----- Original Message ----- From: "walterfcarr" <walterfcarr@verizon.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:19 AM Subject: [TSL] James Thomas Gibbons, passenger on Peruvian arriving in Boston on October 8th from Londonderry to Boston, Ms. arrnving October 19, 1897 > > I cannot retrieve any passenger list for this ship other than one that > arrived in 1855. Can you tell me where I cannot locate a free web > site to obtain this information? > > Sincere thanks for any information you can send my way. > > Maureen P. Carr > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

MY GREAT GRANDMA LAURA GOULDSTONE EMIGRATED TO QUEBEC MONTREAL IN 1907 WITH 5 OF HER CHILDREN. WILLIAM---JESSIE--ROSE---DAISY AND BEATRICE I HAVE A FEELING THAT SHE WOULD HAVE SAILED FROM LIVERPOOL LANCS. AND THAT SHE MAY HAVE SAILED ON THE EMPRESS OF BRITAIN OR THE EMPRESS OF IRELAND BUT HAVE NO PROOF OF THIS. COULD YOU PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS TO WHAT SHIP SHE MAY HAVE SAILED ON OR HAVE YOU ANY RECORDS OF THIS? I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ANY HELP YOU COULD GIVE ME MRS.) STEPHANIE MANNION

Amy, There is an excellent photo of the MATA HARI in the book "P & O, A Fleet History" by S. Rabson & K. O'Donoghue, ISBN 0-905617-45-2 regards Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: <amy.howe@zoom.co.uk> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: [TSL] Mata Hari > Hello > I am trying to find a picture of the Mata Hari 266 which was captured > during > WW2 in Singapore, it is to go on the front of an order of service for the > funeral of one of its crew. I cannot find a picture anywhere and wondered > if > you could help me. > > Thank you > > Amy > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >

Amy, I'll send you a profiled illustration of the Mata Hari. The 266 is just her index number in Duncan Haws book Merchant Fleets in Profile. Thanks to Bernard for his additional information - I'll copy it to him as well Regards Don www.shiphistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <amy.howe@zoom.co.uk> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: [TSL] Mata Hari > Hello > I am trying to find a picture of the Mata Hari 266 which was captured > during > WW2 in Singapore, it is to go on the front of an order of service for the > funeral of one of its crew. I cannot find a picture anywhere and wondered > if > you could help me. > > Thank you > > Amy > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >

At 08:55 PM 2006-07-22 -0400, Pgfollmer@aol.com wrote: >I sure am hoping that someone can help me sort things out here. I am reading >off of the Declaration of Intent for my great uncle. >Jakob Zigmontovis/Zygmontovicz came to the USA on the ship Snal Donffer >arriving in New York on the 15th of July 1901. >He left Bremen, Germany on the 9th of July. >I cannot find the ship or any trace of him coming here. I do know he settled >in Port Griffith, Pa. Someone told me that the ships name meant slow boat. >Help! What do I do next, any suggestions? I would appreciate all info. and >thank you so much in advance. Peggy in Penna. Hi Peggy, I'm not sure about the "Snal" but I bet the "Donffer" refers to Dampfschiff ?? That is simply German for Steamship. I wish you had included his age, because I think I found him on Ellis Island . . . . First Name: Jakob Last Name: Zyamerntowicz Ethnicity: Austrian Last Place of Residence: Sreps (<-- not sure if that is correctly transcribed either) Date of Arrival: Jul 24, 1901 Age at Arrival: 14y Gender: M Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse Port of Departure: Bremen Manifest Line Number: 0030 Looking at the scanned manifest, the name is really written Zygmuntowicz so it had been mistranscribed. Jakob was listed as a Slovak from Hungary, destined to Snow Shoe (Pennsylvania ?) to his sister. The North German Lloyd ship Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, departed from Bremen July 16th 1901. The information found on naturalization papers for those who emigrated to the US prior to 1906 can often be in error (these things were completed for memory) because at that time it wasn't neccessary to prove the details in order to naturalize. If that isn't him, then go here to Steve Morse's one-step pages for Ellis Island and experiment a little. http://www.stevemorse.org/ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Amy, I can't help you with a photo, but I have quite a bit about her departure from Singapore and her capture as my aunt [Pamela de Neumann] was one of the nurses on board. The following is part of the text that I have that was partially written by my aunt: "When the war started with the Japanese we were evacuated to Singapore. I went with my mother, and my father followed later. We continued nursing at the First Aid posts at Singapore. My mother was a trained nurse too, and staff were needed desperately at the St Andrews Hospital at Singapore. There we nursed wounded members of the armed forces as they came to the hospital from the north of Malaya. We worked during the fall of Singapore right until the day before the fall, which was on the 15th February 1942. The police and army came and said that we had to leave quickly the best way we could. This turned out to be by the steamship MATA HARI, which left from the jetty at Singapore. Only my mother and I left on this ship as my father was a local volunteer, being too old for the Army and Fighting Services. We left Singapore at night and a Japanese warship stopped and captured us within a short time of leaving. Under threat of the warship's trained, loaded and readied guns, and dazzled by a searchlight, our Captain, Captain Carson, flew a white flag and indicated there were women and children aboard. The Japanese then took us prisoners-of-war and sent us to the Island of Banka, Muntok then to Palembang in Sumatra; the military were sent to Burma. [The MATA HARI, British, 1020 gross tons, was a P&O ship on full charter to the Admiralty. Many of her officers were British India Steam Navigation Company personnel as follows: Temp. Lieut A.C. Cars(t)on, RNR - Commander, Temp. Sub Lieut. A.H. Hogge, RNR - Chief Officer, Temp. Lieut. (E) F.J. Lumley, RNR - Chief Engineer, Temp. Sub Lieut. (E) H.M. MacGregor, RNR - Second Engineer, Temp. Sub Lieut. (E) T.R. Gordon, RNR - Third Engineer, Temp. Actg. Sub Lieut. (E) W. McCrorie, RNR - Fourth Engineer. She sailed from Singapore on 12 February 1942 carrying refugees, was captured by the Japanese on 15 February 1942 in position 135 Muntok 15 miles. She was taken to Singapore. Prize proceedings withdrawn and vessel released by Sasebo Prize Court 27 December 1943. Renamed NITIRIN MARU. Sunk by aircraft 2 March 1945.]" That covers the capture of my aunt, and I can send you more on the camps and conditions the nurses endured if you wish. I hope this is of some interest and would be interested to have a copy should you acquire a photograph. Bernard de Neumann > -----Original Message----- > From: amy.howe@zoom.co.uk [mailto:amy.howe@zoom.co.uk] > Sent: 22 July 2006 19:18 > To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TSL] Mata Hari > > Hello > I am trying to find a picture of the Mata Hari 266 which was captured > during > WW2 in Singapore, it is to go on the front of an order of service for the > funeral of one of its crew. I cannot find a picture anywhere and wondered > if > you could help me. > > Thank you > > Amy > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Greetings! I emailed you a while back about finding my ancestors..William and Nancy McMillan McCaskill, who came to America between February 1812 and June 1813 from Scotland. I was told that they came in through the Port of New York, but they lived for a time in Wilmington, N. Carolina before moving inland, so that is a possible Port of entry, too. I appreciated your reply and now I wonder if you can help me again? I am wondering if you can give me some sites I might search for information during that period from say 1785 through 1813? I was told there is a possibility that they may have come over on one of two ships...the "Chalmette" or the "Scotia". I have not been able to find dates they sailed or passenger lists. Any places I could search during that time period would help!!! Thanks for any assistance you can give me!!! Sincerely, Bill McCaskill...rascal mccaskill@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Is there a way to find a death-at-sea record for the ship British King (Liverpool>Philadelphia), arriv. Philadelphia Mar 6 1888? Family tradition says my great-aunt died and was buried at sea during the family's trip from England to USA. Her name was Eliza Ann YEARSLEY, and would have been abt. 16 yo. (born Jan 1872) I have found the family in a Passenger List, but there is no indication of her death. There is also a "Jno, age 18" that doesn't match, but could be a nephew, etc. The list shows Hanna as a "wife", when she was actually a "widow". (For US Commissioners of Immigration) Port of Philadelphia Passenger list of Steamship British King from Liverpool Arrived March 6th 1888. Hanna YEARSLEY; 50; FM; England; England; wife; no (never been to US); no (..not US citizen) Joseph " ; 19; M; " ; " ; Labourer; "; " Jno " : 18; "; " " " " Eliza Ann " ; 16; FM; " " Spinster; " " James " ; 11; M " " Child; " " Hanna(h) is my greatgrandmother and James my grandfather. There was also a daughter, Ciclia, abt. 18, that I don't find on this list, but did come to US. They came from Chesterton, Stafford, England. They settled in Illinois. Thank you for your help, Susan Robison srobison22@hotmail.com

