Greetings. I have been searching for my progenitor Henry Smith. Before anyone faints, we didn't move around a lot so most of my Smith searching has been a breeze. A few years ago I thought I found Henry on a ships list on OliveTree. I lost the info and haven't been able to recapture it. The Henry Smith I found was listed as 10 years old on an English ship that had gone to Holland and "picked them up". It was a bunch of children brought to Philadelphia and sold into indentured slavery. Children made lucretive targets because the usual 7 year indenture had to be prolonged until the child reached the age of majority, 21. This Henry would have had to work for 11 years in virtual slavery and then hope to be released with a suit of clothes and some tools. I think the date of arrival was around 1747. My family's oral tradition is fairly close to what I found. Can anyone help me? _________________________________________________________________ See their smiles, hear their laughter with MSN Messenger! http://messenger.msn.co.za/

On 10 Jun 2006 at 6:44, Sarah Cason wrote: > most of my Smith searching has been a breeze. A few years > ago I thought I found Henry on a ships list on OliveTree. I > lost the info and haven't been able to recapture it. The > Henry Smith I found was listed as 10 years old on an English > ship that had gone to Holland and "picked them up". It was a > bunch of children brought to Philadelphia and sold into > indentured slavery. Children made lucretive targets because > the usual 7 year indenture had to be prolonged until the > child reached the age of majority, 21. This Henry would > have had to work for 11 years in virtual slavery and then > hope to be released with a suit of clothes and some tools. I > think the date of arrival was around 1747. Hi Sarah, It's earlier than you mentioned and it's not the right state... but -- on my site Olive Tree Genealogy, there is a Henry Smith in the list of Palatine Children Apprenticed by Gov. Hunter in New York 1710-1714 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/pal/pal_kids1710-14.shtml Unfortunately I get 95 "hits" when I search for Henry Smith on my main site (Olive Tree)! Since I'm on dialup this would me some time to check them all to see if there are any other better possibilities. You might want to have a peek at Child Apprentices from England 1617-1778 at http://rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/index.htm#childapprentices Good luck! -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Dear List, I am searching for a Reese D. Powell that sailed on a ship to the United States through the Port of New York on January 12, 1860. Is it possible for someone to locate his name on a ship manifest for that exact date possibly coming from Liverpool? Liverpool is just a guess. His country of origin is Wales and lived out his life in Scranton, Pennsylvania. I do not know who might be traveling with him or if he might be traveling by himself. His age would be 20 years old. According to the information below they say his age was under 18. I would like to find out what other family members might be traveling with him. I have received his 1871 Lackawanna County Pennsylvania Naturalization documents that include the following information: Reese D. Powell Born South Wales in June 1839 Emigrated and arrived at the Port of New York in the United States on the 12 day of January 1860. It also says he was under the age of 18 when he arrived in this country, and that for three years last past it has been bonfide his intention to become a citizen of the United States. He entirely renounces and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign Prince, Potentate, State, and Sovereignty whatever, particularly to Great Britain of whom he was before a subject. Thomas M. Morris was duly sworn and is well acquainted with the above-named petitioner and verifies that Reese D. Powell has resided in the U.S. for five years last past. Thank you for taking the time to look. Gratefully, Carolyn

At 07:51 PM 2006-06-08 -0700, Cindy Burgwin wrote: >I am attempting to locate information regarding the Ship Julius Caesar and >its sailings around 1830, if any such information exists. Family history >has it that my husband's ancestors came on the Julius Caesar from England >to the Pennsylvania area around 1830. Cindy, I noticed the email from Marj where she mentions the Julius Caesar (a bark / ship) which was sailing from London to Quebec. I think though that yours was a "packet ship" mentioned in the advertisement below. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/1824a.htm New Line of Liverpool Packets :— We understand that a new line of Packets has been established to run from Liverpool to Philadelphia, and sail on the 20th of each month. It consists of the ships Florida, Julius Caesar, Delaware, Colossus and Courier : and is owned we understand, by Messrs. Spackman & Wilson, and John W. Downing, of Philadelphia, and by Mr. Jeremiah Thompson, of this city. Several of these vessels have traded to this port : the business attached to which will now centre in Philadelphia. There is now two lines of packets between Philadelphia and Liverpool. — American paper Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Cindy The London Times lists the ship Julius Caesar in 1829 and 1830 sailing back and forth to Quebec. [Times, Aug 4, 1830] Regards.. Marj At 10:51 PM 6/8/2006, Cindy Burgwin wrote: >I am attempting to locate information regarding the Ship Julius Caesar and >its sailings around 1830, if any such information exists. Family history >has it that my husband's ancestors came on the Julius Caesar from England >to the Pennsylvania area around 1830. > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >TO CONTACT >LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

On 8 Jun 2006 at 19:51, Cindy Burgwin wrote: > I am attempting to locate information regarding the Ship > Julius Caesar and its sailings around 1830, if any such > information exists. Family history has it that my > husband's ancestors came on the Julius Caesar from England > to the Pennsylvania area around 1830. You're in luck, because PA ships lists have been kept, and are on microfilm, as far back as 1800 (it was not a requirement that they be kept until 1820) There are indexes you can use to search for the surname you are interested in For a complete list of film numbers for ships going to PA after 1820, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_pa.shtml Find the film you need and write down the NARA or Family History Centre film number you need. Then you can order the film in to your nearest FHC or have NARA do the lookup for you. The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee If you want to try your luck ONline, there is a custom search engine that will search most Internet sites with ships going to PA. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ and choose PENNSYLVANIA from the state choices. Scroll down to the yellow search engine. Lorine http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_pa.shtml Passenger Lists to PA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchpaships.shtml Custom Search Engines Internet-wide for Ships to PA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_pa.shtml NARA & FHC film nos. from 1820 for immigration -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

I would very much like details of this ship; she was sailing from Liverpool to Dublin on 8th August 1822 when she ran aground, soon after sailing. Many passengers were lost but some were saved, including Madame Marie Tussaud (the waxworker). Any info on this ship, including a picture if possible, would be great. Thank you Tony Weston

I am attempting to locate information regarding the Ship Julius Caesar and its sailings around 1830, if any such information exists. Family history has it that my husband's ancestors came on the Julius Caesar from England to the Pennsylvania area around 1830.

Charles You might find some interesting reading at http://www.washington.edu/uwired/outreach/cspn/curklon/main.html http://www.explorenorth.com/library/yafeatures/bl-treasureships.htm http://seattle.about.com/od/klondike/ And... on TSL pages at http://www.theshipslist.com/accounts/dawson.html Regards.. Marj At 11:11 PM 6/7/2006, Charles Mallette wrote: >Hi Gang, > > I wish to inquire into a particular area of temporary immigation -- by > that I mean the Klondike Gold Rush. > > Many of the Americans went by ship. Are there particular sites for > miner and prospector ships and passenger lists? Were there passenger > lists initiated and recorded? It would appear that most, if not all of > the Americans, sailed from Seattle, bound for Skagway, Alaska. [Those > must have been the days!!] A Great Grand Uncle of mine, Isaac Mallette, > was one of those thousands. > > I would appreciate any assistance and/or suggestions.... > > Chuck > Houston > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Hi all, Re: T-4823 LAKE MICHIGAN Antwerp, Belgium 1911-02-22 St. John, N.B. 1911-03-11 In an earlier response to another subscriber, Sue mentioned that the Lake Michigan had "...some passengers to hospital". I believe my maternal grandmother (mgm) was one of those and wonder about a couple of things: 1. Was there a separate page on the microfilmed manifest that listed those hospitalized passengers? 2. Any way of finding any information about which hospital and what the reason was for the hospitalization? And while I'm here, is anyone aware of any Antwerp departure lists (like the Hamburg Lists)? Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated! Best regards, Shel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I would love to see the postcard. My grandmother came over on the Aquitania in 1921 from Southampton to Ellis Island. >From: "Sea Run" <searun@peoplepc.com> >To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TSL] Aquitania >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:58:09 -0400 > >Hi Sue & List - > >For those who have a particular interest in the AQUITANIA, I have a >(British Made) postcard photo taken of her in the floating dry dock at >Southampton. No date given, but the sender of the card wrote that it "is >an old picture of the ship.." There may be some clues in dating the >postcard photo as it was numbered #2153 - and the photographer/publisher >was "F.G.O. Stuart" > >I'll be glad to pass this along to Sue to include with the other Aquitania >pictures. > >Cheers! > >Rob Jackson, USA > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >TO CONTACT >LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

On 8 Jun 2006 at 9:24, Dave Dixon wrote: > My Thomas Wm. SNOWDON, his wife Marjorie and daughter Agnes > sailed from Scotland to the U.S. and settled in the town of > Scofield, Carbon County, Utah in the period 1887 - 1889, > where they remained until 1900. Thomas was listed as an > Apprentice Fitter at age 19. Would anyone hazard a guess as > to:- > > a. What purpose would they go to that > location? b. What would most likely be > their port of entry? > It's hard to say what port --- usually you would try the ports closest to the destination but that's not always the case. However, there are indexes to ships passenger lists for most ports for the time period of interest to you. You can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link, then find the film # you need, then decide whether to order it in to a nearby FHC or have NARA do a lookup. The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee. To find your nearest FHC you can go to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp There are some ideas for researching hard to find ancestors on ships lists after 1820 at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/usaaft1820.shtml You might also want to try naturalization records, if you need to narrow your time span for looking. There is an explanation and Resource Guide to Naturalization Records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/ For a Resource Guide to the records, what you can expect to find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding those important years (immigration and naturalization) at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Read the intro then choose your state of interest. There are also many links to searchable online naturalization records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Choose your state of interest from the list at the bottom of the page then click on ONLINE records. Good luck! Lorine --New Databases online http://olivetreegenealogy.com/freedata.shtml

My Thomas Wm. SNOWDON, his wife Marjorie and daughter Agnes sailed from Scotland to the U.S. and settled in the town of Scofield, Carbon County, Utah in the period 1887 - 1889, where they remained until 1900. Thomas was listed as an Apprentice Fitter at age 19. Would anyone hazard a guess as to:- a. What purpose would they go to that location? b. What would most likely be their port of entry? Thank you. Dave. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/358 - Release Date: 6/7/2006

Rob Jackson <searun@peoplepc.com> posted: >> For those who have a particular interest in the AQUITANIA, I have a (British Made) postcard photo taken of her in the floating dry dock at Southampton. No date given, but the sender of the card wrote that it "is an old picture of the ship.." There may be some clues in dating the postcard photo as it was numbered #2153 - and the photographer/publisher was "F.G.O. Stuart" >> F.G.O. Stuart was a well known local postcard publisher in Southampton, and his cards, around 2,500 in total, are very collectable. His local views of Hampshire and his real photographs of ships are perhaps the best known. He died in 1923, but the business continued until 1937. My wild guess is that the picture of the Aquitania in dry dock was taken in the early twenties. Many of his pre-WWI cards were printed in Germany, and the fact that the card was British Made, and of the Aquitania, which was built in 1914, suggests a post war date. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Chuck - A distant relative of mine, Eben McAdam of Montreal, headed for the Gold Rush the hard way in 1898-1899 - he hiked there on foot with a band of other men and were much of the time in severe weather forging ahead in deep snows and very cold temps. He didn't make a penny on any claims he may have staked as far as we know...but stayed in Dawson City for the rest of his life. The North American Transportation and Trading Company (N.A.T. &.T Co.) and the Alaska Commercial Company provided ships and a fleet of river vessels to get passengers and supplies into the Klondike. The N.A.T.& T. Co had offices in Chicago and Seattle. From Lloyd's Register, they operated a sea-going steamer "SS ROANOKE" that had "electric lights" and a 500 passenger capacity. Good luck on your research- Rob Jackson

Jim, Photo at http://www.shawsavillships.co.uk/frankfurt.htm regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Foster" <earljfoster@sherbtel.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:22 PM Subject: [TSL] Photo of SS Frankfurt 1899 > Hi > Do you know of any websites that would have aphoto of the SS Frankfurt > 1899. I have two groups of family members that come over on the Frankfurt > from Bermen. > The first family came over about April 20 1909 to Baltimore. The second > group came over in 1910. > Thank You for any help you can give me. > Jim > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >

Hi Gang, I wish to inquire into a particular area of temporary immigation -- by that I mean the Klondike Gold Rush. Many of the Americans went by ship. Are there particular sites for miner and prospector ships and passenger lists? Were there passenger lists initiated and recorded? It would appear that most, if not all of the Americans, sailed from Seattle, bound for Skagway, Alaska. [Those must have been the days!!] A Great Grand Uncle of mine, Isaac Mallette, was one of those thousands. I would appreciate any assistance and/or suggestions.... Chuck Houston

Correction: the computer gremlins ate part of my earlier post! Sharon (LegmDavis@aol.com) posted: > I believe my gggrandfather is on this ship: > F.(Frederick) DINKELACHER, age 26; farmer from Wuerttemberg, GE; > departed Le Havre for NYC, arriving 15 Jul 1853 on George Hurlburt Indeed Germans to America (book) lists Dinkelacher on this ship. The correct name is George Hurlbut (with one r). According to the New York Daily Times (name of New York Times in 1853) the ship actually arrived on July 19. Arrival Report, New York Daily Times, July 20, 1853 Arrived New York, July 19 Ship George Hurlbut, [captain] Major, Havre June 2, mdse. and 627 passengers to [agent and owner] E. D. Hurlbut. Has had four deaths on the passage. The George Hurlbut is described on Lou Alfano's site http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/ships.htm -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Sharon (LegmDavis@aol.com) posted: > I believe my gggrandfather is on this ship: > F.(Frederick) DINKELACHER, age 26; farmer from Wuerttemberg, GE; > departed Le Havre for NYC, arriving 15 Jul 1853 on George Hurlburt Indeed Germans to America (book) lists Dinkelacher on this ship. The correct name is George Hurlbut (with one r). According to the New York Daily Times (name of New York Times in 1853) the ship actually arrived on July 19. Arrival Report, New York Daily Times, July 20, 1853 Arrived New York, July 19 Ship George Hurlbut, [captain] Major, Havre June 2, mdse. and 627 passengers to [agent and owner] E. D. Huon the passage. The George Hurlbut is described on Lou Alfano's site http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/ships.htm -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Marie, You are correct. Between 1946 - 47 she carried war brides and was returned to Cunard in 1948. In 1948-49 she made 25 austerity voyages between Southampton and Halifax with emigrants, displaced persons and the last remaining troops. See http://ocean-liners.schuminweb.com/ships/aquitania.asp regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie MacLeod" <macl@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: [TSL] Aquitania > My mother was a warbride from the second world war...she came to Nova > Scotia from England in 1946...I was reading the description of the > ship on your website and it stated: > "on 25th May 1948 started her first Southampton - Halifax voyage with > war brides" > For sure, 1948 is not a correct date for the war bride voyages > happening because she came over in 1946. I have a postcard of hers > from that voyage...it is a bit different than the ones you have posted > for that passenger ship. It is a side view rather than the front end > views. Did you wish me to scan that for you sometime? > > Also, may I ask you a question?...From your experiences, where did the > ships from Scotland arrive in Nova Scotia with passengers in the > 1815-1820 period...was it mostly Pictou? Were there ships arriving > also in Halifax and Liverpool, Queens County, Nova Scotia? I am > trying to track down people during that period who became the founding > settlers of our small community of Caledonia, Queens County, Nova > Scotia....100 miles southwest of Halifax...its main town is Liverpool. > > I hope that my email is not an inconvenience since I can well imagine > that you are a very busy person. Thank you for all the work you and > your partner have done in maintaining the Ships Lists website. It is > truly an amazing site for so many people!! > Marie MacLeod, Nova Scotia > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:TheShipsList-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > Leave Subject Line empty * Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in body of message > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >