My ggrandfather and family arrived in Baltimore in April 1880 on the Strassburg. They then reappear in Chicago in the June 1880 census. Any ideas about how they would travel from Baltimore to Chicago in this time frame or why. They were Germans, I believe. Thanks for any ideas.

On 5 Jun 2006 at 0:59, brenerda@aol.com wrote: > Been on a 30 year quest to find the ship my great great > grandparents were on. Have utilized all online and other > sources. Seek suggestions from all. > > The Surname of the family is LEVY, with variations such as > LEVI, LEVEY, LEEVY. Family is from Posen/Prussia. > > I beleive they came over as a family. They probably arrived > New York City as they appear in the NYC 1860 census. > > The father born about 1819 is LOUIS (LEWIS OR SYLVESTER > LOUIS) The mother REBECCA or possibly BERTHA born about > 1808. ESTHER born about 1845 JACOB born about 1847 MORRIS > born about 1851 > > Need to be aware of European Jewish variations on the names. > As an example Esther in Heista in 1860 census. > > The last member MAY be MARY who was born Oct 1856. In the > 1860 and 1870 census and on her 1876 marriage license it > states born in GERMANY. However all censuses starting in > 1880 and continuing through 1930 have her born in NYC. She > may have been born at sea. Critical variable fact as it > would help date the arrival. Have not been able to confirm > NYC birth via NY records. > Hello David When you say you've utilized "other sources" do you mean you have checked microfilms and indexes on film? Passenger lists *are* available on microfilm so if you know a date of arrival you can order the microfilm or have NARA do a lookup for you. For a complete list of film numbers (NARA or FHC) for ships going to New York after 1820, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml Find your date (year, month, day if known) and write down the NARA or Family History Centre film number you need. The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee. You can order National Archives (NARA) forms online at http://www.archives.gov/global_pages/inquire_form.html You might also want to check the ongoing project to fill in the 1847-1892 index gap for passenger arrival records in New York. This project consists of 3 sets of records: 1. NY Times extracts for ship arrivals and passenger names 2. Images (and some accompanying transcripts) of actual passenger lists in this time period 3. NY Almshouse records for 1855-1858 The complete index of NY Times years and shipping news extracts is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/nytimes.htm You can also search the NY Times online for a small fee through other sites. There are links at the above URL. Images of ships passenger lists for these Unindexed NY years are online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ The Almshouse Records start at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ny_alms1855.htm Also check online ships and links to ships in this time period at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny182549.shtml As well, you may want to try naturalization records. Did the family naturalize? The 1900, 1910 ,1920 and 1930 census identify citizenship status, with notations showing the individual was an Alien, or had started the Naturalization process or had his final papers. The year of immigration is also shown. 1920 also nicely provides a year of naturalization. You can read more about the value of census records in your search for an immigrant ancestor at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/census.shtml There are great clues in the 1870 census too! If your ancestor has a check mark in the column "Male Citizens of the United States of twenty-one years of age and upwards" you have a clue that naturalization took place before 1870 :-) To find out what questions were asked on various census records see http://allcensusrecords.com/ For a Resource Guide to Naturalization records, what you can expect to find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding those important years (immigration and naturalization) see http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Read the intro then choose your state of interest. There are also many links to searchable online naturalization records at NaturalizationRecords.com website. Next suggestion - try other ports of arrival. Most are indexed, so you could order the indexes for each one and go through them. You may even find they entered via Canada which was a lot cheaper way to go. But that opens a whole new avenue so I won't go into it here. Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Been on a 30 year quest to find the ship my great great grandparents were on. Have utilized all online and other sources. Seek suggestions from all. The Surname of the family is LEVY, with variations such as LEVI, LEVEY, LEEVY. Family is from Posen/Prussia. I beleive they came over as a family. They probably arrived New York City as they appear in the NYC 1860 census. The father born about 1819 is LOUIS (LEWIS OR SYLVESTER LOUIS) The mother REBECCA or possibly BERTHA born about 1808. ESTHER born about 1845 JACOB born about 1847 MORRIS born about 1851 Need to be aware of European Jewish variations on the names. As an example Esther in Heista in 1860 census. The last member MAY be MARY who was born Oct 1856. In the 1860 and 1870 census and on her 1876 marriage license it states born in GERMANY. However all censuses starting in 1880 and continuing through 1930 have her born in NYC. She may have been born at sea. Critical variable fact as it would help date the arrival. Have not been able to confirm NYC birth via NY records. Thanks for any help. David Brener, Fargo, ND

I wonder if you can assist on any information regarding the SV Limerick around circa 1852. It might have been a German sailing vessel or British. I would be grateful if any info could be passed on or directed to any site that I might be able to view in order to get the necessary info. Thanking you Yours Faithfully S.G.C.Brittle +27219750019 Cape Town - South Africa.

Looking for my ancestor by the name of Augustus Dorn said to have left the port of Amsterdam some time between 1789 to about 1815. Tradition is that he was traveling with his brother, name unknown, and they arrived at the port of New Orleans. Can any one help? Thanks, Mary Hughes

I see that Carmel asked about the same voyage on TSL back in 1999. Seven years to get an answer must be nearly a record :-) Some questions are much easier to answer because of the availability of new resources, some online and some not. I wouldn't bet my house on the NYT spelling, Lelvetzou Selkendorf, but we are on the right track, and have confirmed the arrival. The Castle Garden db lists the vessel as Levetzon Selkendorf, but that is a transcription, so not guaranteed either. However Google knows about Levetzon but not about Lelvetzou. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Carmel I think I have your ship. From the NY Times of June 28, 1852: Mecklingburg brig Lelvetzou Selkendorf, Gurther, Hamburg, 56 ds., mdse. and 128 passengers to Schmidt & Balchen. Regards.. Marj At 12:42 PM 6/4/2006, csaxon wrote: >Hello, > I am looking for any information on a ship that sailed from Hamburg > Germany in 1852 and arrived in the Port of New York in July 21? 1852. > >Captain F. Gunther >Name of the ship as best as I can make out is something like: > >____Levinzon Selkindorf >or >Rony Levinsen Selkindorf > >I believe it was a brig. > >My ancestor who traveled on this boat was Friedrick Husfeldt > >If anyone has any information on a ship whose name is anything like the >above I would appreciate knowing what you have. > >Thank you, >Carmel > > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database >http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date >TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

On 05/03/2000 "ADH" <hedgecoy@cwcom.net> posted (edited): >> I have a copy of a ticket purchased on the 25th May 1871. This was for 2 and 1/2 passengers from London to New York on the SS Constantine. Could SKS please tell me who owned the ship? The passengers ended up in Michigan, would they have got there by train or by boat, any ideas? Thanks Adrian >> Sue Swiggum replied: >> The CONSTANTINE seems to be a "ship-rigged" sailing ship, not a steamship, therefore not "SS." On TheShipsList website we have the 1871 annual report for New York. http://www.theshipslist.com/Forms/reportNY1871.html This lists all the steamships which were sailing transatlantic, to New York. In another table there is a list of ALL ships on which smallpox or sickness broke out, with their NY arrival date. The CONSTANTINE must have made two trips from London that year, as there is a Nov. 21st arrival shown with 78 passengers. >> Here are the two arrival reports from the New York Times. New York Times, July 6, 1871 Arrived New York, July 5 Ship Constantine, [captain] Creevey, London and Isle of Wight 35 ds., with mdse. and 182 passengers to [agents] Grinnell, Minturn & Co. Had fine weather, with a great deal of fog; June 20, on the Banks, spoke schr. Amery Knight of Marblehead; had 400 quintals fish. [In 1871, the passengers would have reached Michigan by train] New York Times, November 22, 1871 Arrived New York, November 21 Ship Constantine, [captain] Creevy, London and Isle of Wight 38 ds., with mdse. and 78 passengers to [agents] Chas. H. Marshall & Co. Has had strong westerly gales fron lon. 15 to 50, and since fine weather. [There was no reference to smallpox in this report, but smallpox was a worry in New York in 1871.] The ship was the packet ship Constantine, 1280 tons, built Portsmouth [New Hampshire] in 1850. She was owned in New York by Grinnell, Minturn & Co. Captain Jas. H Creevy or Creevey (both spellings were used), was listed as master of the Constantine from 1863 - 1877 in the American Registers at the Mystic Seaport website. [I happened to be interested in a post by Adrian on another list, and noticed he had posted to TSL]. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Hello, I am looking for any information on a ship that sailed from Hamburg Germany in 1852 and arrived in the Port of New York in July 21? 1852. Captain F. Gunther Name of the ship as best as I can make out is something like: ____Levinzon Selkindorf or Rony Levinsen Selkindorf I believe it was a brig. My ancestor who traveled on this boat was Friedrick Husfeldt If anyone has any information on a ship whose name is anything like the above I would appreciate knowing what you have. Thank you, Carmel