In a message dated 7/22/2006 7:56:20 PM Central Standard Time, Pgfollmer@aol.com writes: arriving in New York on the 15th of July 1901. He left Bremen, Germany on the 9th of July. Was it possible for a ship to make the trip in six days? By 1901 ships were faster than 1888 when my grandfather ship Hermann took over 14 days. But six days? Cliff Bischoff

I sure am hoping that someone can help me sort things out here. I am reading off of the Declaration of Intent for my great uncle. Jakob Zigmontovis/Zygmontovicz came to the USA on the ship Snal Donffer arriving in New York on the 15th of July 1901. He left Bremen, Germany on the 9th of July. I cannot find the ship or any trace of him coming here. I do know he settled in Port Griffith, Pa. Someone told me that the ships name meant slow boat. Help! What do I do next, any suggestions? I would appreciate all info. and thank you so much in advance. Peggy in Penna.

You are a very efficient lady! Yes, The entry in 1916 for Elizabeth Lilian & kids is correct, as are the entries in the 1920 and 1930 census. The last child, Alan, was my father. The family name Klomann, dropped the final n. "It is interesting to note that in 1930 Elizabeth is now Lillian and she and Peter and Leslie and Paul are being shown shown as being born in New Jersey, the same as Allan. I wonder who gave the information?" I think that G'dad Peter gave the information. As an illegal alien, or as someone who didn't apply for naturalization, he was concerned about being grabbed up by offcialdom and being deported. I believe he left Germany to avoid military service, and left England to avoid being interned. Which is why he would claim that the kids were all born in New Jersey. Who would know otherwise? More significant to me - I hadn't noticed in the census - is that Elizabeth is now Lilian. I have been dithering as to whether there were 12 or 13 kids in her family - and this is another clue that there were 12 - Elizabeth & Lilian was one person, not two. I went to the websites you suggested. There is a lot of information. I've narrowed the timeframe down to August thru Oct. 1914, into Eastern Canada - Quebec most likely. I do wish there were a way to get or develop a list of the ships arriving in Quebec during my designated time frame. In addition to the various mispellings of Kloman, he could have travelled under one of the names in the family tree. Thank you for the suggestion about details. Altho I often feel that my queries include too many details, go on too long, and finally obscure the main questions. Thank you again - Liz -- Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Liz, I found your earlier email. Did the family arrive on the CALIFORNIA on April 6th 1916? At 04:45 PM 2006-07-21 -0300, ekloman1@juno.com wrote: >My German grandfather married a Liverpool woman in 1909 and they had 3 >children, all born in England. When World War One started, the English >began interning German nationals. My grandfather told my dad that he >'slipped over the border from Canada'. And on the 1930 census, he does >cite 1914 as the year of entry. They were living in Falmouth from 1912 or >so. But grandmother had a large family in Liverpool and Liverpool is the >residence she gave on the manifest when she & the kids came over, arriving >at Ellis Island in 1916.. >So he would have come in on a ship out of Falmouth or Liverpool, to a >Canadian port before it iced up - August to what, October, 1914? Where >would the manifest be? How could I access it? Thank you for your help. >Liz If so, I see them listed as Elizabeth Klomer (rather than Kloman), 28 ; Grace Lillian 5, Peter Leslie, 3 and Paul, 2. They were leaving mother / grandmother Alice Hughes . . Kirkdale, Liverpool, going to husband Peter Klomer, 322 East 51st St. NY. Is that the right family ? I guess this is the right family as I see them in the 1920 census, Essex, NJ and it also says 1914 for Peter and 1916 for Elizabeth and the children. Peter Leslie is called Leslie Peter and they have another som Alan, 2 years and 10 months old. Peter was born in Baden. On one page the family name is Kloman (transcribed as Koman / Klaman) and on the second page as either Klamman or Klauman. It is interesting to note that in 1930 Elizabeth is now Lillian and she and Peter and Leslie and Paul are being shown shown as being born in New Jersey, the same as Allan. I wonder who gave the information? As an aside . . . when you send a query, it is always a good idea to include as many details about the family as you can. You never know what records other listers may have access to. :-} There were over 450 ships from England carrying passengers to Canada in 1914, then if you add in those arriving via US ports, another 200+. There was Halifax and St. John as well as Quebec. Of those to Quebec, there were so very many for the period you want to know about. By far your best approach is to keep in mind all the possible spellings, and then search the index for the passenger manifests for the CAN-US border records, the St. Albans lists. US via Canada http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans M-1461 Soundex Index to Canadian Border Entries through the St. Albans, VT, District After you locate the NARA microfilm number, make sure you check the link called "Immigration Microfilm CATalog Converter" to check the LDS film numbers for the same microfilm. The card index will tell you lots of details should you find Peter. If you find him (because it is really quite possible he travelled under an alias) you will be pointed toward the arrival manifest NARA M-1464, which will tell you the ship and port of arrival, so then you can also go after the Canadian record for the same arrival. Those are not indexed, so this why it is great if you can find him on the St. Albans record. If he did "work passage" as a waiter, you might have to settle for ship arrival information, as there will be no Canadian record for service crew. Good luck, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

I cannot retrieve any passenger list for this ship other than one that arrived in 1855. Can you tell me where I cannot locate a free web site to obtain this information? Sincere thanks for any information you can send my way. Maureen P. Carr

Looking for Toppsy Louise Captain Thomas William Smith Captain smith's home 15 Elm Grove Brighton

Hello I am trying to find a picture of the Mata Hari 266 which was captured during WW2 in Singapore, it is to go on the front of an order of service for the funeral of one of its crew. I cannot find a picture anywhere and wondered if you could help me. Thank you Amy

Joe, that was outstanding. Thank you, Art in New Hampshire Joe wrote: > Hello All, > I have recently written an article about New York's immigration > centers - Ellis Island, Castle Garden and the Barge Office - and > posted it to my blog... > > http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/ellis-island-castle-garden-which-one.html > > > If that URL is divided you can start here: > http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/ > > The article discusses which immigration center was used at what time. > Included is some information about the Ellis Island fire of 1897. > > Happy searching. > > Regards, > Joe > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >

Or, the modern one: http://www.ship-photo.de/modules/myalbum/photos/5088.jpg and the warship: http://navalhistory.flixco.info/H/95484/8330/a0.htm Rgds Michael

Hi Eduardo Are you looking for this one: http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/MSC_Lauro/Napoli01-da.jpg Regards Michael

Hello All, I have recently written an article about New York's immigration centers - Ellis Island, Castle Garden and the Barge Office - and posted it to my blog... http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/ellis-island-castle-garden-which-one.html If that URL is divided you can start here: http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/ The article discusses which immigration center was used at what time. Included is some information about the Ellis Island fire of 1897. Happy searching. Regards, Joe

I had found some information about My great Great Great Grandfather,He was suppose to left Germany to England on November 30 1852, and Arrived at Portland Victoria Australia on april 9 1853, but how do I find how He got to The United States in 1858, there are aaat least 5 Years that I can't seem to find Him anywhere, His name was August Bollhoefer,I would Appreciate any Information,Thanks beckysmusic@sbcglobal.net

Does anyone have info on the Herrshoff family? They were ship builders from the Boston, Mass. area. Steve Pickholtz New Jersey