Canada between 1844 and 1943, and possibly also to her Mother, who was >born in Ireland, emigrated to Canada and died in 1892, aged about 90. The >trunk is a plain wooden box, really, lined with zinc, and with iron hinges >and straps on the outside, the whole painted black, and with the following >stencilled on the lid: > >"H.S. Ireland" > >I am not sure whether this may have been a transatlantic ship, or one that >was used on the Great Lakes. I would be grateful for any information >anyone might have about a ship called the Ireland. What does "H.S." stand >for, anyone know? I would be inclined to think it was someones initials ? I wonder if the trunk was a food-chest which emigrants used to have to carry for long transatlantic voyages ? This is a link to Norway Heritage site (in English) http://www.norwayheritage.com/articles/templates/voyages.asp?articleid=20&zoneid=6 The first picture shows emigrants below deck, with one sitting on an initialed chest. If you scroll down further to "Food and drink" you see a photograph of a beautiful "Rosemåled" Chest, which was used for that purpose. Just a guess. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi I'm looking for John TREVASKISS or various spellings Born stepney london circa 1812/1819 married Ann Braby from Anglesey in Lpool who was in various census Seamon Shipping agent or Channel Pilot can anyone help Cheers George

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At 06:46 PM 2006-04-24 -0700, robin mullaney wrote: >I'm looking for ancestors who came over from Sligo Ireland in 1869. There >are ports in Sligo Ireland but I never see a ship list/manifest from >there. I mostly see ships from Liverpool via Queenstown or Limerick or >Glasgow. Has anyone ever seen a ship list from a Sligo port? Hi Robin, As Harry noted, by 1869 even if an individual came from Sligo, it is highly unlikely they sailed from that port. I agree that Londonderry would be the most likely port of departure for people from Sligo in 1869. As Harry also noted, there were several place names for departure from different parts of that area . . . <<Moville/Lough Foyle/ Derry/Londonderry>> You don't say where your ancestors were sailing to . . or where they settled, but for instance, in 1869 there were 32 direct sailings from Liverpool via Londonderry, to Quebec, Canada. If you are interested in the port of Sligo itself, if you go to http://www.theshipslist.com/ scroll to the bottom of the page and type Sligo into the search box, you'll find 63+ pages where that name appears. either on a passenger list or a newspaper report &c. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Now that I have established that my Priban Great Grandparents arrived in New York on the Bark Olbers out of Bremen in 1867, I would like to read more about the living conditions aboard these ships. I read mega amounts about my Italian Grandparents voyage and their Ellis Island experience, but nothing about the sailing ships. Please tell me what sites and books would be best. dolores desideri Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, Janecek, and Antos.

Hi Robin: The Sligo "Research" Library, has a List of all ships that sailed from the port of Sligo. Unfortunately, you must go to the library and look at the list. You can take notes, but they won't let you copy it. Please note, this is the Research Library, and NOT the regular library. I was able to get a summary of all the ships leaving Sligo, during the time frame I was interested in, and by the process of elimination, and the help of an Obituary that said the person left 6 weeks after she was born ( I was able to get her baptism info from Drumcliff Parish Register). There was only 1 ship leaving Sligo, during the dates I had established. Thus, even though there was not a passenger list for the ship, I am reasonably confident it was the correct ship. Regards Jim White Naples, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Dodsworth" <af877@freenet.carleton.ca> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: [TSL] Re: Sligo Ports & Ships - 1869 > > robin mullaney <rcay1414@sbcglobal.net> posted: >>> > I'm looking for ancestors who came over from Sligo Ireland in 1869. > There are ports in Sligo Ireland but I never see a ship list/manifest > from there. I mostly see ships from Liverpool via Queenstown or > Limerick or Glasgow. Has anyone ever seen a ship list from a Sligo port? >>> > > Limerick (particularly) and Sligo were important ports of emigration > when small sailing ships were used. However these ended by about 1850. > Larger sailing ships usually sailed from Liverpool or a major Irish port. >>From 1860 onwards steamships tended to sail from Liverpool or Glasgow > and make an Irish stop at Queenstown (Cork) or Moville/Lough Foyle/ > Derry/Londonderry. I would think Londonderry was a likely port for Sligo > people in 1869. > I see a few sailing ships from Limerick noted in New York arrivals when > I'm reading the New York Times (1850s) but there are very few. > > -- > Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

