http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/45cc5cb7c20526ef85256529004f20f0/a9fcbc574f33102385256b5b00088d91!OpenDocument Who you are looking for? Paulette Shipper wrote: > good day, > I am looking for information on how long the voyage from Glasgow to > Quebec usually took in an attempt to locate the ship my great > grandfather came over on. He left aboard the SS Miaca August 13 1887 > from Iceland probably to Glasgow with a destination of Winnipeg. I am > attempting to see what ship passenger list to check in the reels. > > thanks much > > Ken Eastveld > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > REMEMBER - Posts to the list and/or digest MUST be sent to: > TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > >
Hello, SUBJECT: SHIP PARAGON - <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />UK>NYC 1838 <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> This request is for information relating to my Great Grandfather: HENRY SQUIRE FROST born April 7, 1826 in Yexam (Yacksam), near Norwich, England died June 5, 1895 at LaMotte, Jackson, Iowa. Exhaustive Internet research and search of LDS passenger lists has failed to find any reference to his emigration/immigration. Henry Squire Frost immigrated with his Mother and Step-Father in1838 when he was 12 years old. His biography states: the lad enjoyed the long ocean voyage from the moment the good ship "Paragon," under Capt. Cadiz, left her moorings at London until she dropped her anchor in New York harbor eight weeks later Family members traveling in 1838 with Henry Frost were: 1. Mother, Maria Ward [Frost] [Brand] born 1798 in Yacksam, England, died 1885 in Jersey City 2. Step-Father, Henry Brand born 1808 in England died in Jersey City 3. Brother, John Frost b 11 OCT 1817 in Yacksam is assumed to traveled with the family, although his biography indicates he immigrated at age 15 which would be 1832 (the same year their father Isaac Frost of Wian-Farthing, England died) 4. Brother, William Frost (younger) 5. Sister, Maria Frost (younger) NYC> NJ> IA Upon arrival, the family settled in Jersey City, New Jerseys where Mr. Brand (Henrys stepfather) was engaged in the gardening business. Henry worked on a farm nearby and later worked as a wagon maker, then raised oysters and manufactured green-house sash until moving to LaMotte, Jackson County, Iowa in about 1856. Henry Frost married twice: 1. Elenor Welsh married 1846 in Jersey City (11 children including my grandfather) and 2. Nancy Burroughs Griswold, married 17Aug 1880 in Jackson County Iowa (2 children) Henry Frosts Ship of Immigration I have found many Ships named Paragon including several sailing around 1838, but no records or mention of a Paragon sailing from England to the USA during that specific year and no clues to the emigration/immigration of Henry Frost. Any information is appreciated or tips for me to follow-up. I live in Alexandria, VA with access to resources around the National Capital if anyone has guidance for me to make use of these valuable resources. Regards, Wayne Frost ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!
At 11:52 PM 2006-06-14 -0300, Ken Eastveld wrote: >good day, >I am looking for information on how long the voyage from Glasgow to Quebec >usually took in an attempt to locate the ship my great grandfather came >over on. He left aboard the SS Miaca August 13 1887 from Iceland probably >to Glasgow with a destination of Winnipeg. I am attempting to see what >ship passenger list to check in the reels. > >thanks much > >Ken Eastveld Hi Ken, I see there were tons of Icelanders . . mostly for Winnipeg, and sailing from Glasgow in 1887. In July some ships had hundreds and hundreds. There were 23 ships from Glasgow to Quebec in 1887, but these two were the only August departures (after the 13th) From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4536 BUENOS AYREAN Glasgow, Scotland 1887-08-20 Quebec, Que. 1887-08-30 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (O): Icelanders (33) - faded manifest page List Number: 70; Captain James Scott C-4536 SIBERIAN Glasgow, Scotland 1887-08-26 Quebec, Que. 1887-09-05 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 74; Captain Robert P. Moore; stowaway: (5) sent to Montreal I see I've made a notation about a faded page on the most likely ship, so I hope it isn't too faded. Often a 'faded' page would just make it difficult for a transcriber unfamiliar with the names, but as you know who you are looking for, you should be able to find him. The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889458 ~ 1887 ~ port of Quebec Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/