Here is another story about a ship with a troubled passage. Before this story was published in The Globe, the ship had reached New York (April 3, 1851). The arrival manifest has been transcribed by ISTG. It lists 250 passengers (almost all Irish), of whom 23 are noted as dying on the voyage. Although Capt. Purdy brought the ship to Halifax, the manifest was signed by Fred Hyland, as master, so perhaps Capt. Purdy was replaced in Halifax. The note about 1100 tons O.M. means Old Measurement. After a change in the formula for measuring tonnage, ships were sometimes listed with two tonnages, Old Measurement and New Measurement. The Globe, Toronto, Canada West, April 8, 1851 THE SHIP INFANTA, at this port on Thursday last, 68 days from Liverpool, bound to New York, with upwards of 200 passengers. fourteen of whom died on the passage, is still in our harbour waiting for men. Thos. Bolton, Esq., is agent for the ship, and she has been supplied with every necessary for prosecuting the voyage, with the exception of completing her crew. Most of the seamen on board have been sick during almost the entire passage, and it has only been by the most strenuous exertions of Capt. Purdy, and the partial training of some ten or a dozen of the passengers to work the ship, that the Infanta was enabled to reach Halifax. Several deaths have occurred since her arrival, and it is thought many more will follow - the majority of the passengers having lost heart, and not seeming to care what becomes of them. Six men were shipped last week - their advance paid - but subsequently refused to proceed. On Sunday last, the anchor was lifted for the purpose of proceeding to the Quarantine Station, but for want of hands to work the ship, and her head casting the wrong way, she was obliged to anchor again. The Infanta is owned by a house in St. John, N.B., and is upward of 1100 tons O. M. Nova Scotian [Halifax] -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

On 3 Jun 2006 at 9:47, Mary Peters wrote: > &shy;Hi , > > I'm looking for the name of a ship and the passenger list > that left a port in Havre, France on Oct. 1, 1852 and > arrived in New Orleans port on Nov. 20, 1852. This is > when (according to the naturalization application) Martin > Jakle emigrated to the US from Wurtemburg, Germany. > > You can consult microfilm for this list. For a complete list of NARA and FHC microfilm numbers for LA, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_louisiana.shtml Ships to Louisiana after 1820 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_la1820.shtml To use custom search engines to search multiple websites at once, see the page "Search FREE Ships Passenger Lists to Louisiana" (528 ships ) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchlaships.shtml Also see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ Choose LOUISIANA from the menu choices Good luck! Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Hi How would a boy, born in about 1833 in Thrapston, Northamptonshire in the English Midlands (and about sixty miles from the nearest bit of sea, at Kings Lynn) embark on a career which led to him becoming a commercial sea captain? (First Officer of the "Bangalore" by 1872, Captain of the "Tanjore" by 1877.) There was no sea-going tradition in the family; his father was a draper. Would he have started in the Navy, or were there apprenticeships or other training schemes for commercial officers? Regards Roger