On 24 Apr 2006 at 18:46, robin mullaney wrote: > I'm looking for ancestors who came over from Sligo Ireland > in 1869. There are ports in Sligo Ireland but I never see a > ship list/manifest from there. I mostly see ships from > Liverpool via Queenstown or Limerick or Glasgow. Has anyone > ever seen a ship list from a Sligo port? > > Yep. Here's a few online http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jefferson1803.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/rachel1803.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ny_alms1822.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1820-1850.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ny_alms1824.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ny_alms1825.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/18-19p01a.shtml http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ny_alms1820.shtml There are dozens more on Olive Tree Genealogy. Just poke around til find them or look for SLIGO in the search box bottom of the page -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Dear Fellow Listers. I am a new boy, new to your list but not to age Big Grin. I am trying to gather the info on two ancestors who came to Australia in 1888, and 1897 respectively, they are: William LOFTUS, who arrived I think on the Bayard at Adelaide S.A, on or about 6 Oct 1888, having left from Greenock on 21 June 1888. And Albert AKA Roger LOFTUS arrived Australia 1897 ship not known. Can anyone please help me? Take Care. Roger B Bradford, Of Elizabeth, South Australia. Ps: My web page may be of interest: www.miningtmodels.netfirms.com

robin mullaney <rcay1414@sbcglobal.net> posted: >> I'm looking for ancestors who came over from Sligo Ireland in 1869. There are ports in Sligo Ireland but I never see a ship list/manifest from there. I mostly see ships from Liverpool via Queenstown or Limerick or Glasgow. Has anyone ever seen a ship list from a Sligo port? >> Limerick (particularly) and Sligo were important ports of emigration when small sailing ships were used. However these ended by about 1850. Larger sailing ships usually sailed from Liverpool or a major Irish port. From 1860 onwards steamships tended to sail from Liverpool or Glasgow and make an Irish stop at Queenstown (Cork) or Moville/Lough Foyle/ Derry/Londonderry. I would think Londonderry was a likely port for Sligo people in 1869. I see a few sailing ships from Limerick noted in New York arrivals when I'm reading the New York Times (1850s) but there are very few. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

On 24 Apr 2006 at 18:16, mark o'donnell wrote: > Does anyone have access to ship passenger lists? We are > trying to find out if a James(22) & Elizabeth Abigail > Watson(20) from Liverpool went to America in 1840. They > married in July 1840 in Liverpool but arent on the 1841 > census. You can search microfilms. Most states are indexed, so this will make your job slightly easier. You can order films in to a nearby Family History Centre, or have NARA do the job (once you have precise details) Once you know your state, you can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link, then find the film # you need The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee To find your nearest FHC you can go to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp There are some ideas for researching hard to find ancestors on ships lists after 1820 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/usaaft1820.shtml You might want to consult naturalization records. See http://naturalizationrecords.com/ for online records and a resource guide to offline records. -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

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Have now discovered that my Great Grandfather Percy William Allard and his wife Lizzie (Elizabeth) sailed to Canada in 1920 from the UK. Their Immigration Form 30A Ocean Arrivals 1919 - 1924 (RG 76 C1j) is probably on microfilm reference T-14942. Would love to find out From which Port to which Port, and when in 1920, and of course Ships Name. Any assistance very much appreciated indeed Graham Allard

I have an old trunk that belonged to my great great grandmother, who lived in Canada between 1844 and 1943, and possibly also to her Mother, who was born in Ireland, emigrated to Canada and died in 1892, aged about 90. The trunk is a plain wooden box, really, lined with zinc, and with iron hinges and straps on the outside, the whole painted black, and with the following stencilled on the lid: "H.S. Ireland" I am not sure whether this may have been a transatlantic ship, or one that was used on the Great Lakes. I would be grateful for any information anyone might have about a ship called the Ireland. What does "H.S." stand for, anyone know? Thanks in advance Mary Anne Sharpe Ottawa, Canada

I'm looking for ancestors who came over from Sligo Ireland in 1869. There are ports in Sligo Ireland but I never see a ship list/manifest from there. I mostly see ships from Liverpool via Queenstown or Limerick or Glasgow. Has anyone ever seen a ship list from a Sligo port?

