Hi Ruth, Was this a ship which came to the U.S. from Hamburg, Germany? If so, did the ship arrive directly from Hamburg or via another port such as England (indirect route), if known? I had found information this particular ship was ready to set for sail on July 4, 1923 - but I don't know if that was to the U.S. or not. Any specific dates for your Leusen ancestors as to their voyage? Kathleen _____________________________________________________ --- rujogi@comcast.net wrote: "...I'm researching the LEUSEN family and have found that PAUL LEUSEN came to America (New York) aboard ALBERT BALLIN in 1923 - arriving 1924..." "...Is there any way to get a list of crew members. I know that Paul Leusen was a fireman/steam boilers... ...His wife (or wife-to-be) also immigrated 1924 or 1925...Her name was BERTHA COCRAMON..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

My father had a certificate for having crossed the Equator also. He was in the Navy during World War II. Judy in Kentucky Nancie Johnson wrote: > I do believe that the others are correct, regarding the paper. My > father had a similar one, and it was for crossing the International > DateLine (I believe). I think he also had something for crossing the > equator. > He too was with the US Navy, stationed in the Solomon Islands and > Bouganville. He was with the VF-17, Skull & Crossbones aviation group > -- who flew the Corsairs into battle. He was on an air craft carrier > (the name I can't recall right now), but when the Corsairs were found > to not land well on the carriers (until changes were made), they were > all sent to the Solomon Islands. > Dad passed away in 1972 so I can not ask him, but I do have his things > packed away. I will go through them again to see if his "blue paper" > is intact. > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TO CONTACT > LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > >

I do believe that the others are correct, regarding the paper. My father had a similar one, and it was for crossing the International DateLine (I believe). I think he also had something for crossing the equator. He too was with the US Navy, stationed in the Solomon Islands and Bouganville. He was with the VF-17, Skull & Crossbones aviation group -- who flew the Corsairs into battle. He was on an air craft carrier (the name I can't recall right now), but when the Corsairs were found to not land well on the carriers (until changes were made), they were all sent to the Solomon Islands. Dad passed away in 1972 so I can not ask him, but I do have his things packed away. I will go through them again to see if his "blue paper" is intact.

I'm researching the LEUSEN family and have found that PAUL LEUSEN came to America (New York) aboard ALBERT BALLIN in 1923 - arriving 1924. Is there any way to get a list of crew members. I know that Paul Leusen was a fireman/steam boilers and may have served on this trip in that capacity. His wife (or wife-to-be) also immigrated 1924 or 1925 and could have a passenger on this same ship? Her name was BERTHA COCRAMON. Any information you may be able to share would e greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance for your help. Ruth Gilmore rujogi@comcast.net

Sir; My father passed away in 1985 and just this week I came across his wallet with a torn portion of "something". A blue paper with the name U.S.S.LURLINE. The parts I can read are,"Wherefore, he is duly inscribed as an honorary........."(next line) "of the ship's company, and a charter member....." It then says, "Order of The Magic Car...." The "witness" is "E.M. My father never spoke of the military, although I knew he was in it, and I'm wondering what, if anything, this might mean. Along with this paper, is an 'wallet-size' copy of his honorable discharge papers. If you could possibly give me some insight on this I would be truly grateful. (My mom has also passed away.)\ Thank you, Susan e-mail: sbellomo@comcast.net

At 04:21 PM 2006-06-30 -0300, Verna Zadow wrote: >My ancesters supposedly came to Canada from Prussia in 1881 on the >ship Curia. I have looked and looked and haven't been successful in >finding anything on this particular ship. Wondering if you can help. >Thanks in advance. > >Verna Zadow Hi Verna, I don't know of any such ship name, especially not arriving via a Canadian port. In 1881 there were no direct sailings from Germany to Canadian ports, although many Germans were transmigrants via Britain. This means they took "feeder ships" to England or Scotland, then embarked on a transatlantic ship from a major emigration port like Liverpool or Glasgow. Your ship name might have been a spelling variation on a "feeder ship" name or even the ship on which they sailed to Canada. There were 191 ships to Canada with immigrants in 1881 . . . the closest name is the Allan Line ship COREAN, from Glasgow to Quebec (4 trips) but that name is a bit of a stretch. The only alternative, if you are sure of the year, is to read microfilm . . The passenger manifests are on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reels, in order of arrival. You can borrow the reels on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS also have copies of the microfilms, their number LDS number 0889452 ~ 1881 to 1882-06--- ~ port of Quebec I see you have a Canadian email address. Here find a list of institutions in Canada who also have copies of the microfilms. You may have one close by http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-903-e.html Good Luck Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

At 03:18 PM 2006-06-29 -0600, Linda McDermott wrote: >My grandparents also, both sailed from Goteborg, Sweden...one in 1887 and >the other in 1889. They each boarded the ship "Orlando" and sailed from >Goteborg to Hull, England...and then traveled by rail to >Liverpool. Finding the next ship that took them to America was hard. In >fact, I still have not found the one my grandmother sailed on. I know >coming from Sweden to Hull, England took I believe about three days; then >time to cross by rail to Liverpool, and then they had to wait for the next >ship across the Atlantic. They both, according to the Orlando manifests, >sailed into New York City, but I can't find them on Castle Garden for that >time period. I'd also learned to add on two weeks for the crossing to >calculate a date for arriving at the port in NYC. >Linda Hi Linda, If their destination port on the ORLANDO list(s) was indicated as New York, then likely they did arrive via that port. The Castle Garden website records are not complete yet, but don't forget that you could be looking for spelling variations, or transcriber interpretations ;-{ As I'd mentioned to Marjorie, if your Swedish emigration information includes the name of the Swedish "Agent," then that will be a great clue for you. Also, if you know the date of departure from Goteborg, another great website is the Norway Heritage site http://www.norwayheritage.com/ It won't list the sailing dates from Goteborg for the ORLANDO, but it will include the same sailing date (or very close) for other Wilson Line feeder ships sailing from Christiania (Oslo). The ships took the same time to sail from Goteborg and Christiania, to Hull, so both Swedes and Norwegians emigrating at the same time would have embarked on the same ships at Liverpool. Trond has created a database "Emigrant ship arrivals 1870-1894" compiled from newspaper reports and telegrams home to Norway, confirming the mostly North American arrivals of emigrants on which ship. The best way to use the database is to go to this database "Index of departures 1825-1925" pick the year . . for example . . 1887 http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1887 then click on the "details" link for one of the feeder ships sailing from Christiania - Christiansand, to Hull. From the page returned, pick the date equal to or close to your Goteborg departure date, and click on the ship wheel beside that record. . . for example . . I picked June 10th 1887 and it returns this page which is the ROLLO http://www.norwayheritage.com/t_corresp.asp?id=2140 In the "M" column, an arrow equals a confirmed connect for ROLLO passengers, but no arrow doesn't mean no connecting passengers . . .just no report of connecting passengers. I know this above sounds complicated, but it isn't at all and is a fabulous under utilized resource which I use ALL the time :-} Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

At 12:09 PM 2006-06-28 -0600, PAUL FERRIN wrote: >I have information on my great grandparents leaving Sweden going to >Liverpool in August of 1877. >If I am reading this right they left on the ship Hull. I cannot find >where they sailed into America. They settled in Burlington, Iowa. Their >names were Clas Anderson and Anna Apelroth Anderson with 5 children. the >parents may have sailed at different times but the children were with Anna >on the Hull. >Thank you for this information. Also is there any information on ships >into Galveston Texas in 1880? > >Marjorie Ferrin Hi Marjorie, Linda gave you some great advice when she explained the route her ancestors took from Sweden to North America. They would have taken a "feeder ship" from Sweden to Hull, England (not a ship name but a place) and from Hull, a train trip to probably Liverpool to embark on a transatlantic steamship. As Linda mentioned, the whole trip, from Sweden to North America would have taken two weeks +/- Transmigration http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/transmigration.html If Anna and the children sailed alone in August 1877, then Clas might have preceeded her by weeks or months, maybe even the year before. With a destination of Iowa, they may have even arrived via Canada, but those records are not indexed or even scanned yet, but they are microfilmed and available from the Library & Arcives of Canada, as well as the LDS Family History Center. http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#lds If you have received Swedish emigration information for Anna and the children, then hopefully it includes the name of the Swedish "Agent" as that would give a clue to which shipping line, which in turn will lead you to the ship name and the North American port of arrival. Even the exact date of departure in August 1877 will really help you narrow the search as there are other resources I can point you toward. You can find links for ships and passengers to Galveston here, at Steve Morse's website http://www.stevemorse.org/ Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hello George, The ship I believe you should be researching for Geo. Wm. Young is Vessel Name: SURREY; Vessel Identification No.: 1143352 There is an account of this ship, in abstract form, of Naval personnel from the New Zealand Shipping Company being on board SURREY during a storm, in January of 1942. There were survivors and loss of life. The ship was taken out by a U-Boat in June of 1942 and did sink. For further information, review this internet URL: www.nzmaritimeindex.org.nz/ixsearchvessels.asp Information is also provided of a book title, which lists the names of those who lost their lives in the sinking of the ship. Kathleen Hannum --- George Young <george@georgeyoung.co.uk> wrote: I am looking for details of a ship called SS Surry, this was with the New Zealand Shipping Co in 1942, I believe it was sunk, where and by whom I don't know My uncle George William Young was a member of the crew... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Ron, At 12:54 PM 2006-06-30 -0400, CGRON@aol.com wrote: >Another avenue of research would be to check the border crossing records >between Canada and the U.S. Most of the records will show the ship on >which they >traveled to get to this area. This information is normally at the bottom of >the page for the "border crossing" The CAN-US border records (St. Albans Lists) are always a great idea for those researching US destined passengers arriving via Canada, but only from 1895 on. Before that year, although immigrants in the many thousands used that route (especially through the port of Quebec), none of those US border ports were manned, nor were records maintained. http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

My ancesters supposedly came to Canada from Prussia in 1881 on the ship Curia. I have looked and looked and haven't been successful in finding anything on this particular ship. Wondering if you can help. Thanks in advance. Verna Zadow

I am looking for details of a ship called SS Surry, this was with the New Zealand Shipping Co in 1942, I believe it was sunk, where and by whom I don't know My uncle George William Young was a member of the crew, nothing is known, can you help, any suggestions most welcome. George A Young

You have the ship "THE OLBIA"of the Fabre Line/Compagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur Cyprien Fabre & Compagnie listed . But I find nothing else on this ship. How can I find the ships list of passengers who came to New Orleans in 1899-1900 from Palermo, Italy on THE OLBIA. Thanks Mary

I remember my husband speaking of going to the So. Pacific on the SS Lurline. He was with the USNavy attached to the Marines 1st Division and served in Guadalcanal and the Solomon Islands. He passed away September 18, 1999. Seeing the name the Lurline brought back memories. I know they used it as a troop transport ship. I don't know anything about the blue paper but it may be from crossing the equator. Susan Bellomo, the first message I tried with your email address was returned as unknown.Jean bunch

Susan, The wallet-sized honorable discharge paper may have served a dual purpose for the actual discharge from the military and as an identification card. Please note, I do not have a military background, so I am hoping someone can also assist with a factual basis for the "Charter Member" portion of your inquiry. There has been in the past, a hundreds year old tradition that anyone from the Navy or Merchant Marines who has crossed the equator, becomes inducted into a "society", for having crossed the equator. This was true for the British and American forces, however other nationalities may have had something similar as well. The induction took place at the actual crossing, no matter what time of the day or night ("lights out") or in perilous conditions or not. The USS Lurline was a luxury liner owned by the Matson Line. During WWII and its' aftermath, it had been converted into a U.S. Troop Ship. Some of its' movements can be traced from San Francisco, Hawaii, Manilla, Tokyo and Australia during and after the WWII. The USS Lurine was used by the Zebra Platoon - a group of Naval Military Intelligence Officers. There is an article on-line regarding this platoon, written by Kojiro Kawaguchi. You can enter the information in any search engine and find the pertinent information. There is a small compact bit of history on The Matson Line at: www.maritimematters.com/matson.html I hope some of this may be of help and others may be able to assist with further information, especially as regards to the "charter member" paper you have discovered. Kathleen Hannum --- Susan Bellomo <sbellomo711@comcast.net> wrote: Sir; My father passed away in 1985 and just this week I came across his wallet with a torn portion of "something". A blue paper with the name U.S.S.LURLINE. The parts I can read are,"Wherefore, he is duly inscribed as an honorary........."(next line) "of the ship's company, and a charter member....." It then says, "Order of The Magic Car...." The "witness" is "E.M. My father never spoke of the military... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Linda, Without your immigrant names, it would be rather difficult to check passenger arrivals to the USA or Canada. If you'd kindly submit their names, maybe someone on this list could assist in tracking them down. No promises, but many on this list are very helpful and quite possibly help you. In doing research myself, I have to tell you it is not an easy task tracking down immigrants that sailed on a feeder ship from Sweden, Germany, France etc etc to England or other ports of departure to the USA or Canada. But it can be done. Beverly Mack Zanon Charter Member/ISTG Research Team _http://www.immigrantships.net_ (http://www.immigrantships.net/) ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:18:55 -0600 From: "Linda McDermott" <lmcdermott@copper.net> To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <005601c69bc1$a24d82e0$f7c0e404@LINDA> Subject: Re: [TSL] Swedish immigrants Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My grandparents also, both sailed from Goteborg, Sweden...one in 1887 and the other in 1889. They each boarded the ship "Orlando" and sailed from Goteborg to Hull, England...and then traveled by rail to Liverpool. Finding the next ship that took them to America was hard. In fact, I still have not found the one my grandmother sailed on. I know coming from Sweden to Hull, England took I believe about three days; then time to cross by rail to Liverpool, and then they had to wait for the next ship across the Atlantic. They both, according to the Orlando manifests, sailed into New York City, but I can't find them on Castle Garden for that time period. I'd also learned to add on two weeks for the crossing to calculate a date for arriving at the port in NYC. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: PAUL FERRIN To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: [TSL] Swedish immigrants I have information on my great grandparents leaving Sweden going to Liverpool in August of 1877. If I am reading this right they left on the ship Hull. I cannot find where they sailed into America. They settled in Burlington, Iowa. Their names were Clas Anderson and Anna Apelroth Anderson with 5 children. the parents may have sailed at different times but the children were with Anna on the Hull. Thank you for this information. Also is there any information on ships into Galveston Texas in 1880? Marjorie Ferrin ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* REMEMBER - Posts to the list and/or digest MUST be sent to: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Another avenue of research would be to check the border crossing records between Canada and the U.S. Most of the records will show the ship on which they traveled to get to this area. This information is normally at the bottom of the page for the "border crossing" Ron Bowman P.O. Box 300472 Escondido, Ca., 92030-0472 (760) 746-3610

My grandparents also, both sailed from Goteborg, Sweden...one in 1887 and the other in 1889. They each boarded the ship "Orlando" and sailed from Goteborg to Hull, England...and then traveled by rail to Liverpool. Finding the next ship that took them to America was hard. In fact, I still have not found the one my grandmother sailed on. I know coming from Sweden to Hull, England took I believe about three days; then time to cross by rail to Liverpool, and then they had to wait for the next ship across the Atlantic. They both, according to the Orlando manifests, sailed into New York City, but I can't find them on Castle Garden for that time period. I'd also learned to add on two weeks for the crossing to calculate a date for arriving at the port in NYC. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: PAUL FERRIN To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: [TSL] Swedish immigrants I have information on my great grandparents leaving Sweden going to Liverpool in August of 1877. If I am reading this right they left on the ship Hull. I cannot find where they sailed into America. They settled in Burlington, Iowa. Their names were Clas Anderson and Anna Apelroth Anderson with 5 children. the parents may have sailed at different times but the children were with Anna on the Hull. Thank you for this information. Also is there any information on ships into Galveston Texas in 1880? Marjorie Ferrin ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* REMEMBER - Posts to the list and/or digest MUST be sent to: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

I have information on my great grandparents leaving Sweden going to Liverpool in August of 1877. If I am reading this right they left on the ship Hull. I cannot find where they sailed into America. They settled in Burlington, Iowa. Their names were Clas Anderson and Anna Apelroth Anderson with 5 children. the parents may have sailed at different times but the children were with Anna on the Hull. Thank you for this information. Also is there any information on ships into Galveston Texas in 1880? Marjorie Ferrin

Kevin, The ship's name was "Tofua", a passenger-cargo ship owned by Union SS Co employed on the Pacific Islands run. She was built by Wm Denny at Dumbarton in 1908, 4345 gross tons, steamship, 14.5 knots. She had accommodation for 105 first and 43 second class passengers. 'Storekeeper' may well have been 'Engine room storekeeper', the senior ER rating. In her day she was a well known ship and you should be able to find plenty of references to her. Regards, Dave Edge. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kev Nicholas" <kni90687@bigpond.net.au> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:27 PM Subject: SS TUFUA >Would any lister have any record on the SS "TUFUA", it was given as the >address of my uncle Samuel Chambers [occupation; Storekeeper} when married >in 1910 in Sydney Harbour. I could assume he was part of the crew, but I >do not know if he was or not. >Wether the vessel was in dry dock, docked or had just arrived is unknown. > >Regards >Kevin Nicholas >Central Qld