Hello, I am researching William James Bevan who arrived in the US aged 4 years in abt 1796. We think he arrived in a South Carolina Port. I have surfed through Passenger lists that I can find online, but there seems to be a gap between the late 1790's and 1820. I could not find any lists for that period. Are there lists available? How common was it for emigrants form Wales to arrive in the Carolinas? What attracted them to that part of the US and not to ports further North such as NY,Boston etc.? Many thanks for all help given, Angharad Anglesey, North Wales

My gggrandparents left Ireland abt. 1847 aboard the Barque BEE. He his wife Catherine and their children, Patrick, Cornelius, Jeremiah, John, Stephen and two daughters whose names are unknown. The girls reportedly died at sea but were buried some where in Quebec City. I am trying to locate info about the BEE. It seems that it made only one crossing to North America, its other voyages were to Australia. I am also looking for the ships manifest to find the girl(s) names. It would be great to find the manifest from the port of disembarkation and the port of arrival. Ralph Koehler rkoehler10@yahoo.com Regards, Ralph R.E. Koehler Livonia, MI USA

At 08:55 AM 2006-07-24 -0400, Art Faint wrote: >Sue, this information is very helpful for me. Many thanks, Art Faint from >New Hampshire Art, I have just recently put up another webpage for a little earlier period which you might also find interesting Hints to Emigrants to the North American Provinces ca. 1847-1849 Cautions to emigrants, plus advice on tools, length of passage, inward travel, colonial tax and routes and rates via the ports of Quebec and New York. http://www.theshipslist.com/Forms/hints.htm Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I am trying to find out when Alexander Morton came to Canada. He was born in 1802 in Scotland and between 1827-1829 traveled to Quebec, Canada. He was married there in Nov 1829. Is there SKS that could help me find my gg grandfather? Thank you for any help you can give to me. Pat from Kansas

Sue, this information is very helpful for me. Many thanks, Art Faint from New Hampshire Sue Swiggum wrote: > There has been a little discussion about routes and the method of > conveyance on the St. Lawrence route to the US, during the 1850s, so I > thought I would re-post this information circular of 1853. > > *note: Stg. = Sterling Cy. = Currency > > >From an information circular for Emigrants, prepared by A.C. Buchanan, > Chief Agent, Emigration Department, dated in Quebec; July 27,1853. > > MONTREAL TO THE GREAT LAKES > > >From Quebec to Montreal 180 miles, by Steamers, every day at 5 o'clock; > through in 14 hours > By the Royal Mail Packets: 2s.0d.sterling 2s.6d.currency > By Tait's Line: 1s.6d. " 1s.10d " > --------------------------- > >From Montreal to Toronto, Hamilton, Buffalo, and other Ports on > Lakes Erie and Michigan. > > Daily by the Royal mail Line at 9 o'clock am > Miles Stg. Cy. > >From Montreal to Cornwall 78 4s. 5s.0d. > " Williamsburg 104 6s. 7s.6d. > " Matilda 112 6s. 7s.6d. > " Prescott 127 6s. 7s.6d. > " Brockville 139 6s. 7s.6d. > " Kingston 189 8s. 10s.0d. > " Cobourg 292 12s. 15s.0d > " Port Hope 298 12s. 15s.0d > " Bond Head 313 12s. 15s.0d > " Darlington 317 12s. 15s.0d > " Whitby 337 12s. 15s.0d > " Toronto 367 12s. 15s.0d > " Hamilton 410 12s. 15s.0d > " Niagara & > Lewiston 457 14s. 17s.6d. > " Buffalo by 489 18s. 22s.6d. > Railroad > Passengers by this line trans-ship at Prescott to the Lake Steamers. > --------------------------- > Daily by the American Line, at 1 o'clock pm > Miles > Stg. Cy. > >From Montreal to Ogdensburg 138 6s. 7s.6d. > " Cape Vincent 190 8s. 10s.0d. > " Sacket's Harbour 242 12s. 15s.0d. > " Oswego 286 12s. > 15s.0d. > " Rochester 349 16s. > 20s.0d. > " Lewiston 436 14s. > 17s.6d. > " Buffalo 467 18s. > 22s.6d. > > Passengers by this line tranship at Ogdensburg to the Lake Steamers for > Oswego and Buffalo, and at Cape Vincent to the Steamer for Toronto and > Hamilton. > The Passengers for both Lines (Royal Mail and American) embark at the > Canal > Basin, Montreal, and arrive at Hamilton and Buffalo in 48 hours. > Passage from Quebec to Hamilton 17s.6d. > " " Buffalo 25s.0d. > --------------------------- > > >From Buffalo to Ports on Lakes Erie, Michigan etc., every evening at 9 > o'clock by the Michigan Central Railroad Line. > Miles > Stg. Cy. > >From Buffalo to Cleveland, on Lake Erie 194 4s. 5s.0d. > by Steamer > " Sandusky, on Lake Erie 254 4s. > 5s.0d. > by Steamer > " Detroit direct on Lake 260 > 8s. 10s.0d. > Erie by Steamer > " Chicago by Railroad 530 > 12s. 15s.0d. > " Chicago by Steamer via 1,075 12s. > 15s.0d. > Lakes Huron & Michigan > > Passage from Quebec to Chicago 32s. sterling or $8.00. Passengers for > Cincinnati or St.Louis land at Sandusky, and proceed by Railroad. > Steamers leave Kingston daily for the Bay of Quinte and the River Trent, > calling at Picton, Adolphustown, Belleville, and other places in the Bay. > >From Toronto, Steamers leave daily for Port Dalhousie, the entrance > of the > Welland Canal, and for Hamilton, calling at Port Credit 15 miles; > Oakville > 25 miles; Wellington Square 37 miles;and Hamilton 43 miles. > Steamers leave daily for Niagara, Queenston, and Lewiston: passage 3s.9d. > At Lewiston the Rail cars leave twice a day for Buffalo: fare 5s. > Freight Steamers carry Passengers from Montreal to Kingston for 5s. > each adult. > To Toronto and Hamilton, 8s. stg. or 10s. cy. > _____________________________________________ > > Sue

Hi William, At 09:26 PM 2006-07-23 -0700, bill treumann wrote: >My g-grandfather Hans Olsen, gave "Port of Milwaukee," >June 1868, as his port of entry. I wonder how many >ships would fit? Other information has him on the >Wilson Line ship ARGO but that likely is a >transatlantic ship. > He came from Norway. How was it possible for an >inland port to be his port of entry? Possibly >disembarking in Canada, travelling by rail to a Great >Lakes port, and then by ship to Milwaukee? > My grandmother also gave Milwaukee as her port of >entry in 1870 but no month was cited. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > William Treumann, Fargo ND USA You are 100% spot on. Hans would have arrived at the port of Quebec, then taken the train to? maybe Buffalo to change to the Michigan Central Railroad Line, or by Lake Steamer from Buffalo through Lake Erie to Lake Huron to Lake Michigan. By 1868 there were several routes and methods of travel they could take, but I think if he had entered via Port Huron for example, he would have named that port. I will re-post an information circular for 1853 <<Routes & Rates Quebec-US 1853>> which varies from 1868 information, as by then, rail was available all the way from Quebec City. Norwegians however often preferred River / Lake Steamer travel to train travel, in the early days. The Wilson Line ARGO was a "feeder-ship" and in 1868 was sailing from Christiania (Oslo) and Wilson Line ships departed that port every Friday at 5pm, to Hull, England. From Hull, by rail to Liverpool to embark on a transatlantic ship. The whole trip from Christiania to Quebec via England, would be about two weeks +/-. For a June arrival at Milwaukee, the Christiania sailing dates were . . May 22nd, June 5th . . . . The Norwegian Digitalarkivet records for 1868 aren't complete, but I found these two Hans Olsen registered to leave Christiania on the ARGO . . . . which one is him? The one from Jevnager travelling to Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin? If so, was he travelling with a brother ? 1868 Juni 04 Hans Olsen Flatla m 1850 Jevnager Prairie La Chion Norge Argo 1868 Juni 04 Birger Olsen Flatla m 1836 Jevnager Prairie La Chion Norge Argo 1868 Juni 11 Hans Olsen Holen m 1844 Vaage Wenona Norge Argo (this one will be Winona, Minnesota) If the June 4th Hans is yours, then he would have left Norway on June 5th, to Hull (about 3 days) so the most likely ship(s) of arrival at Quebec would be . . . From the CD-ROM --"TheShipsList Passenger Ship Arrivals Canadian Ports 1865-1899"-- http://theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm Reel Number Ship Name Departure Information Arrival Information Shipping Line Special Group(s) Remarks C-4523 MORAVIAN Liverpool, England 1868-06-11 Quebec, Que. 1868-06-17 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (J): Wellington Farm School (2) List Number: 37; check all MORAVIAN 1868 arrivals C-4523 PERUVIAN Liverpool, England 1868-06-11 Quebec, Que. 1868-06-23 (MTL) Montreal Ocean Steamship Company (Allan Line) (M): Soldiers (102) no list List Number: 47; Captain W. Ballantine The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the Library & Archives of Canada [LAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the details for this procedure at this LAC Genealogy Research URL http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are not indexed. The LDS do also have copies of this microfilm, their number LDS number 0889443 ~ 1868 ~ port of Quebec When you get the microfilm, you'll notice many sailing ships sailing direct from Norway interspersed among the steamship arrivals. They are filmed in order of arrival and each list has a big "grease pencil?" number written on the front of the manifest as well as alternate manifest pages. So look for the "List Numbers" included above. Post again with more details for your grandmother, such as full name, age, where she was from in Norway and where she was destined and I'll try to come up with some possibilities for her. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

There has been a little discussion about routes and the method of conveyance on the St. Lawrence route to the US, during the 1850s, so I thought I would re-post this information circular of 1853. *note: Stg. = Sterling Cy. = Currency >From an information circular for Emigrants, prepared by A.C. Buchanan, Chief Agent, Emigration Department, dated in Quebec; July 27,1853. MONTREAL TO THE GREAT LAKES >From Quebec to Montreal 180 miles, by Steamers, every day at 5 o'clock; through in 14 hours By the Royal Mail Packets: 2s.0d.sterling 2s.6d.currency By Tait's Line: 1s.6d. " 1s.10d " --------------------------- >From Montreal to Toronto, Hamilton, Buffalo, and other Ports on Lakes Erie and Michigan. Daily by the Royal mail Line at 9 o'clock am Miles Stg. Cy. >From Montreal to Cornwall 78 4s. 5s.0d. " Williamsburg 104 6s. 7s.6d. " Matilda 112 6s. 7s.6d. " Prescott 127 6s. 7s.6d. " Brockville 139 6s. 7s.6d. " Kingston 189 8s. 10s.0d. " Cobourg 292 12s. 15s.0d " Port Hope 298 12s. 15s.0d " Bond Head 313 12s. 15s.0d " Darlington 317 12s. 15s.0d " Whitby 337 12s. 15s.0d " Toronto 367 12s. 15s.0d " Hamilton 410 12s. 15s.0d " Niagara & Lewiston 457 14s. 17s.6d. " Buffalo by 489 18s. 22s.6d. Railroad Passengers by this line trans-ship at Prescott to the Lake Steamers. --------------------------- Daily by the American Line, at 1 o'clock pm Miles Stg. Cy. >From Montreal to Ogdensburg 138 6s. 7s.6d. " Cape Vincent 190 8s. 10s.0d. " Sacket's Harbour 242 12s. 15s.0d. " Oswego 286 12s. 15s.0d. " Rochester 349 16s. 20s.0d. " Lewiston 436 14s. 17s.6d. " Buffalo 467 18s. 22s.6d. Passengers by this line tranship at Ogdensburg to the Lake Steamers for Oswego and Buffalo, and at Cape Vincent to the Steamer for Toronto and Hamilton. The Passengers for both Lines (Royal Mail and American) embark at the Canal Basin, Montreal, and arrive at Hamilton and Buffalo in 48 hours. Passage from Quebec to Hamilton 17s.6d. " " Buffalo 25s.0d. --------------------------- >From Buffalo to Ports on Lakes Erie, Michigan etc., every evening at 9 o'clock by the Michigan Central Railroad Line. Miles Stg. Cy. >From Buffalo to Cleveland, on Lake Erie 194 4s. 5s.0d. by Steamer " Sandusky, on Lake Erie 254 4s. 5s.0d. by Steamer " Detroit direct on Lake 260 8s. 10s.0d. Erie by Steamer " Chicago by Railroad 530 12s. 15s.0d. " Chicago by Steamer via 1,075 12s. 15s.0d. Lakes Huron & Michigan Passage from Quebec to Chicago 32s. sterling or $8.00. Passengers for Cincinnati or St.Louis land at Sandusky, and proceed by Railroad. Steamers leave Kingston daily for the Bay of Quinte and the River Trent, calling at Picton, Adolphustown, Belleville, and other places in the Bay. >From Toronto, Steamers leave daily for Port Dalhousie, the entrance of the Welland Canal, and for Hamilton, calling at Port Credit 15 miles; Oakville 25 miles; Wellington Square 37 miles;and Hamilton 43 miles. Steamers leave daily for Niagara, Queenston, and Lewiston: passage 3s.9d. At Lewiston the Rail cars leave twice a day for Buffalo: fare 5s. Freight Steamers carry Passengers from Montreal to Kingston for 5s. each adult. To Toronto and Hamilton, 8s. stg. or 10s. cy. _____________________________________________ Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