Does anyone have access to ship passenger lists? We are trying to find out if a James(22) & Elizabeth Abigail Watson(20) from Liverpool went to America in 1840. They married in July 1840 in Liverpool but arent on the 1841 census. We think they left the country but dont know where. His brother commited suicide 6 days after the wedding as he loved his brothers wife and not his own(her sister!!) They must have fled and we want to know where. Mark/Ali

Just a guess so far, Mary Anne, since I don't have anything but the Internet for research here at home, but mighten "H.S." stand for "Hiberian Ship," if she were Irish owned? Like I said, a guess, but I plan to look into it tomorrow at work. Bryce "A. S. Mackenzie & M. A. Sharpe" <asmmas@sympatico.ca> wrote: I have an old trunk that belonged to my great great grandmother, who lived in Canada between 1844 and 1943, and possibly also to her Mother, who was born in Ireland, emigrated to Canada and died in 1892, aged about 90. The trunk is a plain wooden box, really, lined with zinc, and with iron hinges and straps on the outside, the whole painted black, and with the following stencilled on the lid: "H.S. Ireland" I am not sure whether this may have been a transatlantic ship, or one that was used on the Great Lakes. I would be grateful for any information anyone might have about a ship called the Ireland. What does "H.S." stand for, anyone know? Thanks in advance Mary Anne Sharpe Ottawa, Canada --------------------------------- Upon hearing that his cousin George V had changed the name of the British royal family to Windsor, Kaiser Wilhelm II remarked that he planned to see Shakespeare;s play, The Merry Wives of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

I would like to know the name of the ship that carried Edward Crew from England to Maryland. I understand it was his own vessel. He had his family with him. He came to Maryland abt 1703. Is there a way of finding private ships that would have landed in Baltimore before going on. He came to the Eastern Shore of Md. and is listed in the Kent Cty census. Delores C Jones dcj@dmv.com

Hi, I was wonder if there was anyone on this site who had access to a picture or painting of the Bark Canton. She arrived from Belfast, Ireland on August 1 1849 at Castle Garden with my Great Great Grandmother on board. I have read the she may have been built in Baltimore in 1835 but this has not been confirmed. Martha Donelly Occupation Spinster Age 20 Sex F Literacy U Arrived 1 Aug 1849 Origin Ireland Port Belfast Last Residence U Destination USA Plan Unknown Ship Canton Passage Unknown This ship is also documented as making a trip shortly thereafter to California. Thank you in advance, Lana in N.B. daba @ rogers . com

Hello Dolores, I cannot find a picture of the OLBERS built 1863 and am doubtful if any exist. However if you go to http://www.pictureaustralia.org/apps/pictureaustralia and enter barque into the search box, it will produce many photos of 3 masted barques. Click on photos to enlarge. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "dolores desideri" <ddesideri@earthlink.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: [TSL] drawing/paintings Bremen Bark Olbers > My Great Grandfather and his family immigrated on the Bremen Bark Olbers > in 1867. > > Are there any drawings, paintings of the Olbers or of a similar ship. I > would like my include a picture of some sort in my family's history > scrapbook - especially for the young people. > > > dolores desideri > > Looking for: Desideri, Innocenti, Lupori, Lenzi, Priban, Preban, Janecek, > and Antos. > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > >

Bryce Rumbles <brycerumbles@yahoo.com> posted: >> The Castle Garden website (www.castlegarden.org) has the Dankbaarheid listed under that name, but surprisingly does not list what company owned her. >> In 1846 ships were often owned by single owners or partnerships. The practice of shipping lines being owned by many stockholders developed later. Many of the American packet lines, Black Star Line, Red Cross Line etc, did not own all their ships but chartered them as needed. I can't help with info on the Dankbaarheid; for New York Arrivals I use The New York Times (began publication in Sept. 1851) and the registers on the Mystic Seaport site (earliest 1857). -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------