Pat If you just type Mount Pelee in the subject line, you will get some info on it. Apparently, there were only two surviors. Didn't mention anyone else. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com To: TheShipsList-D@rootsweb.com Subject: TheShipsList-D Digest V06 #148 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 10:00:22 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain TheShipsList-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 148 Today's Topics: #1 BAYARD PASSENGER LIST ["Roger Baden Bradford" <ged19340@b] #2 Query [Pat Ruddell <pdr@wow.net>] #3 Louis Arthur Owens [Candida Owens - Simmonds Ltd <cand] Administrivia: TheShipsList Digest is distributed by RootsWeb. RootsWeb's home page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/ To UNSUBSCRIBE from TheShipsList Digest, click on the following link. mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Leave Subject Line BLANK and type ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of message. Do NOT include your name, address or any other text in the message. To POST a Message to the members of the list, which will be included in TheShipsList Digest, click on this link: mailto:TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com To REPLY to a Message in THIS Digest: When you hit "Reply To" in your email program, remember to 'edit' the rest of the messages. Change the subject line to reflect the topic. "TheShipsList-D Digest V03 #**" is meaningless. Remember, your subject line is your "head-line". If in doubt, it is better to copy/paste the message you are responding to, into a new email message. Search our Archives to see if your Ship has been discussed before you joined. TheShipsList RootsWeb Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ TheShipsList fully Searchable Archives http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ To contact listowners click on link below: mailto:TheShipsList-admin@rootsweb.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 06:54:00 +0930 From: "Roger Baden Bradford" <ged19340@bigpond.net.au> To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003401c66fc1$0ffc44c0$0100000a@midi> Subject: BAYARD PASSENGER LIST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Listers I am trying to find the Passenger List for the voyage of the Bayard 3 Masted Barque from Greenock to Adelaide South Australia departing Greenock 21 July 1888, arriving Adelaide 4 Oct 1888, My Ancester William Loftus b 1866 Walworth Surrey, is I hope a passenger on the Bayard, can any one please help me. Take Care. Roger B Bradford, Of Elizabeth, South Australia. ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 21:12:25 -0300 From: Pat Ruddell <pdr@wow.net> To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.1.6.1.20060504211130.00b16ed0@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Query Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm searching for an eyewitness account by a British Naval officer who was on board a naval vessel anchored at St Pierre in Martinique on May 8th 1902. He wrote, in considerable detail of the horrific events of the day, when Mont Pelee erupted and the town of St Pierre was wiped out - some 29000 died. Now I know this acount exists. I came across it in a collection of material on volcanoes published in a folder around 1975 (??) I don't know who was the publisher, but I do recall that the name given to series (there were many such folders on a wide range of topics) was 'Jachdaw' Can you assist in any way? I've Googled, without success - but it's hard to know what to ask for! I write in hope Pat Ruddell ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 10:45:42 -0300 From: Candida Owens - Simmonds Ltd <candida.owens@btinternet.com> (Metal Trading) To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <5.1.1.6.1.20060505104446.00b16e00@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: Louis Arthur Owens Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear Sirs, I am trying to find information on the web about my grand father, Cmdr Louis Arthur Owens of the Orient Steam Navigation Co. I would be very grateful if you could direct me to a web-site that might give me some information on him. He was knighted for services during the evacuation of Singapore during the second world war. I would greatly appreciate you help. Thank you. Kind regards Candida Owens

Dear Sirs, I am trying to find information on the web about my grand father, Cmdr Louis Arthur Owens of the Orient Steam Navigation Co. I would be very grateful if you could direct me to a web-site that might give me some information on him. He was knighted for services during the evacuation of Singapore during the second world war. I would greatly appreciate you help. Thank you. Kind regards Candida Owens

Dear Listers I am trying to find the Passenger List for the voyage of the Bayard 3 Masted Barque from Greenock to Adelaide South Australia departing Greenock 21 July 1888, arriving Adelaide 4 Oct 1888, My Ancester William Loftus b 1866 Walworth Surrey, is I hope a passenger on the Bayard, can any one please help me. Take Care. Roger B Bradford, Of Elizabeth, South Australia.

I'm searching for an eyewitness account by a British Naval officer who was on board a naval vessel anchored at St Pierre in Martinique on May 8th 1902. He wrote, in considerable detail of the horrific events of the day, when Mont Pelee erupted and the town of St Pierre was wiped out - some 29000 died. Now I know this acount exists. I came across it in a collection of material on volcanoes published in a folder around 1975 (??) I don't know who was the publisher, but I do recall that the name given to series (there were many such folders on a wide range of topics) was 'Jachdaw' Can you assist in any way? I've Googled, without success - but it's hard to know what to ask for! I write in hope Pat Ruddell

Dear Sir, Am trying to find where the Danish ship Tjaldur sailed to from 1920 to 1925. Barnet (Barney) Goodman was a crew member and may have jumped ship in Australia about 1925. Thank You, (Mrs) Chris Hough New Zealand.

Hello, Looking for the ship list for the Rowand. It left from Rotterdam sailed to Charleston. Andrew and Margareta Keller, with son Devault age 6 year 1755 or about. Looking for what town they came from in Germany Thanks Phyllis Keller

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Thank you very much Lorine; I appreciate your information and help. Ernie

At 09:23 AM 2006-05-03 +0100, ANNE POUNTAIN wrote: >My apologies to anyone who may have been able to help me the measage >should have read. Ships and Passenger list for ships that sailed from >Ireland for Manitoba Canada after April 1906. > > Anne Uk Hi Anne, Are you able to add any more details ? name(s), age(s), from where in Ireland? As Lorine says, those records aren't indexed yet, but we might be able to help narrow the number of microfilms to read. Do you know which port they may have arrived . . did they arrive _before_ a certain date? There were some ships which stopped at Liverpool - Belfast to Canada, but later in the year. Most sailed Liverpool & Glasgow - Londonderry, to Halifax, St. John and Quebec (Quebec was the *summer* port* . .first 1906 arrival in late April). Canada destined passengers also arrived via US ports, like New York and Boston . . from Liverpool - Londonderry ; Glasgow - Londonderry ; Liverpool - Queenstown. What does the 1906 Prairie census say ? (I'm not sure whan it was taken) http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census06/index.html http://www.afhs.ab.ca/data/census/1906/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

On 2 May 2006 at 12:21, Sandy Morrey wrote: > > I read that the name of the ship was the "Sailboat", and it > arrived Baltimore 18 June 1827. The passengers should > include Robert Morrey/Morry and Joseph and Isabella > Bradfield and their children, at least Sarah Bradfield. I > found the following quote: > > "Passenger Arrivals at Port of Baltimore 1820-1834" R Morry. > Before June 30, 1827 came to US on Sailboat met Bradfields > of Yorkshire on board (also listed) went to Toronto, > Georgetown, Washington DC Landed 18 June 1827." > > This will be available on microfilm. You can see the passenger list for yourself, check who else was on board and verify the ship name. For a list of Film Numbers for Ships to Maryland, after 1820, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_baltmd.shtml For online Ships to Maryland see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_md.shtml If you want to search multiple websites at once for passenger lists, there is a custom search engine for Ships going to Maryland at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchmdships.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

On 3 May 2006 at 10:54, Kinfind@aol.com wrote: > Is there an Index of "Germans to Canada" available? I > wondered if it may be similar to Glazier & Philby's > "Germans to America"? Nope. > > I am searching for Friederich Edward Schneider b. about 1820 > and his wife Henrietta Drews Schneider b. about 1824 who > emigrated from area of Strelkau, Lippusch and Berent, > Prussia we believe about 1882 to 1885. That after archiving of lists began in Canada so there's some hope... Funnily enough, I just posted this identical message earlier today. The National Archives of Canada (NAC) holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. Unfortunately the records before 1925 are not indexed. To find a passenger you will need to know an exact date of arrival. There is no easy way to search Canadian arrival records for this unindexed period other than reading microfilm Ships are on the reel, in order of arrival. You can find the details at this URL http://www.archives.ca/02/020202_e.html If you want to order filmed passenger lists (remember they aren't indexed!), a list of NAC microfilm numbers for passenger lists to Canada 1865-1922 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_can1865.shtml If you want to try your luck searching transcribed ships passenger lists online, passenger lists for Ships to Canada after 1865 are freely available at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp05.shtml You can also try TheShipsList.com at http://www.theshipslist.com/ They have been indexing arrivals from Newspapers and have many passenger lists online There are search engines to search online free databases on multiple websites for ships to Canada at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml The Ontario Archives has just put a new database online - an index to the assisted immigration registers created by the Toronto Emigrant Office between 1865 and 1883. The registers are a chronological listing of those new immigrants who were assisted by the government to travel to many different destinations across southern Ontario. Over 29,000 entries have been transcribed from the registers. http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm Good luck! -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi Listers; Thanks for all your help in the past. Is there an Index of "Germans to Canada" available? I wondered if it may be similar to Glazier & Philby's "Germans to America"? I am searching for Friederich Edward Schneider b. about 1820 and his wife Henrietta Drews Schneider b. about 1824 who emigrated from area of Strelkau, Lippusch and Berent, Prussia we believe about 1882 to 1885. Family members included Albertine Carolina b. 1844, Henrietta Friedereke b. 1846, Ferdinand Albert b. 1848, Wilhelmina Caroline b. 1849, Emilie Friedereke b. 1851, John Frederick b. 1854, August Herman b. 1862, and Rudolph Alexander b. 1863. The family lived in Detroit, MI (Edward, Henrietta and Rudolph et al 1886 to 1894, later) and Port Huron, MI (August and family 1888 to 1900, later). Firstborn Albertine Carolina Schneider born 1844 married Carl Hochleitner and had a child in Port Huron, MI in 1874. Carl Hochleitner arrived July 12, 1869, on board ship Smidt at New York from Bremen. Albertine (Schneider nor Hochleitner) was not on board this 1869 arrival. My extensive searches in Germans to America, and Steve Morse at ports up the Atlantic coast have turned up nothing solid, other than solid frustration. The family could have arrived in Canada and then traveled west by train to cross the St. Clair River at Port Huron, or at Sarnia to Detroit. I appreciate your advice very much....... Thanking you all in advance, Ernie

On 3 May 2006 at 9:23, ANNE POUNTAIN wrote: > My apologies to anyone who may have been able to help me the > measage should have read. Ships and Passenger list for > ships that sailed from Ireland for Manitoba Canada after > April 1906. > Manitoba is a prairie province (land locked, no sea ports) so no ships sailed there. You will need to look at ports of arrival elsewhere in Canada The National Archives of Canada (NAC) holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. Ships are on the reel, in order of arrival. You can find the details at this URL http://www.archives.ca/02/020202_e.html Unfortunately the records before 1925 are not indexed. To find a passenger you will need to know an exact date of arrival. There is no easy way to search Canadian arrival records for this unindexed period other than reading microfilm If you want to order filmed passenger lists (remember they aren't indexed!), a list of NAC microfilm numbers for passenger lists to Canada 1865-1922 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_can1865.shtml If you want to try your luck searching transcribed ships passenger lists online, passenger lists for Ships to Canada after 1865 are freely available at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp05.shtml You can also try TheShipsList.com at http://www.theshipslist.com/ They have been indexing arrivals from Newspapers and have many passenger lists online Good luck! Lorine --New Databases online http://olivetreegenealogy.com/freedata.shtml

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My apologies to anyone who may have been able to help me the measage should have read. Ships and Passenger list for ships that sailed from Ireland for Manitoba Canada after April 1906. Anne Uk

Please can anyone tell me how to find ships and passenger lists for ships that sailed from Ireland to Manitoba Canada after April 1910. Thank you Anne Uk

Looking for RM ship Durango R.Weedon

Thanks to all for the great information about this sailing of the Olympic. It was just last week [April 23] that I asked Sue for information on this sailing off list. I am researching the war brides of WW1 and am currently reading "Lone Cone" by Dorothy Abraham. It is great to have the extra information. What a coincidence! Annette

Gary wrote: >I am seeking information on the route of the "City of San Francisco" >during her short career as well as information per >her sinking under the command of Capt. James I. Waddell. An account of the career of the SS City of San Francisco can be found on the web pages of The Maritime Heritage Project at _http://www.maritimeheritage.org/ships/ss.html_ (http://www.maritimeheritage.org/ships/ss.html) She was wrecked on May 16, 1877, off the Tartar Shoal, near Acapulco, Mexico. There is also the possibility that the holdings at NARA's Pacific Region (San Francisco) may have a reference to the City of San Francisco in their collection of Wreck Reports. Send an email to _sanbruno.archives@nara.gov_ (mailto:sanbruno.archives@nara.gov) . and provide the particulars including your contact information. The wreck reports for the California coast cover the years from 1874 through 1935. These form reports often include the date of the incident; the nationality, name, tonnage, and age of the vessel; port of registry; official number; name and residence of master and owner; port of departure and date; where bound; number of passengers and crew; names of persons lost; estimated value of cargo and vessel; estimated loss and damage; amount of insurance; nature of casualty and location (not precise coordinates). Each volume is indexed alphabetically and covers a certain span of years. Because of the location of the wreck of the City of San Francisco the casualty may not be mentioned in these reports, but on the other hand I have seen reports involving ship wrecks as far from the California coast as Australia so one never knows unless they try. There is also a ship wreck database on the web pages of the California State Land Commission concerning Pacific Coast maritime casualties that is searchable online at _http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/ShipwrecksDatabase/Shipwrecks_Database.asp_ (http://shipwrecks.slc.ca.gov/ShipwrecksDatabase/Shipwrecks_Database.asp) Hope the above information will help. John

Hi, I sent the following message to you a few weeks ago. Since then, I have found the name of the ship. However, the lists that I've looked at do not list the name that I've read about and I cannot find it online. Perhaps you can help find this. I'm looking for direct evidence of their passage and a quote from the ship's list, if possible, for these people. I read that the name of the ship was the "Sailboat", and it arrived Baltimore 18 June 1827. The passengers should include Robert Morrey/Morry and Joseph and Isabella Bradfield and their children, at least Sarah Bradfield. I found the following quote: "Passenger Arrivals at Port of Baltimore 1820-1834" R Morry. Before June 30, 1827 came to US on Sailboat met Bradfields of Yorkshire on board (also listed) went to Toronto, Georgetown, Washington DC Landed 18 June 1827." Robert Morrey was from Lancashire, Eng., and the Bradfields were from Yorkshire, Eng. I would love to see a picture of the ship, if possible. Thank you, Sandy Morrey smorrey@socal.rr.com Earlier message: My documentation says that Robert Morrey (or Morry) met his wife on board the ship (name unknown). He was born in 1792 (best guess, age 35) or 1795 (age 32) or 1797 (age 30) (documentation very fuzzy about this). Robert probably was traveling alone, but surely Robert and Sarah were on the same ship, but having not yet met when they left England. Later wife was Sarah Bradfield, born 1789 (age 38) or 1805 (age 22--best guess), traveling with parents Joseph Bradfield (born 1777, Eng.) and Isabella Watt Bradfield (born 1775, Eng.). Most documentation says the ship landed 18 June 1827, other documentation suggests 1828. I would like to know the name of this ship, and if a picture is available, that would be very nice. Sorry, but I cannot be very clear on the birthdates or ages of my ancestors (many conflicting bits of documentation).