Does anyone have any record of the sailing of SS Cameronia from Glasgow to New York in August/September 1940? The passenger list is not available in the National Archives in London.

Shannah Sue will give you the arrival details but it sounds like Clara is talking about Captain William H. Smith of the Allan Liner Parisian. The "immediatie" that you have should be "intermediate" what we would call second class but higher up than steerage (third class). The Grand Trunk was the railway at the time, later to be taken over by the Canadian National. Canadian Pacific was incorporated in 1881. Regards.. Marj At 05:13 PM 7/11/2006, Shannah Gillespie wrote: >I want help finding a passenger list for the above ship in which Clara P >Dawes sailed from her homeland England >Clara b. 11 April 1866 Stourgridge Worcestershire >sailed with father Alfred Dawes b. abt 1835 Cookley and sister Edith b >1875 England > > >I have her diary and this is the info I have gathered from the account >Left Londonderry 14 March and arrived in Halifax Sunday March 24 >150 immediatie passengers, mostly children >Entertainment by former caption of the Parision, Captain Smith >Another passenger was Mrs.Wells > >Took train to Quebec.. she stated she was not in the Canadian Pacific >passengers but "we belong to the Grand Trunk" arriving March 26. Does >anyone know what that means? >Crossed the St Lawrence through a tubular bridge 2 miles long on to >Montreal. Destination was Hamilton Ontario where her brothers Ernest b >1870 in Derbyshire and Fred b 1868 also Derbyshire were living. >An interesting side comment.... >May 24th Queens Birthday we saw "grand and wonderful Falls, the Wonder of >the World, The Canadian Falls by far grander." > >Thanks for any assisitance. >Shannah > > > > > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

I want help finding a passenger list for the above ship in which Clara P Dawes sailed from her homeland England Clara b. 11 April 1866 Stourgridge Worcestershire sailed with father Alfred Dawes b. abt 1835 Cookley and sister Edith b 1875 England I have her diary and this is the info I have gathered from the account Left Londonderry 14 March and arrived in Halifax Sunday March 24 150 immediatie passengers, mostly children Entertainment by former caption of the Parision, Captain Smith Another passenger was Mrs.Wells Took train to Quebec.. she stated she was not in the Canadian Pacific passengers but "we belong to the Grand Trunk" arriving March 26. Does anyone know what that means? Crossed the St Lawrence through a tubular bridge 2 miles long on to Montreal. Destination was Hamilton Ontario where her brothers Ernest b 1870 in Derbyshire and Fred b 1868 also Derbyshire were living. An interesting side comment.... May 24th Queens Birthday we saw "grand and wonderful Falls, the Wonder of the World, The Canadian Falls by far grander." Thanks for any assisitance. Shannah

After examining several manifests and comparing them to the actual (documented) age of traveling children, I have a question. What were the age restrictions for children's fares in the late 1800s? I have found two different cases where children were labeled as being age 9 when in actuality they were in their early teens. Thanks. Daryl Ann

From the NY Times of May 24, 1868, page 8. "Ship New World, Champion, London April 12, and Isle of Wight, with mdse. and 267 passengers to Grinnell, Minturn & Co. May 17, lat. 42 33 N., lon. 56 10 W., passed schr. Clara Sawyer, of Tremont, and brig Sunburst, of New-York, bound E. The N.W. had westerly gales to the Banks, and from thence light westerly winds and calms." Then, July 23, 1868, page 8 she sails back to London. Regards.. Marj At 02:03 PM 7/11/2006, GRACE H JOHNSON wrote: > Help My ancestors Thomas Keene and wife emily george keene came over >here from England on the (New World in 1868) thanks amagrano1@juno.com. >I.m trying to find info about the ship. New World. Anyhelp >appreciated. > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database >http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date >TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

I have been searching for my grt. grandfather and his brothers who came to the US from Scotland in 1893. - Nathan, James and Thomas McCubbin. I found Thomas McCubbin on the Etruria, but cannot locate Nathan and James. I do suppose it is possible that James and Nathan came over separately from Thomas. I do not find them on the Ellis Island lists. Does anyone have any ideas how to find out when and how they came over? Linda Call ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.fanninelectric.com

My dad was a Ships Radio Officer and Electrician in the Merchant Marines in WWII Oct. 1944 - May 1945. I don't think I can go thru Military Service Records(NNCC) because the Merchant Marines were not considered Military? I'm looking for info on dad and his ship. Any sites/advice is appreciated Thanks John ----------------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the individual or company to which it is addressed and may contain information which is privileged, confidential and prohibited from disclosure or unauthorized use under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this e-mail or the information contained in this e-mail is strictly prohibited by the sender. If you have received this transmission in error, please return the material received to the sender and delete all copies from your system.

Help My ancestors Thomas Keene and wife emily george keene came over here from England on the (New World in 1868) thanks amagrano1@juno.com. I.m trying to find info about the ship. New World. Anyhelp appreciated.

After being demolished by hackers, the Red Duster website is being rebuilt and is now back on line at http://www.red-duster.co.uk/ regards Ted

I recently answered a question about a voyage of the Eisenach which left Bremen about 14 May 1913 and arrived in Baltimore 9 Jun 1913. There was little about the ship in TheShipsList archives (not a surprise as she only made one voyage to North America). Ted Finch sent this extract: EISENACH / SANTAREM 1908 6,757 gross tons, 419.6ft x 54.5ft, single screw, speed 12 knots, accommodation for 50-1st and 900-3rd class passengers. Launched on 27th Jun.1908 by Bremer Vulkan, Vegesack for their own account and laid up until 9th Feb.1910 when she was purchased by North German Lloyd and started her maiden voyage from Bremen to La Plata. She was then used regularly on the Bremen - Boulogne - Lisbon - Madeira - Brazil and Argentina service. 1913 one voyage to Baltimore. 1914 sheltered in Pernambuco on the outbreak of war, seized by Brazilian authorities in 1917 and renamed SANTAREM. Used on South American coastal services from 1918 - 1922 and then chartered to French Line and used on their New York service. 1922 owned by Lloyd Brasileiro. 1940 nearly burnt out but run ashore and later salvaged and rebuilt with accommodation for 60-1st and 726-3rd class passengers. 1960 scrapped in Argentina. [Norddeutscher Lloyd, Bremen vol.1 by Edwin Drechsel] TSL archives did mention that there was a photograph in the book by Michael Anuta, "Ships of our Ancestors" I checked the picture and it looks like a 1908 steamer. NDL had two later ships named Eisenach, and Anuta is not always accurate in distinguishing between ships with the same name. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

To the List administrator & list members. Please be aware of my change of email address. It was :- hazzardks@dodo.com.au Is now:- hazzardsk@dodo.com.au Sorry to inconvenience you. Regards ........ Keith.

I am trying to locate the name of the Ship that My Ancesters came to the United States on from Lippe Detmold Germany, in May 1858, The name I have been searching for is Bollhoefer.

Does anyone know where I can look at ship lists from Ireland in the 1850's? Cheers June Martin

On 9 Jul 2006 at 0:28, HEBERT2@aol.com wrote: > I'm in Seattle. Looking for Ship name for above arrival date > at Boston, details taken from Boston 1821-1850 Passenger > and Immigration Lists online database from Ancestry.com. > Ancestor is "Michl"/Michael STANTON, arrival May 19, 1845, > 20 yrs old, port of arrival, Boston, Plce of Origin, > Ireland, Occupation, Laborer. NARA Series Number M277, > Roll # 18. > > M277 is not available at Pacific Region NARA at Seattle. To search multiple websites for ships to Boston, try the New England custom search engine at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml If you don't have success there, try the USA search engine at http://www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger.html You can also search offline, meaning microfilmed lists.Thse can be sent to a FHC. For a complete list of film numbers for ships going to Mass. after 1820, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_mass.shtml Find your date (year, month, day if known) and write down the NARA or Family History Centre film number you need. Then you can order the film in to your nearest FHC or have NARA do the lookup for you. Good luck! -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

On 9 Jul 2006 at 17:31, cjmartin wrote: > Does anyone know where I can look at ship lists from Ireland > in the 1850's? > You didn't say what country of arrival you wanted. So, the following applies to both USA and Canada -- There are a few surviving passenger lists which were kept by shipping agents in the originating country. The Passenger Books of J & J Cooke, Shipping Agents gives sailings from Londonderry to Quebec, St. John New Brunswick, New Orleans Lousiana and Philadelphia Pennsylvania from 1847 to 1871. These are online at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/jjcooke.shtml There are other resources specific to each country (USA or Canada) but without knowing which (if either) of those 2 countries you want, listing them would be a lot of work :-) Lorine -- Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * Images of Ships Lists http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

I'm in Seattle. Looking for Ship name for above arrival date at Boston, details taken from Boston 1821-1850 Passenger and Immigration Lists online database from Ancestry.com. Ancestor is "Michl"/Michael STANTON, arrival May 19, 1845, 20 yrs old, port of arrival, Boston, Plce of Origin, Ireland, Occupation, Laborer. NARA Series Number M277, Roll # 18. M277 is not available at Pacific Region NARA at Seattle. Hoping for Ship name and passsenger list that cites "Michl" Stanton. I know it's not likely the list will show his hometown or county, but giving it a try. The above info was confirmed also in his Naturaliztion document located in Dodge County, Wisconsin, 3rd Judicial Circuit Court, dated 28 February, 1878. Michael had lived in Trenton, Dodge County, WI with his wife Mary Madden Stanton and children Michael Miles, Peter, William, Joseph and Edward (dau Mary died in early childhood) since 1850 per U.S. Fed Census 1850-1880. Both "Michl" and Mary were born in Ireland. The children were born in Cambridge, MA (Michael Miles) and Trenton, Dodge County, WI (the remaining 4 boys and one girl). Any info or suggestions welcome. Thanks much, Liz2

"Moira Elsley" <mani2studio@amtelecom.net> asked about a sailing from Southampton on the Aquitania, arriving in Halifax on October 25th, 1948. Sue Swiggum commented: > That is a little curious, as I would have expected this trip to sail > to Quebec / Montreal! I don't know the limits for Quebec but very large ships, which would include the Aquitania, Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth, are not able to reach Montreal. There are limits to the water depth available, and also, particularly since the building of the Jacques Cartier bridge at Montreal in 1930, limits to the masthead clearance. I believe the post-war Cunarders, Franconia etc., which were built for the Montreal route, had masts designed to clear the bridge. TheShipsList archives indicate that the Aquitania did sail to Quebec, which surprised me. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Moira, At 08:38 PM 2006-07-07 -0500, Moira Elsley wrote: >Hi. > >I sailed from Southampton on the Aquitania, arriving in Halifax on October >25th, 1948. I was aged 9, my brother John Malcolm Ferguson, aged 11 and my >mother, Jessie Robertson Ferguson (nee Millar) was 32. We had travelled >from the outskirts of Glasgow, Scotland to Southampton, England for the >sailing. My father, James Ferguson, sailed on the Queen Mary, landing in >Halifax 6 months ahead of us, but am uncertain if he departed from >Southampton or Glasgow, Scotland. That is a little curious, as I would have expected this trip to sail to Quebec / Montreal ! My records confirm the arrival date, with 448 first class and 1,375 tourist class passengers, but just state "westbound arrival" which could have been Quebec / Montreal or Halifax. At 9 yrs old, you would remember though. <smile> The Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth, together with the Mauretania sailed only to New York in 1948, with only one Mauretania trip (Nov. 11) being diverted to Halifax. They too sailed from Southampton via Cherbourg and Cobh. The Queen Mary arrived at New York . . April 06 April 20 May 05 May 20 June 07 June 21 >Would anyone know where I might find passenger lists for the Aquitania and >the Queen Mary for 1948? Also, is there anyone out there who sailed on >these ships at the same times? Or is there anyone who may be related to >either my mother or father? My maternal grandfather was Albert Millar, >Glasgow, Scotland and my paternal grandparents were Mary and John Ferguson >of Largs, Scotland. Because of Canadian privacy laws, post 1935 Canadian passenger records are still in the custody of Citizenship & Immigration. You can make application under "freedom of information" for your own record, however certain conditions apply when wanting to consult the landing record of others. What will be received is an extract from the passenger list rather than a photocopy of the list itself. Because you won't have access to a copy of the passenger list itself, you'll have to make individual requests for any other persons . . or maybe just include them all on your request . . make sure you check the conditions below to include any required documentation. Hopefully your mothers and brothers information would be provided to you with your personal request, as you were travelling together. I would definitely try for all the records if I were you even if they don't meet the required conditions, as they are your immediate family and could be all listed adjacent to one another. ========================================================================= Post-1935 Immigration Records Records of immigrants arriving at Canadian land and sea ports from 1 January 1936 onwards remain in the custody of Citizenship and Immigration Canada. Requests for copies of landing records should be directed to the undernoted office: Citizenship and Immigration Canada Public Rights Administration 300 Slater Street 3rd Floor, Section D OTTAWA, Ontario K1A 1L1 Please note that the following conditions apply: Applications for copies of documents must be submitted on an "Access to Information Request Form" by a Canadian citizen or an individual present in Canada. Fee: $5.00, payable to the Receiver General for Canada The request must be accompanied by a signed consent from the person concerned or proof that he/she has been deceased twenty years. Proof of death can be a copy of a death record, a newspaper obituary or a photograph of the gravestone showing name and death date. The request should include the following information: full name at time of entry into Canada, date of birth, year of entry. Additional information is helpful, such as country of birth, port of entry, and names of accompanying family members. For access to your own landing record, please visit or write to your nearest Canada Immigration Centre or Canadian Consular Office. Fee: $30.00 for a certified copy for legal purposes. If you do not require a certified copy, you can submit your request on a Personal Information Request Form at no charge. Copies of Access to Information Request Forms and Personal Information Request Forms can be obtained from most Canadian public libraries and federal government offices. Forms: http://www.privcom.gc.ca/fs-fi/02_05_d_11_03_e.asp http://infosource.gc.ca/index-e.html Best of luck Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Hi Cheryl, At 03:42 PM 2006-07-08 -0300, Wayne & Marlene wrote: >I found an old picture in my grandmother's belongings. A group 34 >people with the U.S. capitol in the background. It is labeled: >Swedish American Line Party >Steamer "Kungsholm" >at Washington, D.C. July 2. 1929 > >Also it says: >photo by >DeSouza Bros. > >Do you know of any way to find out who is in the picture? I don't >know why my grandmother would have it; we know she was not in the >picture. Thank you for any information. > >Cheryl Matysek >bcmaty@sbcglobal.net The Swedish American Line ship KUNGSHOLM had arrived at New York on June 30th 1929, with 23 first clas, 57 second class and 189 third class passengers. I wonder if it was a tour group from the ship? The ship wasn't cruising, rather was on a regular passenger schedule, but I don''t see why people couldn't have treated it as a cruise if they wanted . . it sailed again from New York on July 3rd 1929 with 1,745 passengers. There are other possibilities of course, and extended tour, or a conference they were all attending . . . in Washington ? You might research the Washington newspapers, and even the New York papers to see if such a group was mentioned. I can't advise you myself of how to get a passenger list for that June 30th arrival, but it wouldn't be too helpful unless the group was identified in some manner. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I found an old picture in my grandmother's belongings. A group 34 people with the U.S. capitol in the background. It is labeled: Swedish American Line Party Steamer "Kungsholm" at Washington, D.C. July 2. 1929 Also it says: photo by DeSouza Bros. Do you know of any way to find out who is in the picture? I don't know why my grandmother would have it; we know she was not in the picture. Thank you for any information. Cheryl Matysek bcmaty@sbcglobal.net