I was told that my Arnolds came on the Allegiance. I cannot find any ship even named that much less passenger lists or immigration or naturalizations. I must be really dense. I have been on Ancestry, Olive Tree and cannot find anything. Jacob Arnold came into New Orleans in 1856. Traveled to Indiana. Some time ago someone sent me a picture of the ship but I cannot ever find where they got that. There was also Leopold Arnold, his wife Annie, Jacob's wife Elizabeth and GodfreyArnold. Please help me, Judy

Hi Liz, I found your earlier email. Did the family arrive on the CALIFORNIA on April 6th 1916? At 04:45 PM 2006-07-21 -0300, ekloman1@juno.com wrote: >My German grandfather married a Liverpool woman in 1909 and they had 3 >children, all born in England. When World War One started, the English >began interning German nationals. My grandfather told my dad that he >'slipped over the border from Canada'. And on the 1930 census, he does >cite 1914 as the year of entry. They were living in Falmouth from 1912 or >so. But grandmother had a large family in Liverpool and Liverpool is the >residence she gave on the manifest when she & the kids came over, arriving >at Ellis Island in 1916.. >So he would have come in on a ship out of Falmouth or Liverpool, to a >Canadian port before it iced up - August to what, October, 1914? Where >would the manifest be? How could I access it? Thank you for your help. >Liz If so, I see them listed as Elizabeth Klomer (rather than Kloman), 28 ; Grace Lillian 5, Peter Leslie, 3 and Paul, 2. They were leaving mother / grandmother Alice Hughes . . Kirkdale, Liverpool, going to husband Peter Klomer, 322 East 51st St. NY. Is that the right family ? I guess this is the right family as I see them in the 1920 census, Essex, NJ and it also says 1914 for Peter and 1916 for Elizabeth and the children. Peter Leslie is called Leslie Peter and they have another som Alan, 2 years and 10 months old. Peter was born in Baden. On one page the family name is Kloman (transcribed as Koman / Klaman) and on the second page as either Klamman or Klauman. It is interesting to note that in 1930 Elizabeth is now Lillian and she and Peter and Leslie and Paul are being shown shown as being born in New Jersey, the same as Allan. I wonder who gave the information? As an aside . . . when you send a query, it is always a good idea to include as many details about the family as you can. You never know what records other listers may have access to. :-} There were over 450 ships from England carrying passengers to Canada in 1914, then if you add in those arriving via US ports, another 200+. There was Halifax and St. John as well as Quebec. Of those to Quebec, there were so very many for the period you want to know about. By far your best approach is to keep in mind all the possible spellings, and then search the index for the passenger manifests for the CAN-US border records, the St. Albans lists. US via Canada http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans M-1461 Soundex Index to Canadian Border Entries through the St. Albans, VT, District After you locate the NARA microfilm number, make sure you check the link called "Immigration Microfilm CATalog Converter" to check the LDS film numbers for the same microfilm. The card index will tell you lots of details should you find Peter. If you find him (because it is really quite possible he travelled under an alias) you will be pointed toward the arrival manifest NARA M-1464, which will tell you the ship and port of arrival, so then you can also go after the Canadian record for the same arrival. Those are not indexed, so this why it is great if you can find him on the St. Albans record. If he did "work passage" as a waiter, you might have to settle for ship arrival information, as there will be no Canadian record for service crew. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

This is the first time I've ever subscribed on digest mode & I think my original email got lost in the ether. No matter; here is the gist again; My German grandfather married a Liverpool woman in 1909 and they had 3 children, all born in England. When World War One started, the English began interning German nationals. My grandfather told my dad that he 'slipped over the border from Canada'. And on the 1930 census, he does cite 1914 as the year of entry. They were living in Falmouth from 1912 or so. But grandmother had a large family in Liverpool and Liverpool is the residence she gave on the manifest when she & the kids came over, arriving at Ellis Island in 1916.. So he would have come in on a ship out of Falmouth or Liverpool, to a Canadian port before it iced up - August to what, October, 1914? Where would the manifest be? How could I access it? Thank you for your help. Liz

I'm brasilina, please I wish a photo (any) of ship NAPOLI.

John Pauser was born 24 Aug 1861 somewhere in Bohemia. Naturalization records show 2 different arrival months in NY, March also June 1889. Ship name/departure port unspecified. I have been unable to find him in Family Tree Maker's Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s 2005 Edition nor in Ancestry.com's Immigration NY Passenger Lists Arrival Years 1851-1891. He settled in Northern WI and died in Park Falls 12 Feb 1944. Wife Theresa Kralicek born 19 Aug 1863 and son Rudolph born 1888 also immigrated but not certain whether they came together of separately. Would like to find ship name/port of embarkation.

Hello Grace, You *might* find some clues to help at... Passenger Ships from Ireland to America 1732-1749 http://www.genealogybranches.com/irishpassengerlists/ships.html Happy searching. Regards, Joe -- Genealogy Roots Blog (for finding online records & resources) http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/ grace <geejayh@psci.net> wrote: > I am looking for information on Hugh Kennedy who immigrated from Dublin to > Pa in 1742-the captain of the ship is Martin Hughes. Any info will be > greatly appreciated.

At 11:16 AM 2006-07-21 -0300, marydani@comcast.net wrote: >Do you have any information on a voyage from Liverpool in September of >1937. I think it was the last, safe voyage from England. I was on board >with my parents and baby brother. I was just two years old, so don't >remember the trip. We were supposed to arrive in New York, but because of >the war, had to take the Northern route through Canada. We apparently had >survivors from the voyage of The Athenia(I think), which had sailed a week >earlier, and had been torpedoed. > >Thank you > >Mary Seymour Daniel Hello Mary, I only have basic voyage information, as the passenger list is not publically available. The Duchess of Atholl was sailing regularly to Canada up to the last trip arriving at Quebec on October 22nd 1939, before she was requisitioned for trooping in December 1939. http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsD.html DUCHESS OF ATHOLL Liverpool, England Quebec, Que. / Montreal, Que. 1937-09-18 (CPSSC) Canadian Pacific Steamships The Athenia was the first ship lost at the outbreak of the war on September 3rd 1939. I expect you are sure that your trip was 1937 rather than 1939, as the 2nd last Duchess of Atholl trip (before requisitioning) arrived at Quebec on September 23rd 1939, which could fit with your family history. Because of Canadian privacy laws, post 1935 Canadian passenger records are still in the custody of Citizenship & Immigration. You can make application under "freedom of information" for your own record, however certain conditions apply when wanting to consult the landing record of others. What will be received is an extract from the passenger list rather than a photocopy of the list itself. Make sure you check the conditions below. ========================================================================= Post-1935 Immigration Records Records of immigrants arriving at Canadian land and sea ports from 1 January 1936 onwards remain in the custody of Citizenship and Immigration Canada. Requests for copies of landing records should be directed to the undernoted office: Citizenship and Immigration Canada Public Rights Administration 300 Slater Street 3rd Floor, Section D OTTAWA, Ontario K1A 1L1 Please note that the following conditions apply: Applications for copies of documents must be submitted on an "Access to Information Request Form" by a Canadian citizen or an individual present in Canada. Fee: $5.00, payable to the Receiver General for Canada The request must be accompanied by a signed consent from the person concerned or proof that he/she has been deceased twenty years. Proof of death can be a copy of a death record, a newspaper obituary or a photograph of the gravestone showing name and death date. The request should include the following information: full name at time of entry into Canada, date of birth, year of entry. Additional information is helpful, such as country of birth, port of entry, and names of accompanying family members. For access to your own landing record, please visit or write to your nearest Canada Immigration Centre or Canadian Consular Office. Fee: $30.00 for a certified copy for legal purposes. If you do not require a certified copy, you can submit your request on a Personal Information Request Form at no charge. Copies of Access to Information Request Forms and Personal Information Request Forms can be obtained from most Canadian public libraries and federal government offices. Forms: http://www.privcom.gc.ca/fs-fi/02_05_d_11_03_e.asp http://infosource.gc.ca/index-e.html Best of luck Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Do you have any information on a voyage from Liverpool in September of 1937. I think it was the last, safe voyage from England. I was on board with my parents and baby brother. I was just two years old, so don't remember the trip. We were supposed to arrive in New York, but because of the war, had to take the Northern route through Canada. We apparently had survivors from the voyage of The Athenia(I think), which had sailed a week earlier, and had been torpedoed. Thank you Mary Seymour Daniel

Confusion over this immigrant ship built 1848 as Ronald Parsons book "Hamburg immigrant ships" state she was sold to de Serratea in Valparasio in 1865 and changed its name to "Daniel". The American Lloyds list shows a vessel of 421 (Hamburg tons ) built 1865 at Reiherstig named Daniel . Is this the same ship and or what became of it ?.Vaughan

Hello Linda, See http://www.kinshipsprints.com/catalog/ships/c/canopic.htm or http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/ and use the search box (slow loading) regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Logue" <misty8133@YAHOO.COM> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: [TSL] Canopic > Hello I am in need of assistance with your wonderful site. I have been > at this for a couple of hours now. My family the Ferrandini's came > over from Naples on the Canopic, I have the manifests, and now have > the descrption and that is so wonderful. For the life of me I can not > find the picture of that ship, will you help me please? Than you. My > e-mail is misty8133@YAHOO.COM Thank you so much for your time in this > matter. Linda Ferrandini > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >

I am looking for information on Hugh Kennedy who immigrated from Dublin to Pa in 1742-the captain of the ship is Martin Hughes. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Hello I am in need of assistance with your wonderful site. I have been at this for a couple of hours now. My family the Ferrandini's came over from Naples on the Canopic, I have the manifests, and now have the descrption and that is so wonderful. For the life of me I can not find the picture of that ship, will you help me please? Than you. My e-mail is misty8133@YAHOO.COM Thank you so much for your time in this matter. Linda Ferrandini

Hi Joy, At 02:27 PM 2006-07-20 -0400, JKersteter@aol.com wrote: >I need someone to "check" my logic. > >According to the passenger list in the archives of the Police Chamber of >Goteborg, Vol EIX:4:299:1654, Ingar Petersdotter, and her daughter Johanna >Johansdotter left Sweden on Sept 30, 1870 on the ship Orlando (Orlando 1, >Wilson >Line) for Hull, England, her destination was Duluth, Minnesota. The >emigrant agent >was Frederick Nelson. In checking information at Sweggate.com he represented >the Inman line. We have a write-up about the *new* Wilson Line ships Rollo and Orlando, from the Illustrated London News, 2nd April 1870 http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/rollo.html >Would it be safe to assume that she sailed to the US on an Inman ship since >her agent represented that line? It should be, but because of the year and her destination, I wonder whether Nelson was also agent to other lines? I thought that Nelson was only Inman agent 1868-1869 . . but 1870 wasn't such a stretch and my info may not be 100% on agent dates as I have John Odell as Inman agent 1871-1890. >The Inman ship sailing from Liverpool closest to the date of Ingar's leaving >Goteborg is the Etna, which sailed Oct 10, 1870 from Liverpool, arrived at >Halifax, Oct 21, 1870. It says it also went to New York and Philadelphia. The >chart on theshipslist.com shows the Etna leaving New York, Nov 4 and >arriving in >"Queenstown" November 16. You are right about the closest Inman Line ship to her Swedish emigration date being the ETNA. Coincidently, it was her last trip by that name http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/descriptions/ShipsE.html . . . that also gives this route . . . and started her last Liverpool - Queenstown - Halifax - Boston - New York sailing on 8/10/1870. (date format is ddmmyyyy) I DO see an October 1870 Boston arrival (no day shown) but I see no New York arrival for that trip. >Does anyone know if the route was Liverpool/Queenstown - Halifax - New York - >Philadelpha. Any ideas on how long it took from Hallifax to New York? Given the route above, I checked the October 1870 Boston arrival and they weren't aboard. Halifax did not begin to archive passenger lists before 1881, but regardless, it would be difficult to continue to Duluth from Halifax in 1870. The railway wasn't connected through via Quebec/Montreal until 1876. If I were you, I would definitely consider a Quebec arrival because of their destination. Quebec was a very common route to the US midwest during this period. I show David Lyon as the Allan Line agent in Gothenburg 1868-1871, so having Frederick Nelson shown as Agent does pose a problem . . still, my "Agent" list is far from complete. Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4526 PRUSSIAN Liverpool, England 1870-10-06 / Londonderry, Ireland 1870-10-07 Quebec, Que. 1870-10-17 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (U): National Emigration League (4) List Number: 120; Captain J.E. Dutton C-4526 ST. DAVID Glasgow, Scotland 1870-10-04 Quebec, Que. 1870-10-18 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 121; Captain Joseph Ritchie; Another date appears on manifest as: "6 Oct. 1870" C-4526 NESTORIAN Liverpool, England 1870-10-13 / Londonderry, Ireland 1870-10-14 Quebec, Que. 1870-10-25 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (J): Mount St. Bernard Reformatory, Leicestershire (3) List Number: 123; Captain A.D. Aird C-4526 ST. ANDREW Glasgow, Scotland 1870-10-11 Quebec, Que. 1870-10-26 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) List Number: 124; Captain Hugh Wylie Make sure you check the Glasgow lists too, as Swedes often used that port, arriving first at the port of Leith, although you do say that Orlando was destined to Hull, so Liverpool would make more sense. In the Illustrated London News article, it says the crossing time was about forty hours (this would be about the same from Gothenburg or Christiania) which fits with what I advise, that the trip from either of those cities to Hull was about 3 days. The trip by rail from Hull only took about 7 hours, so adding it all up, the PRUSSIAN from Liverpool on October 6th is a definite _maybe_ :-} The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889445 ~ 1870 ~ port of Quebec Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I need someone to "check" my logic. According to the passenger list in the archives of the Police Chamber of Goteborg, Vol EIX:4:299:1654, Ingar Petersdotter, and her daughter Johanna Johansdotter left Sweden on Sept 30, 1870 on the ship Orlando (Orlando 1, Wilson Line) for Hull, England, her destination was Duluth, Minnesota. The emigrant agent was Frederick Nelson. In checking information at Sweggate.com he represented the Inman line. Would it be safe to assume that she sailed to the US on an Inman ship since her agent represented that line? The Inman ship sailing from Liverpool closest to the date of Ingar's leaving Goteborg is the Etna, which sailed Oct 10, 1870 from Liverpool, arrived at Halifax, Oct 21, 1870. It says it also went to New York and Philadelphia. The chart on theshipslist.com shows the Etna leaving New York, Nov 4 and arriving in "Queenstown" November 16. Does anyone know if the route was Liverpool/Queenstown - Halifax - New York - Philadelpha. Any ideas on how long it took from Hallifax to New York? Thanks for your time and assistance Joy Kersteter Vancouver, WA

My German grandfather came to the US in 1914. He said he slipped over the border from Canada. He had been living in Falmouth, England with his English wife and 3 children. The British were interning German nationals during World War One. The war started in August 1914. I don't how long before they started arresting German nationals. My grandmother came from Liverpool, and when she and the kids came over, they sailed out of Liverpool. His name was Peter Kloman. As a professional waiter, could he have been hired by one of the liners? When he picked up his family at Ellis Island in 1916, he gave a residence address in New York City. How do I find the ship he came over on in 1914? And how to access the manifest? Thank you for your help. Liz ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

My German grandfather came to the US in 1914. He said he slipped over the border from Canada. He had been living in Falmouth, England with his English wife and 3 children. The British were interning German nationals during World War One. The war started in August 1914. I don't how long before they started arresting German nationals. My grandmother came from Liverpool, and when she and the kids came over, they sailed out of Liverpool. When he picked up his family at Ellis Island in 1916, he gave a residence address in New York City. How do I find the ship he came over on in 1914? And how to access the manifest? Thank you for your help. ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

Dan, From ads in the New York Times: 1890 - Norddeutscher Lloyd was using the pier at the foot of 2d-st, Hoboken; Anchor Line pier 41 N.R.; Cunard pier 40 N.R.; White Star from White Star dock foot of West 10th St.; Guion pier 38 N.R. foot of King St; Inman and Royal Mail Pier 43 adjoining Christopher St.; Pacific Mail from Pier foot of Canal St. N.R.; State Line pier at foot of Columbia Stores, Brooklyn; Hamburg-American from Hamburg Docks, Hoboken; 1910 - Red Star Line Pier 14 N.R. The White Star Line was using pier 48 and 49 N.R. that same year while Cunard was using Pier 51-52-56 North River. American Line was at Pier 15 N.R.; Atlantic Transport Line Pier 39 N.R. 1899 - Red Star pier 59 N.R.; White Star pier 60 and 61 N.R.; American pier 62 N.R.; Atlantic Transport pier 58 N.R.; Cunard foot of West 14th St. N.R.; United Fruit Co. pier 16 E.R. off Fulton St.; French Line pier 57 N.R. foot of West 14th St 1914 - White Star pier 59 and 60 N.R. 19th & 20th Sts.; Red Star Pier 61 N.R., 21st St.; French Line, pier 57 N.R., West 15th St.; Cunard piers foot of 14th St. N.R.; American pier 62 N.R., 23rd St; Atlantic Transport pier 58 N.R. 16th St.; 1920 - Ward Line used Pier 17, Brooklyn; Cunard was in a dispute about the pier it used and the pier at West Forty-sixth street (which they were using) was given to the Orient Line and a new one erected at West Forty-eight St. (rental on the pier was $360,000 per year); Can find no mention of the pier for Lamport and Holt and tried many years. Regards.. Marj At 12:43 PM 7/18/2006, Rootsberggreen@aol.com wrote: >Could someone please tell me where I might look to find out what New York >City pier numbers were used by the passenger and shipping lines? > >I am especially interested in: > >Lompart & Holt (L&H) from 1890 until 1920, and, > >Red Star Line from 1910 until 1960, and, > >White Star Line in 1914. > >Thank you, > >Dan in Pennsylvania, USA > > >==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== >TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database >http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date >TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Could someone please tell me where I might look to find out what New York City pier numbers were used by the passenger and shipping lines? I am especially interested in: Lompart & Holt (L&H) from 1890 until 1920, and, Red Star Line from 1910 until 1960, and, White Star Line in 1914. Thank you, Dan in Pennsylvania, USA

Hi Marcella, At 09:33 PM 2006-07-17 -0500, Marcella wrote: >Surname: Fostij / Fosty / Fostey >First name: Jurko, Maria, >Children: Michael, Wasylyna, Antonia, Wasyl, Maria, Jurko > >Records show they arrived at Halifax May 29, 1897 however when I checked >the manifests at the archives today I could not locate the >S.S. Parisian arriving at Halifax on this date or near this date. >Does anyone have answers? The Parisian had two Halifax arrivals in 1897, on March 29th and November 27th. The May arrivals was on May 10th, into Quebec. I wonder whether your record should read March, rather than May ? I see 17 May arrivals for Parisian 1881-1898, but all into Quebec, not Halifax, with only one in the twenties, May 28th in 1882. March 29th 1897 is looking like a better prospect. From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4517 PARISIAN Liverpool, England 1897-03-18 / Londonderry, Ireland 1897-03-19 Halifax, N.S. 1897-03-29 (A) Allan Line Steamship Co., Glasgow (J): Miss Macpherson's children to Stratford (43) Mr. Merry in charge List Number: 46; Captain Reginald Barrett The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889437 ~ 1897 ~ port of Halifax Good Luck Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Surname: Fostij / Fosty / Fostey First name: Jurko, Maria, Children: Michael, Wasylyna, Antonia, Wasyl, Maria, Jurko Records show they arrived at Halifax May 29, 1897 however when I checked the manifests at the archives today I could not locate the S.S. Parisian arriving at Halifax on this date or near this date. Does anyone have answers?