Anne Oline Hallanvald, probably from Skogn. This is her maiden name. Born about 1861. We believe she left between 1875-1885. Would like to confirm her departure from Norway to USA and any stopovers. Sincerely, Mike Peterson

Reguline (Lina) Bjorngaard, probably from Hegra/Stjordal. This is her maiden name. Born about 1860. We believe she left between 1875-1885 and possibly on Star-Line, Tasso. Would like to confirm her departure from Norway to USA and any stopovers. Sincerely, Mike Peterson

Hello! I am trying to confirm that the ship on which I sailed from Southampton to New York, arriving Sept. 13, 1939, was the Westernland (Holland-America Line -- Red Star Line Service). Its route was Antwerp - Southampton - New York, but I boarded, with my parents, Olga and Ludwig Schiffer, in Southampton. Scheduled sailing date was Sept. 3, delayed to the 4th because of the outbreak of the war. Can someone find us on a passenger list? Many thanks. Eva Schiffer

To mark the first anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, here is part of a column about New Orleans from the New York Times, September 14, 1853. The second part of the column (as long again as this) concerned the beauty of the "free women of slight African blood" and the details of taking them as mistresses! While I think of New Orleans as a blend of English and French, I was surprised to read of the Irish and German influences. According to the Cabildo website, New Orleans was the second biggest immigration port in the United States, after New York, before the Civil War. Cabildo Online Project http://lsm.crt.state.la.us/cabildo/cab8.htm I have copied this as accurately as I can but there were some errors in the printed text. New York Times, September 14, 1853, page 2. THE SOUTH Letters on the Production, Industry and Resources of the Slave States. NUMBER THIRTY EIGHT SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT OF THE N. Y. DAILY TIMES First impression of New Orleans...Curious variety of the population.. The free people of slight African blood...Prostitution, &c. I was awakened by the loud ringing of a hand-bell, and turning out of my berth, dressed by dim lamp-light. The waiters were serving coffee and collecting baggage in the cabin; and upon stepping outside, I found that the boat was made fast to a long wharf, or wooden jetty, and the passengers were going ashore. A ticket for New Orleans was handed me as I crossed the gang-plank. There was a rail-track and a train of cars upon the wharf, but no locomotive; and I got my baggage checked and walked toward the shore. It was early day-light, but a fog rested on the waters of Lake Pontchartrain, and only the nearest point of land could be discerned. There were many small buildings erected on piles over the water, bathing-houses, bowling-alleys, and billiard rooms, with other indications of a place of holiday resort, and on reaching the shore, I found a village quietly slumbering. The first house had a garden about it made of complex alleys, and plats, and tables, and arbors, and rustic seats, and cut shrubs, and shells, and statues, and vases; and a lamp was still feebly burning in a large lantern over the entrance gate. I was thinking how like it was to a rural restaurant in France or Germany, when the locomotive backed, screaming hoarsely, down the jetty, and I returned to get my seat. Off we puffed, past the restaurant, through the village; - the name of which I did not inquire, everybody near me seemed so cold and cross, and I have not learned in since - and through the little village whatever it was, of white houses, we rushed, and from among them into the midst of a dense gray cypress swamp. For three or four rods each side of the track, the trees had all been felled and removed, leaving a dreary strip of swamp covered with stumps. This was bounded and intersected by broad ditches or narrow and shallow canals, with a great number of small punts in them, which I supposed were used for shrimp catching. So it continued for two or three miles; then the ground became drier, there was an abrupt termination of the gray barrier of wood, and I looked far over a flat country, skirted still, and finally bounded in the back-ground with the swamp forest. There were scattered irregularly over it a few low houses, one story high, and all with verandahs before them. At length a broad road struck in by the side of the track; houses of the same description became more frequent, fronting upon it. Soon it was a village, smoke ascending from breakfast fires, windows and doors opening, steps swept off, a baker's wagon passing, broad streets little built upon breaking off at right angles, and with, what was strange, tall poles at the corners from the tops of which, connecting them, were ropes with blocks and halyards to swing great square lanterns over the middle of the street. Just as in France, I said to myself; and turning to one of my cold and cross companions, a man wrapped in a loose coat with a cowl over his head, I asked the name of the village for my geography was all at fault. I had