Hi Sharon, Details of a couple of companies which operated on these routes at http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/bermuda.htm and http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/lamport.html Details of the MAYARO - PEGU / MAYARO 1900 3,896 gross tons, length 359.9ft x 45.0ft, single screw, speed 11.5 knots. Accommodation for 48-1st class passengers. Built 1900 by W. Denny & Bros, Dumbarton as the PEGU for Burmah Steamship Co. (P. Henderson & Co.), Glasgow. 1911 sold to Trinidad Shipping & Trading Co. Ltd, Glasgow renamed MAYARO. 1921 transferred to Bermuda & West Indies S.S.Co. Ltd (Furness, Withy & Co. Ltd), Hamilton, Bermuda. 1929 scrapped at Briton Ferry, UK. regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anderson" <sharander@cox.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:28 PM Subject: [TSL] Ships from South America > Hi all, > > There are very few records online regarding the ships from South America > to the US. My father-in-law migrated from British Guiana in the early > 1900s and the SS Mayaro. I know that there were many ships leaving from > Georgetown, British Guiana, Trinidad and Jamaica but few records. I was > able to find grandfather-in-law's second arrival on Ellis Island's website > but unable to find his first entry to the US. > > I know that European arrivals and ships records are available but cannot > find out more about the ships from South America....does anyone know more > about them? > > Sharon > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > >
Hi all, There are very few records online regarding the ships from South America to the US. My father-in-law migrated from British Guiana in the early 1900s and the SS Mayaro. I know that there were many ships leaving from Georgetown, British Guiana, Trinidad and Jamaica but few records. I was able to find grandfather-in-law's second arrival on Ellis Island's website but unable to find his first entry to the US. I know that European arrivals and ships records are available but cannot find out more about the ships from South America....does anyone know more about them? Sharon
good day, I am looking for information on how long the voyage from Glasgow to Quebec usually took in an attempt to locate the ship my great grandfather came over on. He left aboard the SS Miaca August 13 1887 from Iceland probably to Glasgow with a destination of Winnipeg. I am attempting to see what ship passenger list to check in the reels. thanks much Ken Eastveld
I labeled the ship a steamer in my previous message. I have discovered that the ship indeed was a clipper schooner. The original message was----- "I am searching for the steamship John J Taylor which is supposed to have had a shipwreck somewhere between New Orleans and Tampa, Florida. My husband's ggrandfather was the master of this ship. He died and there were other deaths, so I am told. Whether this ship was lost or simply wrecked I don't know. There is supposed to be a newspaper article which reports the wreck and the loss of Alexander Black and at least one other passenger. The ship was based in Tampa FL. The ship was owned by either the McKay family or the Farris family. This wreck occurred in 1859 or 1860. Any help would be greatly appreciated." I have also learned that the ship was owned by the W. G. Ferris and Son, Tampa FL. I also have another question. Are there lists of Ships masters in Scotland in or around the 1820-1840s in Scotland? Again any help will be appreciated. Margaret Black Mt. Pleasant SC
hi again, When I first went to Steve's one steps and searched for this ship, I got zero hits for Adriatic in 1913-1915. That is when I sent my first message. Then Sue, our list admin, wrote to me to say she had LOTS of hits! So I went back, searched again and lo and behold THIS time I got hits. Lots of them. I guess it was a brief computer glitch, but in any case you might want to go and take a look for yourself. http://www.stevemorse.org/ Lorine On 12 Jun 2006 at 20:03, TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com, <bleney@comc wrote: > > > On 12 Jun 2006 at 13:29, Beth Leney wrote: > > > > > > James Allen, an electrician, born 10-9-1883 in Plymouth > > England He came over on June 4-5,1914 from England on the > > Adriatic leaving from Liverpool He lived at 427 7th ave, > > Brooklyn Ny -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
In a message dated 6/12/2006 1:30:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, bleney@comcast.net writes: James Allen, an electrician, born 10-9-1883 in Plymouth England He came over on June 4-5,1914 from England on the Adriatic leaving from Liverpool He lived at 427 7th ave, Brooklyn Ny You may think he was born Plymouth but every other source may believe it was some small parish, it is a hard task working thru those. From where do you have him born Plymouth? I too tried and the minute you plug in Devon you lose all hits. Eliz
In a message dated 6/12/2006 7:44:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, otg@csolve.net writes: Be very very careful to be creative in your ancestors surname spelling! Also, since you have a month and year, why not search using Steve's One steps for ships arriving that month? Try using the nicest (I think) feature of stevemorse.org, the begins with feature, it isn't too good with my Coogans or Cogans but for many being able to drop a problematic ending is a real blessing. Even tho you have a year try bracketing the date, just incase they didn't get it right <G> my family did remember well, many don't. Eliz