Hi, I have a Passengers contract ticket from Tapscott's American Emigration Office For my great-grandparents George (Geo) and Elizabeth Hirst on the Queen of West 1800 ton register to sail from Liverpool, for New York on the 6th of July 1849 The problem is that I can not find any information of the Queen of West - Not the Queen of the West which it's weight is different - 1,433 tons(http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/corry.htm) and sailed in 1849 at time it couldn't make this trip. We can not find their entry into the US or the Ship but we have the ticket,the question is where else can we look to find information and is the information we have helpful to anyone. Thanks Nancy

&shy;Hi , I'm looking for the name of a ship and the passenger list that left a port in Havre, France on Oct. 1, 1852 and arrived in New Orleans port on Nov. 20, 1852. This is when (according to the naturalization application) Martin Jakle emigrated to the US from Wurtemburg, Germany. Thank you for any help I can get on solving this puzzle. Mary &shy; __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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At 05:02 PM 2006-06-02 -0300, Kervyn Burman wrote: >samuel charles burman and mary ann oak left england to come to ontario >and lost a child on the journey in about 1855 don't know exactly when >or where they left from Believe the child was a girl Hi Kervyn, I looked on the 1901 census and found here ........ Source Information: 1901 Census of Canada Subdistrict: Wellington (Ward/Quartier), OTTAWA (City/Cité), ONTARIO District Number: 100 Subdistrict Number: g-2 Archives Microfilm: T-6488 Brady G.M. M Head M Aug 12 1872 28 Brady Ellaner F Wife M Jul 3 1872 28 Burman M.A. F Mother W Apr 1 1837 63 "Mother" was born on England and emigrated to Canada in 1856 (according to what was told to the census taker) If those are yours in Ottawa area, in addition to M.A. there are . . Burman Chas 26 ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier) g-4 26 1 Burman Ethel 21 ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier) g-4 26 2 Burman Olive 1 ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier) g-4 26 3 Burman Richard 34 ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier) g-6 7 33 Burman Elisia 32 ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier) g-6 7 34 Burman Richard A 11/12 ON OTTAWA (City/Cité) Wellington (Ward/Quartier) g-6 7 35 If you go to TheShipsList mail archives http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/Search/$searchform?searchView . . and search Dodsworth AND BMD . . it returns 25 emails where Harry Dodsworth and others discuss births, marriages and deaths at sea, on British ships and how to look for the records. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

samuel charles burman and mary ann oak left england to come to ontario and lost a child on the journey in about 1855 don't know exactly when or where they left from Believe the child was a girl

Dear Sir/Madam, I would be grateful if you could assist me in researching details of my great grandmother ,Bridget Elizabeth Galvin(from Cavan Lower, Donegal, Ireland),& my great grandfather , William Grace Hennessey(from Stoneyford, Kilkenny ,Ireland) who arrived independently as assisted immigrants & married in Rockhampton Qld in 1866. I have no details of their arrival or premarriage life in Australia . They may have entered Australia in any one of a number of ports & I am anxious to locate the name of the port & try to piece together details of their early life in Australia. Any details or advice would be grateful appreciated. Thanking you in anticipation. Yours faithfully, Lance Potter 1 Nadda Court , Werribee, Vic. 3030 lancepotter@swiftdsl.com.au

I have been trying to find my GGrandfather, Arjen RUSSMANN, born 1858 Hannover, emigrating to Illinois in 1868, according to the 1910 Chicago census. I have searched many Ships Passenger Lists using surname variants, and I cannot find him and his family..believe his father's name was Herman, but not verified. The few US documents I have list Hannover as his birthplace, and I am thinking that is not the City of Hannover... more probably the Kingdom of Hannover.. Does anyone know which years are covered in the Passenger records from Bremen which were destroyed? I am wondering if perhaps his ship was among those lists. I am going to the midwest to review his naturalization records this fall, but am still trying to find the Passenger Manifest. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks..Noreen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com