Hello I am researching Captain Charles Alfred Kellett who was commander of the Chinese junk the "Keying". He sailed her, with a mostly Chinese crew, but with British officers from Hong Kong to London via Boston and New York. He departed Hong Kong 5 December 1846 and arrived in Gravesend, London 28 March 1848. I have a wealth of material regarding this voyage and of the Keying itself. Apart from being often mixed up with the exploits of Sir Henry Kellett of the Royal Navy (no relation), the only details I can find about the man are those directly related to the Keying's voyage to London. There are NO RECORDS for him in the usual places. These are the places he is NOT found: 1 TNA: PRO BT 127/9 - Index to Registers of Certificates of Competency and Service, Masters and Mates, Home and Foreign Trade (1845-94) 2 TNA: PRO BT 127/10 - Index to Registers of Certificates of Competency and Service, Masters and Mates, Home and Foreign Trade (1845-94) 3 TNA: PRO BT 115/6 - Register of Seamens Tickets (Original Register) - Alphabetical List of Masters (1845-54) 4 TNA: PRO BT 143/1 - Certificates of Competency and Service, Misc. (1845-1850) 5 Guildhall Library: Index to Lloyds Captains Register, surnames beginning K 6 Charles Hardy: A Register of Ships employed in the Service of the Honourable the United East India Company - from the year 1760 to the Conclusion of the Commercial Charter with an Appendix and Supplement, containing a Variety of Particular and Useful Information, interesting to those who were concerned with the East India Service (London: Parbury, Allen & Co., 1835) 7 Index to the Names of Captains and Officers 1790-1819 8 Index to the Names of Captains and Officers 1813-33 9 Anthony Farrington: A Biographical Index of East India Company Maritime Service Officers 1600-1834 (London: The British Library, 1999) Kellett is said to have been born in 1820 in Plymouth (from son's birth certificate) - no record. Kellett is said to have been married in 1840 in Liverpool (from son's birth certificate) - no record. It has been suggested that he could have been married on board ship. I have no death record for him, though one family story has him dying around 1865, but this could be just a myth. He was obviously wellknown in maritime circles of the time as it was reported in the "Illustrated London News" of 1 April 1848 that "... On the occasion of her departure [from HongKong], she received on board his Excellency Sir John Davis, the Governor; Admiral Sir Thomas Cochrane, and all the officers of the fleet, the Commander-in-Chief, and most of the principal residents; and she sailed from the harbour under a salute from the vessels of war, which was effectively returned by the Keying's guns." Having seen where Kellett is NOT to be found, can anyone suggest where I could continue my search for this man. It is said that Kellett sailed the China-Australia route at some time. Where would the records for Officers of these ships be held? As you can see I have reached a brick wall and do not know where to turn next. Can you help please? Regards Susan Simmons New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 16/06/2006
Lorinne, Thank you so much for your reply. I appreciate your help but I would like to ask you one more question if I might. A genealogist told me they (ARNOLD) came on the Allegiance but I cannot even find a ship by that name. Is is possible it is just not listed anywhere other than on the passenger lists?? Seems strange I cannot find the name at all and I have looked. I will try your suggestion though. This is something I really do want to find. I t means a lot to me. Have been working on this a long time and this is the closest I have been, I think. According to the history of Daviess County Kentucky Jacob Arnold immigrated in 1856 from Germany. I am sure he came to New Orleans. Leopold came a few years earlier. Thanks Judy Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: >On 18 Jun 2006 at 21:54, Judith Arnold wrote: > > > >>Anyone who replies to this message would be helping me also. >>Please send replies to the list as I need information about >>the Allegiance. Judy >> >>eile wrote: >> >> >> >>>Can anyone recommend a good ship site with records that >>>would include New Orleans' arrivals going back to 1830? >>> >>>I am looking for a ship that arrived in N.A. on >>>12/10/1832, from Le Havre. >>> >>>The family is the Hirzels. A relative found the record, >>>but never made a copy of it. >>> >>> >>> > >You can get this on microfilm or CD ROM. It will be hit and >miss whether or not you find it online. > >The WPA (Works Project Administration) indexed names for >New Orleans passengers. Vols. 1, 2 and 3 of the 6 volumes >they prepared are found on microfilm M2009 from NARA. It >covers the years 1813-1849. Vol. 5 is missing; Vol. 4 & 6 >have not been filmed. > >You can also consult CD#358 "New Orleans Passenger & >Immigration Lists, 1820-1850" > >See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_la.shtml for >information on these resources. > >For a complete list of NARA and FHC microfilm numbers for >LA, see >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_louisiana.shtml > >Ships Passenger Lists to Louisiana after 1820 can be found >at >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_la1820.shtml > >To search multiple websites at once, see the page "Search >FREE Ships Passenger Lists to Louisiana" (528 ships ) at >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchlaships.shtml > > >Good luck! > >Lorine > >-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > >* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ >* Naturalization Records >http://naturalizationrecords.com/ >* Images of Ships Lists >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > >otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com > > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > > > >
My information is from a "family story', but I can always hope. The story goes : Francis Stitt, youngest of 14 children sailed from the northeast coast of Ireland and came to Hartford, Connecticut in 1798. He married a widow named "Butler", they had a son, John. When John was four the mother died, Francis took theboy to a family named Hall in eastern Massachusetts and left him to their care. He returned to the sea. During the war of 1812 he was captured by the British. After the war he bought back his ship, went to Mass. , married Mehitable Hall, sold his ship and settled in Berkshire Co. I find him there, but what happened before is just a story. The fact that other statements of the story have proved to be correct, leads me to think there is some truth to the ship and ship captain story. Any suggestions as to how I can further investigate this? Thanks in advance. Lillian Stitt DeHart
Annette The Montcalm sailed from Liverpool on March 21, according to an ad in "The Times." She was a ship of the CPR line and you can find her details here: http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/cp.html and http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsM.html Regards.. Marj At 11:19 AM 6/17/2006, Annette Fulford wrote: >Could you please tell me more about this sailing of the SS Montcalm? It >reportedly arrived on March 27, 1924 at St. Johns, NB. Where was the ship >sailing from? I am helping another person find info on their family. I >believe the family should be found in the Form 30A lists and not on a >regular passenger list. I just wanted to know details about this sailing >before I send them the microfilm number they should search for the family. > >Thanks! > >Annette > > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
looking for the maxey family on or appart of a ship crew in the years of 1690 or 1691 to match the family records that they arrived from norfolk, alderman england to norfolk virginia in america. to view my info visit www.maxeysofwarrick.com and click maps page.
On 18 Jun 2006 at 20:57, virginia miller wrote: > I am looking for information about Janet/Jennie McOmish born > in Madderty, Perthshire, Scotland in 1833 or 34. She was in > Glasgow in the 1871 census. In December of 1879 she was > married to John Wismer in Clinton Township, Ontario. I > think she had come to that community because her sister, > Elizabeth, had lived there since 1857. I would like to find > when and on what ship Janet travelled. Regards, Virginia > The good news is that the National Archives of Canada (NAC) holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. The bad news is that the records before 1925 are not indexed. To find a passenger you will need to know an exact date of arrival. There is no easy way to search Canadian arrival records for the unindexed period other than reading microfilm. Ships are on the reel, in order of arrival. You can find the details at this URL http://www.archives.ca/02/020202_e.html If you want to order filmed passenger lists (remember they aren't indexed!), a list of NAC microfilm numbers for passenger lists to Canada 1865-1922 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_can1865.shtml If you are patient, you will soon (?) be able to search these unindexed years! Library and Archives Canada plans to digitize passenger lists for 1865 to 1935 as part of their new Moving Here, Staying Here online exhibition at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/immigrants/index-e.html ********************** What's Available Online in Passenger Lists If you want to try your luck searching transcribed ships passenger lists online, passenger lists for Ships to Canada after 1865 are freely available at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1865-now.shtml Home Children (1869-1930) database indexes from ships passenger lists is available at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/020110_e.html ********************** There are search engines to search online free databases on multiple websites for ships to Canada at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml The Ontario Archives has an index to the assisted immigration registers created by the Toronto Emigrant Office between 1865 and 1883. Over 29,000 entries have been transcribed from the registers. http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/db/hawke.htm ********************** Miscellaneous Websites with Immigration Information on Ships to Canada after 1865 The Ships List http://www.theshipslist.com/ Ships Passenger Lists Online http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ Finding Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://shipslists-online.rootschat.net/canada/ Ships Passenger Lists to Canada 1865-1930 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocan1865-now.shtml -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
On 18 Jun 2006 at 21:54, Judith Arnold wrote: > Anyone who replies to this message would be helping me also. > Please send replies to the list as I need information about > the Allegiance. Judy > > eile wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend a good ship site with records that > > would include New Orleans' arrivals going back to 1830? > > > > I am looking for a ship that arrived in N.A. on > > 12/10/1832, from Le Havre. > > > > The family is the Hirzels. A relative found the record, > > but never made a copy of it. > > You can get this on microfilm or CD ROM. It will be hit and miss whether or not you find it online. The WPA (Works Project Administration) indexed names for New Orleans passengers. Vols. 1, 2 and 3 of the 6 volumes they prepared are found on microfilm M2009 from NARA. It covers the years 1813-1849. Vol. 5 is missing; Vol. 4 & 6 have not been filmed. You can also consult CD#358 "New Orleans Passenger & Immigration Lists, 1820-1850" See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_la.shtml for information on these resources. For a complete list of NARA and FHC microfilm numbers for LA, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_louisiana.shtml Ships Passenger Lists to Louisiana after 1820 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_la1820.shtml To search multiple websites at once, see the page "Search FREE Ships Passenger Lists to Louisiana" (528 ships ) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchlaships.shtml Good luck! Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com
Immigrant Ships transcribers Guild (www.immigrantships.net) has some New Orleans ships. Let me know what you need and I'll check Ancestry. Ines At 07:12 PM 6/18/2006 -0700, eile wrote: >Can anyone recommend a good ship site with records that would >include New Orleans' arrivals going back to 1830? > >I am looking for a ship that arrived in N.A. on 12/10/1832, from Le Havre. > >The family is the Hirzels. A relative found the record, but never >made a copy of it. > >Thanks. > >best, >Paul > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >TO CONTACT >LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >
Anyone who replies to this message would be helping me also. Please send replies to the list as I need information about the Allegiance. Judy eile wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good ship site with records that would include > New Orleans' arrivals going back to 1830? > > I am looking for a ship that arrived in N.A. on 12/10/1832, from Le > Havre. > > The family is the Hirzels. A relative found the record, but never made > a copy of it. > > Thanks. > > best, > Paul > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TO CONTACT > LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > >
I am looking for information about Janet/Jennie McOmish born in Madderty, Perthshire, Scotland in 1833 or 34. She was in Glasgow in the 1871 census. In December of 1879 she was married to John Wismer in Clinton Township, Ontario. I think she had come to that community because her sister, Elizabeth, had lived there since 1857. I would like to find when and on what ship Janet travelled. Regards, Virginia
Can anyone recommend a good ship site with records that would include New Orleans' arrivals going back to 1830? I am looking for a ship that arrived in N.A. on 12/10/1832, from Le Havre. The family is the Hirzels. A relative found the record, but never made a copy of it. Thanks. best, Paul
I need to know which ship the following two men came to the U. S. on. *James Keet* b. ca. 1820 in Hampshire, England and his brother *Josiah T. Keet* b. ca 1823 in Hampshire, England. Their parents were *Charles* and *Ruth HALE Keet*. I have information that they immigrated to and settled in Arkansas by 1839 and subsequently became merchants in Barry Co. MO by 1842-44. I would like to fine, year and place of arrival, naturalization or other record of immigration, source of record and any names of accompanying family members together with their age and relationship to the primary individual. Thanks, Patrick
Hello TheShipsList-L, I have narrowed down the time frame my aunt and her husband went to Canada.....They married in Cathcart,Renfrewshire in March of 1908 and Her husband "joined" The Prince Pupert Pioneers in May,1908.... does anyone have any ideas of what port or ship they would have gone on??? regards Betty Best regards. John and Betty Sheather kapyong@bigpond.com 2006-06-18 Created with Foxmail 5.0 e-mail client. You can get it at http://www.GoodFreeSoftware.netfirms.com
Here is the account of a death on the St. Lawrence river steamer Quebec. Montreal Gazette, August 31, 1871 SUDDEN DEATH An inquest was held yesterday by Mr. Coroner Jones on the body of a man named Daniel McLaren, 55 years of age, who died on the steamer Quebec on Tuesday night [Aug. 29] between Quebec and this city. A verdict of death from heart disease was returned. Deceased belonged to Mount Forrest, Ont [sic], to which place his body will be sent. The deceased had just returned from a visit to Scotland. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------
"Anne Spriggs" <easpriggs@adelphia.net> asked about a Pugh family who landed in New York 23 Aug. 1870 on the City of Washington. I can't help with the family but here is the arrival report (quite newsy). New York Times, 23 Aug. 1870 Arrived New York, August 22 Steam-ship City of Washington (Br.,) [captain] Jones, Liverpool Aug. 11 and Queenstown 12, with mdse. and 618 passengers to [agent] John G. Dale. Experienced fine weather the entire passage. Aug. 15 lat 49 31 lon 29 21, passed ship Harvest Queen, hence for Liverpool; same time passed bark Thames (Br.) bound W.; 18th lat 43 28 lon 48 30, passed ship Athenais (Br.) from Antwerp for Philadelphia; same time passed a Cunard steamer bound E., 19th, lat 42 24 lon 51 35, exchanged colors with steam-ship City of Limerick, from Liverpool for New York; 21st, lat 41 12 lon 65 26, passed ship Trimountain, Williams from Liverpool for New York. On the same page was this note: The arrivals at Castle Garden yesterday were the Paraguay from Havre, with 112 emigrants, and the Colorado from Liverpool with 375; total, 487. [I wish the NYT had published these summaries every day.] -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Annette, At 08:19 AM 2006-06-17 -0700, Annette Fulford wrote: >Could you please tell me more about this sailing of the SS Montcalm? It >reportedly arrived on March 27, 1924 at St. Johns, NB. Where was the ship >sailing from? I am helping another person find info on their family. I >believe the family should be found in the Form 30A lists and not on a >regular passenger list. I just wanted to know details about this sailing >before I send them the microfilm number they should search for the family. Sure . . . the Canadian Pacific Steamships, Ltd. ship MONTCALM sailed from Liverpool, but the arrival date I show is Saint John N.B. 1924-03-29. I don't have the Liverpool sailing date, but if you learn that, maybe you can let me know. :-} . . . it is likely around 21-22 March. She carried a LOT of passengers . . . 321 cabin and 1,261 third class passengers. You are correct, it will be a form 30A record. Only Canada destined passengers will be found on the Form 30A record http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#1924 Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/
Could you please tell me more about this sailing of the SS Montcalm? It reportedly arrived on March 27, 1924 at St. Johns, NB. Where was the ship sailing from? I am helping another person find info on their family. I believe the family should be found in the Form 30A lists and not on a regular passenger list. I just wanted to know details about this sailing before I send them the microfilm number they should search for the family. Thanks! Annette
On 16 Jun 2006 at 15:21, Anne Spriggs wrote: > Castle Garden search shows Pugh family, Jane 26, William > 10, Thomas 7, David 5, Lewis 4, Ann 2 arrived 23 Aug. > 1870 on the City of Washington. Origin: England, Port > Liverpool. First you need to verify that this ship came into New York. Castle Garden website contains ships arriving in other ports, and unfortunately they are not noted as such. Try http://www.stevemorse.org/ to find out if that ship landed in NY that day. Next --- > I would like to get this sailing's(23 Aug. 1870) complete > passenger list. You can get it online (ancestry.com) or from NARA or by ordering in microfilm to a local Family History Centre. Once you know your state, you can get a list of film numbers (NARA & FHC) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nara_indexbyport.shtml Scroll down to the state you want and click on the link, then find the film # you need The staff of the National Archives will undertake a search of the original records for a fee but you must know the name of the ship, the date of arrival, and the port of arrival. To obtain a search request form, write to: General Reference Branch (NNRG), National Archives and Records Administration, 7th and Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20408 and request NATF Form 81, Order for Copies of Ship Passenger Arrival Records. To find your nearest FHC you can go to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml NARA & FHC film numbers for NY passenger lists after 1820 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny.shtml Passenger Lists to New York all years http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchnyships.shtml Search Engine for online Internet Passenger Lists to NY
Castle Garden search shows Pugh family, Jane 26, William 10, Thomas 7, David 5, Lewis 4, Ann 2 arrived 23 Aug. 1870 on the City of Washington. Origin: England, Port Liverpool. I have run different spelling trying to locate James(husband and father). James worked in the coal mines. There is a James Pugh age 22, farmer arriving on the City of London 5 Aug. 1868. He would be too young but I know the ages can be off. I would like to get this sailing's(23 Aug. 1870) complete passenger list. I have a note 806. Capt. Jones but now I don't know where I got that. Any help appreciated, Anne Spriggs easpriggs@adelphia.net
Hi, I am trying to find a departure record for Daniel Baker who sailed from England to Canada around January 1920.I am not sure which port he sailed from but it is likely that it was Southampton. I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has any relevant info. Many thanks, Brian Baker, Hants,UK