On 12 Jun 2006 at 13:29, Beth Leney wrote: > > On his Declaration of Intent Papers he said he was: > > James Allen, an electrician, born 10-9-1883 in Plymouth > England He came over on June 4-5,1914 from England on the > Adriatic leaving from Liverpool He lived at 427 7th ave, > Brooklyn Ny > > This guy does not seem to exist in England or on any ships > record, I have looked everywhere. He is not on that boat nor > was he born on that date??? > Beth You have one very good piece of info there -- because an immigrant who arrived after June 29, 1906 could not naturalize until the government located their immigration record (a passenger list). Petitions (not the Declarations) after 1906 have information that has been verified and matched to an immigration record. In fact a a certification of the immigrant's arrival record was a required part of the process The easy way to remember is to think of opposites: BEFORE 1906, the Declaration has more useful genealogical info than the Petition (usually) and AFTER 1906 it's the opposite - the Petition is more useful and accurate than the Declaration So, the declaration you found might not be correct. I did a quick look of Ellis Island using Steve Morse's one steps at http://www.stevemorse.org -and there is NO ship named Adriatic entering NY from 1913-1915. So you need to find his petition as it seems he either arrived on a different ship, a different date OR via a port other than NY. For a Resource Guide to the records, what you can expect to find, where to find them, and alternate sources of finding those important years (immigration and naturalization) at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ Read the intro then choose your state of interest. There are also many links to searchable online records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/ Since you are looking for POST 1906, you can also go directly to INS for a search (full details are found online at NaturalizationRecords.com) -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
Hi, I am new here so bear with me please. I am looking for any information on the James family, specifically John James, who was the Master of the Ship The Mermaid in the early 1700's. He made runs from Liverpool, England to Baltimore, MD. He died in 1727. That is the only info I have. Can anyone help with this? I would appreciate it very much. Scott Lawson ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
Hi Any hints would be apprectiated. My grandfather cannot be found!!! On his Declaration of Intent Papers he said he was: James Allen, an electrician, born 10-9-1883 in Plymouth England He came over on June 4-5,1914 from England on the Adriatic leaving from Liverpool He lived at 427 7th ave, Brooklyn Ny This guy does not seem to exist in England or on any ships record, I have looked everywhere. He is not on that boat nor was he born on that date??? Any hints where else to look Thanks Beth Leney Looking for Allen-Crowther-Mucci-LaMaida On Ice Marketing, Inc. d/b/a HockeyKnowItAll.com d/b/a SoccerKnowItAll.com 44 Wycliffe Rd East Walpole, MA 02032 508-660-5480 Fax 508-668-5663 bleney@onicemarketing.com
On 11 Jun 2006 at 22:18, David Schoenberger wrote: > My great grandfather's immigration papers (Anton > Schoenberger) say that he arrived at the port of New York > Sep 1893 from Bavaria. > > I have never found a passenger list or ship for him at Ellis > Island, Ancestry, Castle Garden, or ISTG. Are there other > sources available to me? > If your ancestor arrived in 1893 that is far too late for Castle Garden. As you no doubt realize, Ellis Island records are online. They include ships to New York from 1892-1924 You should use Steve Morse's one-step search engine to search this set of records, at http://stevemorse.org/ There is a quick tutorial on how best to use the search engines at http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/ Click on "Oddities of Searching Ellis Island! What have you found? " Be very very careful to be creative in your ancestors surname spelling! Also, since you have a month and year, why not search using Steve's One steps for ships arriving that month? Both NARA & LDS have films with the New York passenger lists. You could search through microfilm (but you can also do this online) Ships are on the reels in order of date of arrival, so all you need to do is find the film number that has your arrival date on it. Then order it in to a nearby Family History Centre, or request a lookup from NARA. When you get the film, scroll through to find your date but if your ship isn't there, be sure to check more thoroughly on the film - the lists aren't always exactly in chronological order. For a complete list of film numbers for ships (and passenger lists) going to New York after 1820, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml Also see the URLs below: http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml NARA & FHC film numbers for NY passenger lists after 1820 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny.shtml Passenger Lists to New York all years http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchnyships.shtml Search Engine for online Internet Passenger Lists to NY
I have just put up a new website regarding this ship. At this point, I am looking for information about the ports and identification of crew. As I receive new info, I will update the site. Your input is appreciated. _http://www.geocities.com/united_states_victory/_ (http://www.geocities.com/united_states_victory/) Daryl Ann
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Hello i am new to this list and is looking for a ship i beleive called ELCISPE which landed in South Africa in 1849, The people that i am looking for is James Rich with wife and 5 children. I am looking for a James Henry Hunt Rich who was in south africa and a son was born to him called George Rich born cape town 1866. He came home at the age of 11 years old on ship which i do not know working his passge I was told can you help me sandy
