i am looking for a seaman by the name of james henry peter beatson who was a crew member around 1919 is there any information available please, i am tracing my family regards alan meeson from bradford yorkshire

Hi everyone I thought this might be helpful for folks to know what's available in passenger lists to Canada before 1865. So I wrote up the following: There are no comprehensive lists of immigrants arriving in Canada prior to 1865. Until that year, shipping companies were not required by the government to keep their passenger manifests. There are search engines to search multiple websites for ships going to Canada at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml They include most ships lists on the Internet going to Canada and the online InGeneas databases for immigration to Canada 1800s ****************************************** Library & Archives Canada Holdings There are some passenger lists archived at the NAC (National Archives of Canada) for the time period 1817- 1831. You might also find an ancestor in correspondence of the Secretary of State on immigration for 1817-1857. There are lists of immigrants, mainly Irish, and entry books re immigration, and assisted emigration to British North America. These must be ordered offline . Details are given at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immcanpre1865.shtml ****************************************** Immigration Projects Online Ships passenger lists for Peter Robinson Settlers sailing1825 Ireland to Canada are online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ There are a few surviving passenger lists which were kept by shipping agents in the originating country. The Passenger Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents gives sailings from Londonderry to Quebec and St. John New Brunswick from 1847 to 1871. These are online at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records 1819-1836 at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/1819_20inde x.htm The Hawke Papers, letterbooks of Chief Emigrant Agent Anthony B. Hawke are also available at the Archives of Ontario. They cover the years 1831 to 1892. See the searchable database at http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm There is also the "Return of Emigrants Landed at the Port of Kingston Ontario, Canada 1861-1882" which gives the final destination of the individuals, their date of arrival at Kingston and more. It is found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/kingston1861oct- 1862may.shtml Petworth Immigrants 1832-1837 at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/petworth.ht ml Emigrants from England in New York City Almshouse 1818-1830 - 254 names of English immigrants to Canada & USA including the name of the ship they sailed on at http://www.allenglishrecords.com/almshouse-a-f.shtml ****************************************** New Brunswick Arrivals The Saint John Customs House Passenger Lists 1815, 1832, 1833-1834 & 1837-1838 are the only known surviving lists from this time period. Some can be found online at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/saintjohnin dex.htm Most of the Customs House records were lost in 1877 in the Great Fire of Saint John. Famine lists from 1845-1850 appear also to have been lost. ****************************************** Mailing Lists There is a mailing list called CAN-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1865-L for queries and discussion involving immigration to Canada before 1865. You can subscribe from this page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CAN-SHIPSLISTS- PRE1865.html ****************************************** Newspaper Arrivals TheShipsList website has Quebec ship arrivals extracted from contemporary newspapers. See http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm ****************************************** Miscellaneous Websites with Immigration Information on Ships to Canada Immigrants to Canada http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/thevoyage.html The Ships List http://www.theshipslist.com/ Ships Passenger Lists Online http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ Finding Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/canada/ Ships Passenger Lists to Canada 1400-1930 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1400-1800.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi Sue - You've given me all the information I'll need to start ordering microfilm from ILL. I was surprised to see the ship sailed so many times in one year. This looks more like a winter project as I'm sure I wouldn't be lucky enough to find what I'm looking for on the first film as all I have to go on was 'they arrived in Canada around 1912' - not verified. Thank you for giving me the lead to get started, it's very much appreciated. May

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole" <nanniemom_12@yahoo.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:05 AM Subject: [TSL] The Great Britain 1874 Hi Carole This is a very famous ship See http://mc2.vicnet.net.au/home/afofssgb/web/index.html > I wonder if anyone can help with any info on this ship. > My gr gr grandmother Mary Menzies [nee] Walker left > Scotland on this ship with her children and went to > Australia.Her husband was not with her. How do you know this ? Women did have much the way of legal rights back then . Was she joining family already here ? What records have you already checked .??? When posting on a fairly international mailing list such as the ShipLists certainly is, its nice to give clue as to you location in the world Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia Need Help ? Try: www.raogk.org/listing.htm