expected to be landed at New Orleans by the boat, and had not been informed of the railroad arrangement, and had no idea in what part of Louisiana we might be. "Ner Anglishe" was the gruff reply. There was a sign, "Cafe du Faubourg;" putting my head out and looking forward, I saw that it was indeed a Faubourg, and we were thundering into New Orleans. We reached the terminus, which was surrounded with fiacres in exactly the style of Paris. "To the hotel St. Charles" I said to a driver, confused with the loud French and quiet English of the crowd about me; "Oui, yer 'onor, " was the equally cosmopolitan reply of my evidently Irish young fellow-citizen. He obtained another "fare" and away we rattled, through narrow, dirty streets, grimy, old, stucco walls, high round arched windows and doors with entrecols between the first and second stories; balconies and French signs ten to one of English, and with occasional odd bits of other tongues, "Vins et liqueurs;" "Vins tres vieux," "Kossuth Coffee House," "A la fee aux roses;" "Depot de graines pour les oiseux," "Chambres a louer;" "Gasthaus zur Rhein platz," "Vin, Biere en detail," "To LOYANTE Intelligence office only for the girls and women answering ho, On demande 50 homes pour le Chemin de Fer," etc. The other fare, whom I had not ventured to speak to, was set down at a salle pour le vente des somethings, and soon after the fiacre turned out upon the river bank, a broad place covered with bales of cotton, and casks of sugar, and weighing scales, and disclosing an astonishing number of steamboats lying all close together, with their heads in the same direction, run diagonally upon the bank, in a line, the other end of which was lost in the mist, which still hung upon the river. Now the signs became English, and the new brick buildings American. We turned into a broad street, in which shutters were being taken from great glass store-fronts, and clerks were exercising their ingenuity in the display of dry goods. In the middle of the broad street there was an open space, equal perhaps to one-third its width, of waste ground, looking as if the corporation had not been able to pave the whole of it at once, and had left this interval to be attended to when the treasury was better filled; whatever the purpose, it had a most shabby and poverty-stricken appearance. Crossing through a gap in this waste, we entered a narrow street of high buildings, French, Spanish, and English signs, the latter predominating and at the second block I was landed before the great, white, stuccoed, Grecian portico of the stupendous, tasteless, ill-contrived and inconvenient St. Charles Hotel. After a bath and breakfast I went out to look at the town. There is no city in America so interesting to the traveler, or in which one can stroll with more pleasure and with so long-coming weariness as New Orleans. I doubt if there is a city in the world where the resident population has been so divided in its origin, or where there is such a variety in the tastes, habits, manners, and moral codes of the citizens, Although this hinders civic enterprise and prevents the esprit d'corps, and public spirit, which the peculiar situation of the city greatly demands to be directed to the means of cleanliness, convenience, comfort, and health; it also gives a greater scope to the working of individual enterprise, taste, genius, and conscience, so that nowhere are the higher qualities of man, as displayed in generosity, hospitality, benevolence, and courage, better developed, or the lower qualities, likening him to a beast, less interfered with by law or the action of public opinion, There is no place where a stranger, no matter what his predilections, could be so sure of finding society to suit him as in New Orleans. You meet in succession Englishmen, staid, awkward, but reliable and true good fellows; Frenchmen, graceful, impulsive, whimsical; every variety of European grim, melancholy refugees; startling, wild, eccentric professors, teachers and artists; severe, animated, smoothly-dressed commercial men; uneasy questioning, impatient sea-faring men; energetic suspicious, and self-conscious New Englanders; proud and arrogant, showy and swaggering, but true, open-hearted, genial and hospitable Southerners; rough, rash, strong and manly Western men; Irish emigrants, hasty, uncertain, and ready for anything; German emigrants, moving on with steady, well-considered purpose; languid, proud, eccentric, wealthy, handsome and courtly, old French and Spanish creoles; little, graceful, chatty, happy, good-for-nothing, poor old French habitans; Indians, half-breeds, frontier, white demi-savages; negroes, mulattos, quadroons, of every possible condition and character; and all mingling and mixing and working together, without in the least loosing unwholesomely, but rather intensifying and developing all their individuality of character. Whether virtue or vice gains the most under this order of things I am not prepared to answer. <text about mistresses snipped> -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

AB I just typed in the search line, Jamaica early 19th century, and got quite a few hits. I hope one of them can help you. Barb tipperboo12@msn.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: TheShipsList-D-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com To: TheShipsList-D@rootsweb.com Subject: TheShipsList-D Digest V06 #268 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:06:02 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain TheShipsList-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 268 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [TSL] Elvira Owen, 1853 (was Q [af877@freenet.carleton.ca (Harry D] #2 The Chesterfield ["alison botterill" <alisonbotteril] Administrivia: TheShipsList Digest is distributed by RootsWeb. RootsWeb's home page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/ To UNSUBSCRIBE from TheShipsList Digest, click on the following link. mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Leave Subject Line BLANK and type ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of message. Do NOT include your name, address or any other text in the message. 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TheShipsList RootsWeb Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TheShipsList/ TheShipsList fully Searchable Archives http://www.oulton.com/cwa/newsships.nsf/by+date TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ To contact listowners click on link below: mailto:TheShipsList-admin@rootsweb.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:12:27 -0400 (EDT) From: af877@freenet.carleton.ca (Harry Dodsworth) To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <20060826151227.5EB9A24747@smeagol.ncf.ca> Subject: Re: [TSL] Elvira Owen, 1853 (was Question) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "Mary Draper" <foxcountry@frontiernet.net> posted: >> My great grandfather, Johan Schulz supposedly left Le Havre, France on September 12, 1853 and a friend and future relative Michael Sorg was also on board the ship. I think the ship name was Elvera Owen. Can anyone help me with information? >> The Elvira Owen [sp] -arrived- at New York on September 12. According to Germans to America (book), Michael Sorg was indeed on the ship. However Johan Schulz is not listed. There were three Johan Schulz in that volume of GTA. Two were with families and sailed from Hamburg. The third was aged 23, travelling alone and travelled on the Judah Touro from Havre, arriving New York on August 23. Arrival report, New York Times, September 13, 1853 Arrived New York, September 12 Ship Elvira Owen, of Bath, [captain] Owen, Havre, Aug. 12, mdse. and 329 pass. to [agent] W. Whittock Jr. The Elvira Owen was 900 tons, built Bath (Maine) 1852 and owned there. Arrival report, New York Times, Monday, August 22, 1853 Arrived New York, Saturday, August 20 Ship Judah, Toreso? (of New Orleans) [captain] Lewis 43 ds., Havre, mdse. and 214 pass. to master [as agent]. I believe Judah Touro is the correct spelling; Judah Touro was a famous Jewish entrepreneur with ties to New Orleans. The 1857 New York Marine Register lists the ship as the Judah Truro. The ship was 716 tons, built Portsmouth (New Hampshire) in 1844 and owned in New Orleans. By the way, Question is not a good choice for a subject line :-) -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca - -------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:56:09 +0100 From: "alison botterill" <alisonbotterill@hotmail.com> To: TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY106-F37917C70C10C0A68DED66AA3A0@phx.gbl> Subject: The Chesterfield Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I would be interested to find out about a ship called The Chesterfield (a packet boat?) which arrived in Kingston, Jamaica probably in October 1804 (or possibly 1802). My enquiry is in relation to a letter sent from Jamaica which refers to this particular ship and the "tidings of a poor friend's death". There is also mention of a deposition made by a Mr Willis. The names of Wolf (possibly a firm), Griffiths, Drew, Bruce and "poor Mr Walsham" are also mentioned in the letter. A second letter, dated 1806, to a Mr Devis, includes mention of the names Larkins, Creed(?), Temperson (?), Willis, and Griffiths (again). From what I have been able to decipher, dramatic events are described, and I would like to be able to find out more of what was happening in Jamaica during the very early part of the 19th century. With thanks for any help. AB

Can anyone tell me where to find names of ships and passenger lists relating to ships travelling from New York to London in this era. Thank you all. Denise

Where might I find a list of passenger ships sailing from Glasgow,Scotland to the Port of Boston in Massachusetts in the years 1886 and 1887? My grandfather William Stewart was born in Stirling,Scotland in early 1886 and, according to family history, came as an infant to the U.S. His younger brother was born in Salem,Massachusetts in October of 1887. Since the family settled in Salem,it is logical that they came to this country through the Port of Boston, about only 20 miles away. My great-grandfather had been a leather worker in Scotland and was perhaps attracted to the active leather industry in the Salem and Peabody,Massachusetts area. I have searched the records of the the Port of Salem, but unfortunately, record for ships arriving during these years are "missing". Thank you , Bill Stewart

John, Not sure that I saw any reply to this query from you a few days ago? There is a website, run by Fraser Darrah, devoted to Blue Star Line at: http://www.bluestarline.org/index.html Try the LOG BOOK there with your enquiry? Likewise, MerchantNavyOfficers has a similar facility under the heading FIND at: http://www.merchantnavyofficers.com/indexframe.html I have come across other similar search facilities, but don't have the links. Ron Mapplebeck (UK) **** JOHN HUXLEY wrote: > I was Senior Second Engineer on this ship from April to July on a > light ship run ex the UK to Tasmania to load a full cargo of fruit .It > was not trip with outt incident as the two 10 cylinder .Sulser were > giving a good deal of trouble I have a couple of photo,s of the > Engine Room with the Junior Second and the Senior Third. Have you any > ideas on how I may find their whereabouts. At present I am assisting > in the restoration of the Daniel Adamson , a 103 year old steam tug at > present in Liverpool docks.You may have seen the web site. > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:TheShipsList-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > Leave Subject Line empty * Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in body of message > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >

"Denise" <mudbusters@optusnet.com.au> posted: >> Can anyone tell me where to find names of ships and passenger lists relating to ships travelling from New York to London in this era. >> It is unlikely the information exists. New York didn't keep outbound passenger lists and London didn't keep inbound passenger lists at this time. If they were wealthy people, travelling first class, the New York Times often listed the names of outbound passengers. -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

I would be interested to find out about a ship called The Chesterfield (a packet boat?) which arrived in Kingston, Jamaica probably in October 1804 (or possibly 1802). My enquiry is in relation to a letter sent from Jamaica which refers to this particular ship and the "tidings of a poor friend's death". There is also mention of a deposition made by a Mr Willis. The names of Wolf (possibly a firm), Griffiths, Drew, Bruce and "poor Mr Walsham" are also mentioned in the letter. A second letter, dated 1806, to a Mr Devis, includes mention of the names Larkins, Creed(?), Temperson (?), Willis, and Griffiths (again). From what I have been able to decipher, dramatic events are described, and I would like to be able to find out more of what was happening in Jamaica during the very early part of the 19th century. With thanks for any help. AB

"Mary Draper" <foxcountry@frontiernet.net> posted: >> My great grandfather, Johan Schulz supposedly left Le Havre, France on September 12, 1853 and a friend and future relative Michael Sorg was also on board the ship. I think the ship name was Elvera Owen. Can anyone help me with information? >> The Elvira Owen [sp] -arrived- at New York on September 12. According to Germans to America (book), Michael Sorg was indeed on the ship. However Johan Schulz is not listed. There were three Johan Schulz in that volume of GTA. Two were with families and sailed from Hamburg. The third was aged 23, travelling alone and travelled on the Judah Touro from Havre, arriving New York on August 23. Arrival report, New York Times, September 13, 1853 Arrived New York, September 12 Ship Elvira Owen, of Bath, [captain] Owen, Havre, Aug. 12, mdse. and 329 pass. to [agent] W. Whittock Jr. The Elvira Owen was 900 tons, built Bath (Maine) 1852 and owned there. Arrival report, New York Times, Monday, August 22, 1853 Arrived New York, Saturday, August 20 Ship Judah, Toreso? (of New Orleans) [captain] Lewis 43 ds., Havre, mdse. and 214 pass. to master [as agent]. I believe Judah Touro is the correct spelling; Judah Touro was a famous Jewish entrepreneur with ties to New Orleans. The 1857 New York Marine Register lists the ship as the Judah Truro. The ship was 716 tons, built Portsmouth (New Hampshire) in 1844 and owned in New Orleans. By the way, Question is not a good choice for a subject line :-) -- Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------

I'd written out her history though Sue Regards Don www.shiphistory.co.uk THE FRANCONIA Cunard Line, 18150 tons gross, 182.96m long x 21.73m beam, (600.3ft x 71.3ft) 2 funnels, two masts, twin propellers, quadruple expansion engines giving a speed of 17 knots. There was accommodation for 300 1st class, 350 2nd class and 2200 3rd class passengers. Built by Swan Hunter & Wigham Richardson of Wallsend on Tyne, Newcastle, England with engines provided by Wallsend Slipway Co Ltd. 23 Jul 1910 launched 25 Feb 1911 maiden voyage Liverpool - Queenstown - New York, one return voyage 18 Apr 1911 first voyage Liverpool - Queenstown - Boston 15 Sep 1914 last voyage on this route 21 Oct 1914 resumed Liverpool - New York service 23 Jan 1915 last voyage on this route after 4 return voyages 1915 troopship 4 Oct 1916 torpedoed and sunk by German submarine UB 47, 195 miles E by S of Malta. 12 dead. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [TSL] The Franconia > Hi Jan > > At 04:25 PM 2006-08-25 -0400, Jan Griffiths wrote: >>I noticed an earlier posting asking about this ship. Does anyone know if >>it >>may have included passengers from London, England, who may have boarded in >>Liverpool? Did it dock at any ports prior to arriving in Boston - ie, >>Halifax or Quebec/Montreal? >> >>I'm looking for John Griffiths & Janet Rebecca Griffiths (nee Dott), who >>arrived in Montreal between 1912 and 1915, both born in London, England. >>I'm >>having great difficulty because I have no date and don't know either port >>of >>departure or port of entry. >> >>Jan. > > I just realised we don't have the description and voyage history of the > first Franconia (ahem . . Ted <grin>) however it was a short life. The > ship didn't sail from London, but it was a fairly quick train trip to > Liverpool. > > I checked my database and was surprised to see that she never sailed to a > Canadian port with passengers. She made 15 trips to New York carrying > Canada destined passengers between 1911-1915 . . six of those from the > Mediterranean during 1912-1914, the others from Liverpool. In 1911-1914 > she also made about 35 stops at Boston (and/or Portland ME) carrying > Canada Destined passengers, all from Liverpool. > > The New York arrivals I checked on Ellis Island, but there are just two in > 1911 an Albert and a Gomer. I then checked Boston on Ancestry and > although there were quite a few Griffith(s) none fit the John and Janet on > that ship. For Portland there was just a little four year old boy, > mistranscribed as 22 years old going to his father Frederick W. Griffiths > in Toronto. He was travelling with a Francis [sic] Ellen Hughes, 33 who > must either be his mother or his aunt as they both left a Mrs. Hughes, > mother to Frances and grandmother to Ralph. > > Name: Ralph Wm Victor Griffiths > Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1913 > Age: 22 years <<---------- wrong, 4 yrs old > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 > Gender: Male > Ethnic Background: English > Port of Departure: Liverpool, England > Ship Name: Franconia > Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine > Friend's Name: Frederick W Griffiths > Last Residence: England > Microfilm Roll Number: 24 > > Are you positive about the ship they sailed on? As you are probably > aware, Canadian passenger records for this period are unindexed, as are > the US-CAN border records !! It makes this a difficult period for > research when you have such a broad time frame to work with. > > Sue > -- > > > TheShipsList Website > http://www.theshipslist.com/ > > > ==== TheShipsList Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST - mailto:TheShipsList-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE from DIGEST - mailto:TheShipsList-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > Leave Subject Line empty * Put Only: UNSUBSCRIBE in body of message > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > >

Hello Peggy, At 08:51 PM 2006-08-25 -0300, Peggy Furness wrote: >Sylvie Tremblay at LAC in Ottawa, suggested that I e-mail you. Please tell Sylvie hello for me, next time you are talking. >I am searching for the arrival date in Canada of my Grandfather John >Ernest Furness. He, having learned the business at the Furness Withy >offices in West Hartlepool and in London, in preparation for being >assigned to Canada, and taking up the position of Manager in the >Halifax, (Nova Scotia) office in 1904. I can find no record of his >arrival to Halifax - presumeably he was sent on a Furness Withy vessel >out of Liverpool or London to Halifax or Montreal?, but maybe not? >I have a feeling that he did travel with Furness Withy and it was >probably the only time, since my grandmother once told me that he >preferred NOT to travel on Furness vessels!! Hmm. Furness ships usually carried fewer than 100 passengers and I imagine they didn't have too many "mod cons." <smile> There were only 13 Furness trips with passengers into Halifax only, in 1904. 11 were for either DAMARA or ULUNDA sailing from Liverpool and one each for ST. JOHN CITY and GULF OF ANCUD, sailing from London. If you have searched the Halifax reels T-497 and T-498, then those are all there are. If you didn't find him then a couple things occur to me . . 1. that he didn't travel on a Furness Line ship, or . . 2. that if he did travel on a Furness ship, as he wasn't technically an immigrant and was a "Company man," that he may not have been listed on the manifest. Option 1. leaves you having to check a lot more records, as Canadian passenger lists are not indexed for this period and there were 186 ships from England to Canada in 1904 . . 77 of those to Quebec, the balance to Halifax and St. John. Option 2. leaves you out of luck. >I do have some of the details of his departure and return to England >in December 1920, leaving Halifax on December 6th, and sailing aboard >the "Empress of France" from Quebec for Liverpool, along with my >grandmother Emma Louise and my father Harry Charles then 10 years old. >Would that have been Quebec City or Montreal? > >I am very much hoping that you can help me in shedding some light in >these matters. > >Sincerely >Peggy Furness The EMPRESS OF FRANCE, E. Cook, master, had sailed from Liverpool, England 1920-11-16 and arrived at Quebec, Que. 1920-11-24. She sailed again on November 28th. Her December trip arrived at St. John, N.B. on December 23rd. Maybe you have the wrong year, although her Liverpool arrival date may have been December 6th 1920 !! You can hire a researcher at Kew in London to check that out for you. British records are not indexed or microfilmed. The 1921 trip arrived at St. John on 1921-12-06 and sailed from there on December 13th The 1911 census is really hard to read, and by the looks of this, hard to transcribe too Name: Rom E Furness <<<---- of course John Gender: Male Marital Status: Widowed <<<----- I don't think so ;-} Age: 33 Birth Date: March 1878 BirthPlace: England Family Number: 136 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouses's Name: Emma L Tribal: English Province: Nova Scotia District: Halifax District Number: 45 Sub-District: Ward 1 Sub-District Number: 46 Place of Habitation: 42 Pleasant Census Year: 1911 Page: 15 Rom E Furness 33 Emma L Furness 25 Harry C Furness 7/12 Grace 30 <<<--- can't make out her last name . .a guest Ella Charland 21 <<<--- domestic I had looked at the "emigration" column, but for him and several others on the page it looks like NY, which of course might mean "no year," however, I decided to check New York and found these Furness,John Ernest Halifax, Canada 1908 30 1878 Furness,John Ernest Halifax, Canada 1911 33 1878 In 1908 they were living at 167 North Pleasant St. Halifax as on the Ellis Island website, John has sailed from Southampton June 10th on the MAJESTIC, arriving at New York June 18th 1908. (listed as a ship owner definitely travelling first class) . . it says "yes" that he had been to the US before, but doesn't say when. The 1911 record does say he'd been to the US before, in June 1910, now living at 42 Pleasant St, Halifax. This time he (they . . with bankers etc.) travelled on the Bowring ship FLORIZEL from Halifax on August 1st, arriving at New York August 3rd 1911. He is going to stay at the Waldorf Astoria. Regards, Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Sylvie Tremblay at LAC in Ottawa, suggested that I e-mail you. I am searching for the arrival date in Canada of my Grandfather John Ernest Furness. He, having learned the business at the Furness Withy offices in West Hartlepool and in London, in preparation for being assigned to Canada, and taking up the position of Manager in the Halifax, (Nova Scotia) office in 1904. I can find no record of his arrival to Halifax - presumeably he was sent on a Furness Withy vessel out of Liverpool or London to Halifax or Montreal?, but maybe not? I have a feeling that he did travel with Furness Withy and it was probably the only time, since my grandmother once told me that he preferred NOT to travel on Furness vessels!! I do have some of the details of his departure and return to England in December 1920, leaving Halifax on December 6th, and sailing aboard the "Empress of France" from Quebec for Liverpool, along with my grandmother Emma Louise and my father Harry Charles then 10 years old. Would that have been Quebec City or Montreal? I am very much hoping that you can help me in shedding some light in these matters. Sincerely Peggy Furness