*new* for TheShipsList website http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page. New for June 2006 is . . . o Fleets new: o Koninklijke Nederlandsche Stoomboot Maatschappij, Amsterdam / Royal Netherlands Steamship Co. o McIlwraith MacEacharn / The Scottish Line Two more new fleets . . . the first is a big one and Dutch (great poster) and the other is another interesting sailing ship Fleet, which operated between mostly London and Australia (predominantly Brisbane). Ted and I offer thanks to Fraser Morrison of Inverness for providing us with the details of this Fleet. There were more steamships (cargo), other than the two passenger steamships we have incuded. o Pictures: o Aquitania After our Aquitania discussion on-list, Rob Jackson sent me a great FGO Stuart postcard image of Aquitania in dry-dock at Southampton.......thanks Rob o Passengers: o New Swiftsure - 13th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 16th July 1824 o New Swiftsure - 14th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 23rd July 1824 o New Swiftsure - 15th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 29th July 1824 o New Swiftsure - 16th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 6th August 1824 (including brig Glory passengers, from Belfast) o Quebec - 16th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 6th August 1824 (including brig Glory passengers, from Belfast) o New Swiftsure - 17th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 13th August 1824 o New Swiftsure - 18th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 20th August 1824 . . struck a rock , returned to Quebec o Quebec - 18th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 20th August 1824 o New Swiftsure - 18th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 27th August 1824 . . continued trip Six + more lists for steamboat New Swiftsure in 1824, plus I jumped ahead and have included two steamboat Quebec lists for 1824. This is a situation where the steamboat lists offer up some real gems. The 16th New Swiftsure trip on August 6th includes 93 passengers who had cut a "sweet deal" on their fare from Quebec to Montreal. They were identified as being from the brig GLORY from Belfast, which had arrived at Quebec on August 4th. Then the Quebec steamboat list, also of August 6th, didn't identify any passengers particularly, but offered the same "deal" to all steerage passengers aboard, 60+ of those appear to be the balance of the brig GLORY passengers. The 18th New Swiftsure trip almost ended in tragedy, as it struck a rock at the Richelieu and was in a sinking state, but was taken in tow of the steamboat Quebec and returned to Quebec City, where the passengers transferred to that steamboat for their trip to Montreal. In addition to notes about immigrants, there are many "cabin" passengers who were holidaying in Montreal, with side trips to Quebec who appear on the steamboat lists as well as published lists as Hotel Guests. (the newspaper accounts can be found at the arrivals link in the navigation bar, but also from the steamboat lists themselves) The origin of those people is truly amazing, as they don't only come from New York, Baltimore, Philadelphia etc., but also Carolina and even Louisiana ! I don't know about you, but I tend to think of our ancestors at this time suffering hardships, not about them flitting around North America on holiday . . . in 1824. I suppose it is all relative (maybe the exchange rate was really good in 1824 <smile>) <<Our city has been overflowed with strangers during the last month ; the principal hotels have been so thronged that great difficulty has been experienced in procuring agreeable entertainment, previous to the departure of the Steam Boats for Quebec . . . >> Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy ! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/
My great grandfather's immigration papers (Anton Schoenberger) say that he arrived at the port of New York Sep 1893 from Bavaria. I have never found a passenger list or ship for him at Ellis Island, Ancestry, Castle Garden, or ISTG. Are there other sources available to me? David Schoenberger, North Carolina
On 9 Jun 2006 at 21:38, Carolyn wrote: > I am searching for a Reese D. Powell that sailed on a ship > to the United States through the Port of New York on January > 12, 1860. Is it possible for someone to locate his name on > a ship manifest for that exact date possibly coming from > Liverpool? You can get this passenger list on microfilm or by using the online databases at Ancestry.com. Try Steve Morse's one step search engines at http://www.stevemorse.org/ Or check the complete list of film numbers (NARA or FHC) for ships going to New York after 1820. Find your date (year, month, day) and write down the NARA or Family History Centre film number you need http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml For more help with this time period see "Castle Garden: Ships Passenger Lists to New York 1 Aug.1855 - 18 Apr. 1890" at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/castle-garden.htm Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com