My g-grandfather Hans Olsen, gave "Port of Milwaukee," June 1868, as his port of entry. I wonder how many ships would fit? Other information has him on the Wilson Line ship ARGO but that likely is a transatlantic ship. He came from Norway. How was it possible for an inland port to be his port of entry? Possibly disembarking in Canada, travelling by rail to a Great Lakes port, and then by ship to Milwaukee? My grandmother also gave Milwaukee as her port of entry in 1870 but no month was cited. Any information would be greatly appreciated. William Treumann, Fargo ND USA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "beckysmusic" <beckysmusic@sbcglobal.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: [TSL] Geneaology, name of Ship > I had found some information about My great Great Great Grandfather,He was suppose to left Germany to England on November 30 1852, and Arrived at Portland Victoria Australia on april 9 1853, but how do I find how He got to The United States in 1858, there are aaat least 5 Years that I can't seem to find Him anywhere, His name was August Bollhoefer,I would Appreciate any Information,Thanks beckysmusic@sbcglobal.net > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TO CONTACT > LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "beckysmusic" <beckysmusic@sbcglobal.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: [TSL] Geneaology, name of Ship > I had found some information about My great Great Great Grandfather,He was suppose to left Germany to England on November 30 1852, and Arrived at Portland Victoria Australia on april 9 1853, but how do I find how He got to The United States in 1858, there are aaat least 5 Years that I can't seem to find Him anywhere, His name was August Bollhoefer,I would Appreciate any Information,Thanks beckysmusic@sbcglobal.net > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TO CONTACT > LISTOWNERS: Sue mailto:TheShipsList-admin@lists2.rootsweb.com > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <paperangels@gmail.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:54 AM Subject: [TSL] Ellis Island? Castle Garden? Which One? And When? > Hello All, > I have recently written an article about New York's immigration > centers - Ellis Island, Castle Garden and the Barge Office - and > posted it to my blog... > > http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/ellis-island-castle-garden-which-on e.html > > If that URL is divided you can start here: > http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/ > > The article discusses which immigration center was used at what time. > Included is some information about the Ellis Island fire of 1897. > > Happy searching. > > Regards, > Joe > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <ekloman1@juno.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Liverpool ships to Canada ; Aug to Dec 1914 > You are a very efficient lady! Yes, The entry in 1916 for Elizabeth Lilian & kids is correct, as are the entries in the 1920 and 1930 census. The last child, Alan, was my father. The family name Klomann, dropped the final n. "It is interesting to note that in 1930 Elizabeth is now Lillian and she and > Peter and Leslie and Paul are being shown shown as being born in New > Jersey, the same as Allan. I wonder who gave the information?" > I think that G'dad Peter gave the information. As an illegal alien, or as someone who didn't apply for naturalization, he was concerned about being grabbed up by offcialdom and being deported. I believe he left Germany to avoid military service, and left England to avoid being interned. Which is why he would claim that the kids were all born in New Jersey. Who would know otherwise? More significant to me - I hadn't noticed in the census - is that Elizabeth is now Lilian. I have been dithering as to whether there were 12 or 13 kids in her family - and this is another clue that there were 12 - Elizabeth & Lilian was one person, not two. > I went to the websites you suggested. There is a lot of information. I've narrowed the timeframe down to August thru Oct. 1914, into Eastern Canada - Quebec most likely. I do wish there were a way to get or develop a list of the ships arriving in Quebec during my designated time frame. In addition to the various mispellings of Kloman, he could have travelled under one of the names in the family tree. > Thank you for the suggestion about details. Altho I often feel that my queries include too many details, go on too long, and finally obscure the main questions. > Thank you again - > Liz > > -- Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Liz, > > I found your earlier email. Did the family arrive on the CALIFORNIA on > April 6th 1916? > > At 04:45 PM 2006-07-21 -0300, ekloman1@juno.com wrote: > >My German grandfather married a Liverpool woman in 1909 and they had 3 > >children, all born in England. When World War One started, the English > >began interning German nationals. My grandfather told my dad that he > >'slipped over the border from Canada'. And on the 1930 census, he does > >cite 1914 as the year of entry. They were living in Falmouth from 1912 or > >so. But grandmother had a large family in Liverpool and Liverpool is the > >residence she gave on the manifest when she & the kids came over, arriving > >at Ellis Island in 1916.. > >So he would have come in on a ship out of Falmouth or Liverpool, to a > >Canadian port before it iced up - August to what, October, 1914? Where > >would the manifest be? How could I access it? Thank you for your help. > >Liz > > If so, I see them listed as Elizabeth Klomer (rather than Kloman), 28 ; > Grace Lillian 5, Peter Leslie, 3 and Paul, 2. They were leaving mother / > grandmother Alice Hughes . . Kirkdale, Liverpool, going to husband Peter > Klomer, 322 East 51st St. NY. Is that the right family ? > > I guess this is the right family as I see them in the 1920 census, Essex, > NJ and it also says 1914 for Peter and 1916 for Elizabeth and the > children. Peter Leslie is called Leslie Peter and they have another som > Alan, 2 years and 10 months old. Peter was born in Baden. On one page the > family name is Kloman (transcribed as Koman / Klaman) and on the second > page as either Klamman or Klauman. > It is interesting to note that in 1930 Elizabeth is now Lillian and she and > Peter and Leslie and Paul are being shown shown as being born in New > Jersey, the same as Allan. I wonder who gave the information? > As an aside . . . when you send a query, it is always a good idea to > include as many details about the family as you can. You never know what > records other listers may have access to. :-} > > There were over 450 ships from England carrying passengers to Canada in > 1914, then if you add in those arriving via US ports, another 200+. There > was Halifax and St. John as well as Quebec. Of those to Quebec, there were > so very many for the period you want to know about. > By far your best approach is to keep in mind all the possible spellings, > and then search the index for the passenger manifests for the CAN-US border > records, the St. Albans lists. > > US via Canada > http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans > > M-1461 Soundex Index to Canadian Border Entries through the St. Albans, VT, > District > > After you locate the NARA microfilm number, make sure you check the link > called "Immigration Microfilm CATalog Converter" to check the LDS film > numbers for the same microfilm. > > The card index will tell you lots of details should you find Peter. If you > find him (because it is really quite possible he travelled under an alias) > you will be pointed toward the arrival manifest NARA M-1464, which will > tell you the ship and port of arrival, so then you can also go after the > Canadian record for the same arrival. Those are not indexed, so this why > it is great if you can find him on the St. Albans record. If he did "work > passage" as a waiter, you might have to settle for ship arrival > information, as there will be no Canadian record for service crew. > > Good luck, > > Sue > -- > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! > Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. > Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <amy.howe@zoom.co.uk> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:18 AM Subject: [TSL] Mata Hari > Hello > I am trying to find a picture of the Mata Hari 266 which was captured during > WW2 in Singapore, it is to go on the front of an order of service for the > funeral of one of its crew. I cannot find a picture anywhere and wondered if > you could help me. > > Thank you > > Amy > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Passenger Lists on The Internet > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "susan robison" <srobison22@hotmail.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: [TSL] British King-UK>Phil-1888-deaths > Is there a way to find a death-at-sea record for the ship British King > (Liverpool>Philadelphia), arriv. Philadelphia Mar 6 1888? > > Family tradition says my great-aunt died and was buried at sea during the > family's trip from England to USA. Her name was Eliza Ann YEARSLEY, and > would have been abt. 16 yo. (born Jan 1872) > > I have found the family in a Passenger List, but there is no indication of > her death. There is also a "Jno, age 18" that doesn't match, but could be a > nephew, etc. The list shows Hanna as a "wife", when she was actually a > "widow". > > (For US Commissioners of Immigration) Port of Philadelphia > Passenger list of Steamship British King from Liverpool Arrived March 6th > 1888. > > Hanna YEARSLEY; 50; FM; England; England; wife; no (never been to US); no > (..not US citizen) > Joseph " ; 19; M; " ; " ; Labourer; "; > " > Jno " : 18; "; " " > " " > Eliza Ann " ; 16; FM; " " Spinster; " > " > James " ; 11; M " " Child; > " " > > Hanna(h) is my greatgrandmother and James my grandfather. There was also a > daughter, Ciclia, abt. 18, that I don't find on this list, but did come to > US. They came from Chesterton, Stafford, England. They settled in Illinois. > > Thank you for your help, > Susan Robison > srobison22@hotmail.com > > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > ***** You have entered a Flame Free Zone ***** > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <Pgfollmer@aol.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: [TSL] Snal Donffer 1901 > I sure am hoping that someone can help me sort things out here. I am reading > off of the Declaration of Intent for my great uncle. > Jakob Zigmontovis/Zygmontovicz came to the USA on the ship Snal Donffer > arriving in New York on the 15th of July 1901. > He left Bremen, Germany on the 9th of July. > I cannot find the ship or any trace of him coming here. I do know he settled > in Port Griffith, Pa. Someone told me that the ships name meant slow boat. > Help! What do I do next, any suggestions? I would appreciate all info. and > thank you so much in advance. Peggy in Penna. > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernard de Neumann" <de.Neumann@btinternet.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: [TSL] Mata Hari > Amy, I can't help you with a photo, but I have quite a bit about her > departure from Singapore and her capture as my aunt [Pamela de Neumann] was > one of the nurses on board. The following is part of the text that I have > that was partially written by my aunt: > > "When the war started with the Japanese we were evacuated to Singapore. I > went with my mother, and my father followed later. We continued nursing at > the First Aid posts at Singapore. My mother was a trained nurse too, and > staff were needed desperately at the St Andrews Hospital at Singapore. > There we nursed wounded members of the armed forces as they came to the > hospital from the north of Malaya. We worked during the fall of Singapore > right until the day before the fall, which was on the 15th February 1942. > The police and army came and said that we had to leave quickly the best way > we could. This turned out to be by the steamship MATA HARI, which left from > the jetty at Singapore. Only my mother and I left on this ship as my father > was a local volunteer, being too old for the Army and Fighting Services. > We left Singapore at night and a Japanese warship stopped and captured us > within a short time of leaving. Under threat of the warship's trained, > loaded and readied guns, and dazzled by a searchlight, our Captain, Captain > Carson, flew a white flag and indicated there were women and children > aboard. The Japanese then took us prisoners-of-war and sent us to the > Island of Banka, Muntok then to Palembang in Sumatra; the military were > sent to Burma. [The MATA HARI, British, 1020 gross tons, was a P&O ship on > full charter to the Admiralty. Many of her officers were British India > Steam Navigation Company personnel as follows: Temp. Lieut A.C. Cars(t)on, > RNR - Commander, Temp. Sub Lieut. A.H. Hogge, RNR - Chief Officer, Temp. > Lieut. (E) F.J. Lumley, RNR - Chief Engineer, Temp. Sub Lieut. (E) H.M. > MacGregor, RNR - Second Engineer, Temp. Sub Lieut. (E) T.R. Gordon, RNR - > Third Engineer, Temp. Actg. Sub Lieut. (E) W. McCrorie, RNR - Fourth > Engineer. She sailed from Singapore on 12 February 1942 carrying refugees, > was captured by the Japanese on 15 February 1942 in position 135 Muntok 15 > miles. She was taken to Singapore. Prize proceedings withdrawn and vessel > released by Sasebo Prize Court 27 December 1943. Renamed NITIRIN MARU. > Sunk by aircraft 2 March 1945.]" > > That covers the capture of my aunt, and I can send you more on the camps and > conditions the nurses endured if you wish. > > I hope this is of some interest and would be interested to have a copy > should you acquire a photograph. > > Bernard de Neumann > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: amy.howe@zoom.co.uk [mailto:amy.howe@zoom.co.uk] > > Sent: 22 July 2006 19:18 > > To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [TSL] Mata Hari > > > > Hello > > I am trying to find a picture of the Mata Hari 266 which was captured > > during > > WW2 in Singapore, it is to go on the front of an order of service for the > > funeral of one of its crew. I cannot find a picture anywhere and wondered > > if > > you could help me. > > > > Thank you > > > > Amy > > > > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Passenger Lists on The Internet > > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:TheShipsList-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > Leave Subject Line empty * Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in body of message > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr Bill McCaskill" <rascal_mccaskill@yahoo.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: [TSL] Search Advice Needed > Greetings! > > I emailed you a while back about finding my > ancestors..William and Nancy McMillan McCaskill, who > came to America between February 1812 and June 1813 > from Scotland. I was told that they came in through > the Port of New York, but they lived for a time in > Wilmington, N. Carolina before moving inland, so that > is a possible Port of entry, too. > > I appreciated your reply and now I wonder if you can > help me again? I am wondering if you can give me some > sites I might search for information during that > period from say 1785 through 1813? I was told there is > a possibility that they may have come over on one of > two ships...the "Chalmette" or the "Scotia". I have > not been able to find dates they sailed or passenger > lists. Any places I could search during that time > period would help!!! > > Thanks for any assistance you can give me!!! > > Sincerely, Bill McCaskill...rascal mccaskill@yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <Bishlark@aol.com> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Snal Donffer 1901 > > In a message dated 7/22/2006 7:56:20 PM Central Standard Time, > Pgfollmer@aol.com writes: > > arriving in New York on the 15th of July 1901. > He left Bremen, Germany on the 9th of July. > > > > Was it possible for a ship to make the trip in six days? > > By 1901 ships were faster than 1888 when my grandfather ship Hermann took > over 14 days. > > But six days? > > Cliff Bischoff > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Faint" <ajfaint@earthlink.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:04 AM Subject: Re: [TSL] Ellis Island? Castle Garden? Which One? And When? > Joe, that was outstanding. Thank you, Art in New Hampshire > > Joe wrote: > > > Hello All, > > I have recently written an article about New York's immigration > > centers - Ellis Island, Castle Garden and the Barge Office - and > > posted it to my blog... > > > > http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/ellis-island-castle-garden-which-on e.html > > > > > > If that URL is divided you can start here: > > http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/ > > > > The article discusses which immigration center was used at what time. > > Included is some information about the Ellis Island fire of 1897. > > > > Happy searching. > > > > Regards, > > Joe > > > > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* A PLACE TO START *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Passenger Lists on The Internet > > http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > > > > > > > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > TheShipsList Searchable Archives Database > http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date > TheShipsList RootsWeb Archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Collier" <kathy.collier@proshareclubs.hemscott.net> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:18 AM Subject: [TSL] toppsy louise > > Looking for Toppsy Louise Captain Thomas William Smith Captain smith's > home 15 Elm Grove Brighton > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >