I am trying to trace my grandfather x 5 who i thought was transported to NSW Aus for 7years for stealing 7 chickens! I now have new information which says he actually sailed from Portsmouth on 17th june 1827 on ship Layton 1. The ship docked on 9th oct 1827. We think he may have ended up in Tasmania! His name was Thomas Cooling (alias Cooke). Can anybody help? Many thanks. Julie x

I don't often find reports about Baltimore packets. The Globe, Toronto, Canada West, March 29, 1851 BALTIMORE, Wednesday March 19. The ship Robina [sic], Capt. Kane, from Liverpool, bound for Baltimore, with a cargo of salt and iron, experienced heavy gales during the whole passage. On the 20th ult., lost overboard, Frederick Austin, seaman. On Monday last, while approaching Cape Henlopen, she ran ashore. There were about 100 passengers on board, all of whom got ashore safely, except five, including two ladies, who were drowned. Hopes are entertained of getting her off, She is insured for $50,000, mostly in Baltimore. The Robina was a fine ship, about two years old, and belongs to Sperry and Pleasant's line of Liverpool and Baltimore packets. Although the article spells her name Robina, I believe the correct spelling was Robena. It appears she was salved as she was sold to New York owners and sailed as a packet ship out of New York. New York Marine Register, 1857 (Mystic Seaport website). Ship Robena, Captain Kane, 778 tons, built 1850 Baltimore, owned New York by Dunham and Dimon -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

I am looking (was searching, but still cannot find) for passenger list for the following trips: -SS NEW YORK, arrived NYC July 01, 1932 -SS DRESDEN, left NYC for Germany May 4, 1933 -SS DEUTSCHLAND, arrive NYC July, 28, 1933 from Hamburg. Regards Michael Michael Sibir Odessa

I am now trying to find the crew lists of the Concordia and Zelos. My Great Uncle's name was Wilhelm Emanuel Westerlund. Would anybody know where I might find this information? He changed his surname to Westerland after becoming an Australian citizen. The Concordia was run aground near an island off Western Australia at that time named Depuche Island. Thanks again Debbie

I'm renewing my search for the passenger list and ship for the following. TIA Henry Beethe and his second wife, Louise and their four children, Engel, Henry, Louise, and Fred left Germany and landed in New York in April 1851. They immediately left New York for Dearborn, Illinois, which is now Chicago. Other spellings for the surname may be: Bute, Buthe, & Buethe! The first two names may have an umlauted 'u'!

Hi Sue Since I live in Wellington NZ, I could go to the National Archives and see what that entry that you found, amounts to. Can't guarantee of course that Charles Gamble's ship will be mentioned. In the records of the NZ Soc of Genealogists, I have just found the following record of Charles Henry GAMBLE, lost at sea in [near] Dunedin in 1891. It is a Probate Record, ref. DAAC 9074 D239 A553, filed 18 Jun 1891, at Archives NZ, Dunedin. He died intestate. So you would have to write to Archives NZ, Dunedin and pay your $20 [or whatever it is] to get a copy of that archive. Evidently he did not warrant a Marine Dept Enquiry. Whether the Archway site at Archives NZ, Wellington can pull up the info, I doubt very much, but I could give it a go. Another option is to look for Maritime accident reports that were often reported in the Annals of the NZ House of Representatives. The other day I found one pertaining to a Marine Dept Report 1884 where the stranding of the "SS Hawea" was reported on the Waitara River [9 May 1883] and the "Decision of the Court of Inquiry" was detailed. Best regards Nick in NZ

Hi Wayne In the records held by the NZ Soc of Genealogists, is a Probate Record for a Edward John King who died intestate on 20 Aug 1880 in Porirua. His actual record is at Archives NZ, Wellington, AAAR W3558/ 1496 (Box 783), filed 3 Sep 1880. Is he your relative? Have you looked at that record? Passenger records are at the Turnbull Library [National Library] and at National Archives. You may have to visit both [if you can]. Cheers Nick

Hi Joan When I was in the States in 1974, I was shown a very impressive canal system in PA [now defunct] which MAY have been used in the 1870's to transport people to Pittsburgh. But you had better rely on more knowledgeable locals!! The system impressed me because they even had barges that could be taken to bits so that they could haul them over the mountain range, and then re-assemble them again at the other side, and put them back into the canal. Best of luck. Nick from NZ, trying to track down A L VOGEL 1846 [see my EM Fri, 03 Feb 2006].