Hello Carole, The SS Great Britain has been restored and preserved at Bristol. You can find history and photos at http://www.ssgreatbritain.org/index.php regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole" <nanniemom_12@yahoo.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: [TSL] The Great Britain 1874 > Hello Folks > I wonder if anyone can help with any info on this ship. > My gr gr grandmother Mary Menzies [nee] Walker left Scotland on this ship > with her children and went to Australia.Her husband was not with her. > Hope someone can help. > Carole > > > --------------------------------- > Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with > Voice. > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > ***** You have entered a Flame Free Zone ***** > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > >

ANNA GUSTAVA F. HULTMAN, born 16 April 1865 in Vastra Ny parish, Ostergotland county, Sweden. She got her Moving Out Letter for America on 13 Sept 1887. At that time she was living at Motala. Listed as ANNA G. HULTMAN, 22 years old, left for America from the port of Goteborg on 30 SEPT 1887, sailing to Hull, England, and then by rail to Liverpool. She is listed as coming from Motala and had a ticket for NEW YORK. Source code: 33:191:2543. She traveled alone. I beieve she stayed in New York a couple years until her sister, Hilda Hultman, arrived in 1889. Hilda left NYC first to marry and move to Marysville, Montana. Anna moved to Marysville in 1894 to help with the birth of Hilda's baby. Anna married in August of 1895 in Helena, Montana and raised a family of five in Marysville, MT. Any assistance in finding the ship Anna sailed on from Liverpool would be appreciated. Linda

Patrick MCDERMOTT, born 1855 Ireland, died 1919 Butte, Montana; his wife, Mary Maguire, died in Wigan, Lancashire, England 15 Feb. 1911. I believe Patrick emigrated to America after his wife died. I don't know what port he left from, but a son, James, left from Liverpool on May 1, 1912 with his bride and baby son, arriving in Philadelphia on the SS Haverford. Patrick lived in Butte, Montana. IF PATRICK left England in 1911, he would have been 56 years. Another son, Thomas, left England in 1908, and then came to the U.S. from Winnepeg, Canada, in March 1908. It's possible Patrick came with his son, Thomas, in 1908, but I'd rather believe he came after his wife died in 1911. Thomas paid for the passage of his brother, sister-in-law and nephew. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks. Linda

Hi - I'm new to your list and would appreciate some help regarding the above ship. Two very kind gents from the "Ships from England" list suggested I join this one. I was very pleased to receive an attachment of the ship when she sailed in 1912 and the sad end when she went down in 1917. Can someone please tell me how I go about finding the passenger lists for 1912? Thank you - May western Canada

Still searching for Clark family who according to tradition and census records arrived NYC or perhaps Montreal some time in 1852. Goodhand Clark and family left hamlet of Inch, town of Dunmanway, County Cork, Ireland to follow relatives who had earlier settled in or around Rochester, NY. Goodhand died coming across the pond - His widow, Eleanor Broadfield Clark, born 1813 and following children made the voyage and settled on the Genesee River in town of Caneadea, Allegany Co, NY: Goodhand, born 1825 John Thomas b 1833 Barbara Jane b 1835 or 1837 George b 1839 Catherine b 1842 William b 1844 Ellen b 1847 ELIZA ANNE b 24 Jun 1849 Please contact me at RJThoden@yahoo.com if you have any information on this family. --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

Hello Folks I wonder if anyone can help with any info on this ship. My gr gr grandmother Mary Menzies [nee] Walker left Scotland on this ship with her children and went to Australia.Her husband was not with her. Hope someone can help. Carole --------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

Trying to find information on Ruwen Syder who arrived in Boston in 1921 on the Lithuania. Port of embarkation was probably Danzig. How long did the voyage take from Danzig to Boston?

Thank you to all who answered my query, such wonderful expertise. Irene Kerr

At 10:33 AM 2006-05-26 -0700, Graham Godfrey wrote: >I wish to renew my search for the passenger list and ship for unassisted >migration to Melbourne Australia for D. O'Donovan who left England and >landed in Melbourne Australia around March 1866. Any assistance would be >appreciated in finding this list, or ship. >Graham Godfrey Hi Graham, Checking here . . Unassisted Shipping Index Victoria 1852-1923 http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23 I didn't find an O'Donovan 1865-1867 . . but these two Family Name First Name Age Month Year Ship Port Fiche Page DONOVAN DAVID 26 MAY 1865 CITY OF MELBOURNE B 246 004 DONOVAN DANIEL 26 JUL 1866 TORNADO B 259 003 I can't personally advise you how to view the lists, but you can find the information at the link above. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi David, At 09:23 AM 2006-05-29 -0400, David Schoenberger wrote: >I have a general question regarding passenger lists. (The list in >question is the ship Aller, May 28 1887, arrived NY.) (from Ancestry.com) > >At what point during the voyage is the list compiled ? At? boarding? >During the voyage?, Arrival? > >There are two people on this ship that are husband and wife, but they are >5 pages apart !! >Is that unusual? > >Ignatz Schönberger (transcribed as TGNATZ SCHONBERGER) >Marie Schönberger (transcribed as MARIE SCHRENBERGER) Lorine and Cliff have responded to you about when the list would have been compiled. As they stated, it was at the beginning of the voyage, although notations of birth / death etc. would be added during, or at the completion of the voyage. Transcriptions can often be in error as they may be indexed using technology rather than humans, so where a human could logically realise the intent was Ignatz, the lettering in handwritten documents can be confusing to machines . . . regardless, we are all very thankful for all indexing. :-} Although all efforts would be made to keep family groups together, consider the confusion of embarkation and misunderstanding and you can see how they may be on different pages . . . I have even seen children added at the end of a list, or maybe even just an infant (who wouldn't have been charged a passage fare). A good purser would often make cross-reference notes to link families. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hello Gary, At 11:04 PM 2006-05-28 -0400, Gary Lee Nelson wrote: >I believe my father, Joseph Nelson, sailed on this ship from Liverpool on >1/1/1915 arriving in Halifax on 1/12/1915. He was traveling with his >sister Amy and parents John and Mary. I saw a message you sent about this >and wonder if you can point me to the passenger list for confirmation. There are two Canadian arrival lists for this trip, one for Halifax and one for St. John, N.B. They are probably identical, with ticks or checks indicating which passengers disembarked at Halifax or St. John. I have only read the St. John list (hence the notes about some of the passengers). Reel # Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information T-4754 MISSANABIE Liverpool, England 1915-01-01 Halifax, N.S. 1915-01-10 T-4830 MISSANABIE Liverpool, England 1915-01-01 St. John, N.B. 1915-01-11 (M): Returning soldiers & (L): English dockyard workers destined to Bermuda ; Captain G.C. Evans The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL free of charge, from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LAC will allow your Library to borrow up to six microfilms on your behalf, per request. The LDS now have copies of the post-1900 Canadian arrivals, so check here for links and details http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#lds If your father and family were just in transit through Canada destined to the US, then you should also check out the CAN-US border records (St. Albans lists) as those contain a lot more info than Canadian lists for US destined passengers. http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans Good Luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

In a message dated 5/29/2006 8:31:15 AM Central Standard Time, otg@csolve.net writes: On 29 May 2006 at 9:23, David Schoenberger wrote: > At what point during the voyage is the list compiled ? At the port of departure But...were there two lists, a German list and an English list? Usually we find the English list which NARA or somebody has but we are now hearing about Gemini lists at Hamburg but not at Bremen since the Bremen lists were destroyed. Cliff Bischoff

On 29 May 2006 at 9:23, David Schoenberger wrote: > At what point during the voyage is the list compiled ? At the port of departure. Lorine **Search over 5,000 Ships Passenger Lists to USA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml ** Naturalization Records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~ otg@csolve.net

I have a general question regarding passenger lists. (The list in question is the ship Aller, May 28 1887, arrived NY.) (from Ancestry.com) At what point during the voyage is the list compiled ? At? boarding? During the voyage?, Arrival? There are two people on this ship that are husband and wife, but they are 5 pages apart !! Is that unusual? Ignatz Schönberger (transcribed as TGNATZ SCHONBERGER) Marie Schönberger (transcribed as MARIE SCHRENBERGER)

Am looking for help with my gggrandfather Michael Dufala who sailed with his wife Maria, daughter Maria and son John on this ship in 1880. Any help would be much appreciated. Am willing to pay for help. Thank you in advance.

Could you please help me? I have recently obtained some artifacts of the whaling bark/ship Bark Morning Star. I understand the Dartmouth connection to this vessell as it was built there in 1853. RE: the New Bedford connection.......is that MA or CT? Was the connection that it was docked and launched from there. Thanks in advance for your time, Debra Spence Ohio