Hi all, I was wondering if someone has any advice on the following. I am looking for information on the barque ROSE M that went down between NZ and Australia first 1/4 1891, and having no success. However, on the NZ archives Archway site, I found a GAMBLE Charles Henry - Dunedin (Lost at Sea) - Seaman 1891 It was for administration papers I tried google with no success. Short of purchasing this record from the archives, can anyone tell me how (if at all) I might find out what ship Charles Henry Gamble was on when he was lost at sea. I know it is a longshot, but it is about all that is left. Appreciate some advice. Thanks Sue in Australia

On 22 May 2006 at 11:52, Janet Prata wrote: > I have looked over the ships named for the trip over to > Canada from Ireland, and they certainly do fit the picture. > Do you know if these passenger lists will ever be > transcribed? In my looking and hunting I found that there > were several ports of departure in Ireland common at that > time, and Waterford indeed could be the one they went to. > > Also, would there be any chance that Ireland records would > have kept passenger list of those ships? Janet The passenger lists you want are not, for the most part, anywhere to be found. They did not have to be archived before 1865 so only a few exist. There are a few alternates, which I sent you in a previous email -- the JJ Cooke Shipping Records are the best (IMO) for Ireland to Canada in that time period. See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi Kathy, Thank you for your info. You are right, I have tried www.ingeneas.com before, but have not tried with the varieties of names you suggested. I will try these other names. I received a good lead from another shipslist person which helps me to round out my current information, and move on to other new leads. I now know that Harrington may be "Dennis" and I suspect he may have remained in Canada, while Patrick Maghar definitely travelled down to New York State. Thanks again! Janet On May 22, 2006, at 3:06 AM, TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > From: "Kathleen Miller" <kathy_miller@sympatico.ca> > Date: May 21, 2006 2:01:25 PM EDT > To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Patrick Maghar, & ? Harrington > > > Hi there > > You've probably tried this before but I thought I'd mention > www.ingeneas.com. I went searching there and there are a couple of > Patrick Mahers - not sure they would be your relative though. There > are some Patrick Maguires that might fit. There is a Thomas Maghar in > the census (not as a passenger record). > > http://www.ingeneas.com/ingeneas/index.html > > Harrington reveals a lot of names - it may take you a while to try to > match the two together. > > I hope you are successful. > > Kathy Miller > ON Canada >

Hi Sue, I can't thank you enough. This is most interesting, and I believe may indeed be who I am looking for. Dates coordinate very well, to match the assumed ages of Patrick and his Uncle Harrington. I will be looking for any other historical info regarding the Lady Sherbrooke as well. I have looked over the ships named for the trip over to Canada from Ireland, and they certainly do fit the picture. Do you know if these passenger lists will ever be transcribed? In my looking and hunting I found that there were several ports of departure in Ireland common at that time, and Waterford indeed could be the one they went to. Also, would there be any chance that Ireland records would have kept passenger list of those ships? Good luck with your continuing transcribing -- that is terrific work; so valuable to history and to those of us searching ancestry records! Thank you again, Janet On May 22, 2006, at 3:06 AM, TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > From: Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> > Date: May 21, 2006 7:03:09 PM EDT > To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TSL] PATRICK MAGHAR, & ? HARRINGTON - Ireland to Montreal > > > Hi Janet, > > At 10:04 AM 2006-05-21 -0400, Janet Prata wrote: >> My ancestor (great/great/grandfather) was named Patrick Maghar (or >> Patrick Maher) and came to Montreal anywhere from 1826 to 1846 >> (although most likely on the earlier end of that time frame). > > I have been transcribing steamboat lists . . Quebec to Montreal (over > 500 so far) . . for locals AND new immigrants who had arrived at > Quebec by sailing vessel > http://theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20index.htm > >> Patrick Maghar was from Tipperary, Tipperary County Ireland. He >> travelled with an Uncle, whose name was HARRINGTON (I'm assuming >> that's his last name-- we have no first name). > > I found this rather interesting entry > > Lady Sherbrooke - 4th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, May 24th 1825 > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1825/lsmay24.htm > 69 Dennis Harrington x x -/10/- -/10/- > 70 Patrick Marr x x -/10/- -/10/- > > 1825 had an early shipping season for the port of Quebec and there are > a couple of compelling entries in the few days prior to the steamboat > trip above of ships arriving at Quebec from Waterford which fits well > with a Tipperary emigrant !! > http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/1825a.htm > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > _

Hi Lorine, Thank you for this information, I appreciate it! I will peruse the info further. I have also received a very good lead from Sue Swiggum, which has been very helpful. Janet On May 22, 2006, at 3:06 AM, TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > From: "Olive Tree Genealogy" <otg@csolve.net> > Date: May 21, 2006 11:43:33 AM EDT > To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TSL] PATRICK MAGHAR, & ? HARRINGTON - Ireland to Montreal > > > On 21 May 2006 at 10:04, Janet Prata wrote: > >> Does anyone know of passenger lists of ships traveling from >> Ireland to Canada at that time? > > 1826-1846 is a challenging time frame. If you extend your > search one more year (1847) here's an idea for you. There > are some passenger lists which were kept by > shipping agents in the originating country. For example, > the Passenger Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents gives > sailings from Londonderry to Philadelphia PA, Quebec, and > St. John New Brunswick from 1847 to 1871. > > Olive Tree has some passenger lists from these records > online, and will be adding more as time permits. For an > index of clickable links to those JJ Cooke passenger lists > online to date, see > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml > > The Hawke Papers, letterbooks of Chief Emigrant Agent > Anthony B. Hawke are also available. They cover the years > 1831 to 1892. > > See the searchable database at > http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm > > If you want to search online, you may have limited success > because only a very small percentage of ships to Canada > have been transcribed and put online. > > You can also check out the pages for ships passenger lists > to the following parts of Canada: > > Ships Passenger Lists to Quebec > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/qu_ships.shtml > > Ships Passenger Lists to New Brunswick > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nb_ships.shtml > > Ships Passenger Lists to Nova Scotia > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ns_ships.shtml > > Lorine > -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > > * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ > * Naturalization Records > http://naturalizationrecords.com/ > * Images of Ships Lists > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > > otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com > > ______________________________

On 21 May 2006 at 14:47, theshadow wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone have a list of the Speedwell's passengers > between 1635-1640? I have looked everywhere for a mention > of my ancestor, Anthony Slocombe/Slocumb on a ship and have > just recently been told he is listed among the passengers of > the Speedwell, arrival Boston 1637. Try "Passenger Ships to New England, Virginia & Barbadoes From England" at < http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nengships1620- 1640.shtml > That's a 2 line URL, you canNOT click on it in email. Copy and paste both lines into your web browser. You can also start at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_neng.shtml and look for the link to the list of ships 1620-1640 Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi Janet, At 10:04 AM 2006-05-21 -0400, Janet Prata wrote: >My ancestor (great/great/grandfather) was named Patrick Maghar (or Patrick >Maher) and came to Montreal anywhere from 1826 to 1846 (although most >likely on the earlier end of that time frame). I have been transcribing steamboat lists . . Quebec to Montreal (over 500 so far) . . for locals AND new immigrants who had arrived at Quebec by sailing vessel http://theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20index.htm >Patrick Maghar was from Tipperary, Tipperary County Ireland. He travelled >with an Uncle, whose name was HARRINGTON (I'm assuming that's his last >name-- we have no first name). I found this rather interesting entry Lady Sherbrooke - 4th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, May 24th 1825 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1825/lsmay24.htm 69 Dennis Harrington x x -/10/- -/10/- 70 Patrick Marr x x -/10/- -/10/- 1825 had an early shipping season for the port of Quebec and there are a couple of compelling entries in the few days prior to the steamboat trip above of ships arriving at Quebec from Waterford which fits well with a Tipperary emigrant !! http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/1825a.htm Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

At 03:06 PM 2006-05-21 -0700, Karen Woodworth wrote: >I have been unable to locate a passenger list for: > > s/s Hector (Temperley Line) 1872 Left London May 21 > arrived Quebec June ll (Plymouth 1872-05-24) > >Can anyone help me? > >Thanks, >Karen Hi Karen, You had told us you were going to check for the microfilm at your library . . .maybe you copied the info down wrong. Here it is again. I know it is exactly located as expressed below, list number 33 for the year 1872 as I confirmed all the details and made the "Special Groups(s)" notes and Captain name from reading the list on microfilm # C-4527 . . if you use the LDS, their number is 0889447 for the same microfilm. Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4527 HECTOR London, England 1872-05-21 / Plymouth, England 1872-05-24 Quebec, Que. 1872-06-11 (TEMP) Temperley Line - charter (U): Cow Cross Mission (22) & (U): National Emigration League (8) & (U): Mr. Haggs' Institution (6) & (J): Home for Little Boys (3) List Number: 33; Captain T.H. Sheen The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889447 ~ 1872 ~ port of Quebec Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi All, I am looking for Justina POWER. She came into Melbourne onboard the Fitzjames in 1854. She was nine years old at this time. I have heard the family may have moved to Bendigo but have not confirmed this as yet. I also heard that she later moved to Dunedin, New Zealand about 1864 and married....and died in Wellington in 1937. If this is her I would like to see the passenger list of her arrival into Dunedin if possible please. I am looking for her two brothers, Austin (1847) and Alfred (1850). Thank you for any assistance you can give me with this. Hooray, Warren in Ballarat, Australia (ex Kiwi). Cattle die, Kinsmen die, But fame is ever lasting.

Hi All, I am looking for Austin POWER born in Plymouth about 1817. He came into Melbourne, Australia in September 1854 onboard the Fitzjames. His two twin sons died, as did his wife, Harriet BARDENS, all within the first two years. I suspect he may have returned to England by 1874 as there is another marriage of an Austin in Marylebone, London then. He was there in the 1851 Census as the Publican of the Crown Tavern. He still had a daughter, Justina, and two other sons, Austin and Alfred to look after in Australia in 1856. No sight of him in the 1861, 1871, 1881 Census though. Thanks for any assistance you can give me with him. Hooray, Warren in Ballarat, Australia (ex Kiwi). Cattle die, Kinsmen die, But fame is ever lasting.

I have been unable to locate a passenger list for: s/s Hector (Temperley Line) 1872 Left London May 21 arrived Quebec June ll (Plymouth 1872-05-24) Can anyone help me? Thanks, Karen

Hello, Does anyone have a list of the Speedwell's passengers between 1635-1640? I have looked everywhere for a mention of my ancestor, Anthony Slocombe/Slocumb on a ship and have just recently been told he is listed among the passengers of the Speedwell, arrival Boston 1637. It listed - Anthony Slocombe , wife,daughter, and Giles and Edward Slocombe. I would appreciate any help anyone can give me. I have searched the net but cannot find a list of these passengers. Thank you, Jean Hancock in TX