Good Morning! My ancestors arrived in the United States on February 25, 1827 aboard the Bremen Brig Ulysses, with a Ship Master by the name of "H. Spilcker" (according to the sworn state of the ship list). Would you by any chance happen to have a picture of this ship, or even a drawing? I am looking to add this information to my family tree, but am not having any luck finding anything other than the ship passenger list. Thanks so much, Briana Wombacher California

Hi all, Frank in NZ, for whom I was chasing the ROSE M and its final voyage, sent me information from the "Australasian Shipping News" dated December 13, 1890 saying that the ROSE M left Sydney, NSW for Kaipara NZ. When it arrived in October 1890 it's Master was Master P. McGreeham, however when it left in December 1890 it's Master was Wright. So Master Wright may have still be the Master when it went down in January 1891. Does anyone have access to the "Australasian Shipping News" dated 9/10/11 January 1891 (depending on day of printing). The March 26, 1891 edition of the same paper states that the ROSE M was a casualty, and had left Kaipara on 9 January. I am hoping the sailing will be listed and therefore the master. I do have have access to a library that may have the films, so am hoping that someone may have a copy, or be going to a library that may have a copy. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks Sue in Australia

Hi, After further thought, maybe this message should have gone to the ships list, sorry if I upset anyone. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Given To: Mariners-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Information or possible look up please - Hi all, Frank in NZ, for whom I was chasing the ROSE M and its final voyage, sent me information from the "Australasian Shipping News" dated December 13, 1890 saying that the ROSE M left Sydney, NSW for Kaipara NZ.

Hi Jan At 04:25 PM 2006-08-25 -0400, Jan Griffiths wrote: >I noticed an earlier posting asking about this ship. Does anyone know if it >may have included passengers from London, England, who may have boarded in >Liverpool? Did it dock at any ports prior to arriving in Boston - ie, >Halifax or Quebec/Montreal? > >I'm looking for John Griffiths & Janet Rebecca Griffiths (nee Dott), who >arrived in Montreal between 1912 and 1915, both born in London, England. I'm >having great difficulty because I have no date and don't know either port of >departure or port of entry. > >Jan. I just realised we don't have the description and voyage history of the first Franconia (ahem . . Ted <grin>) however it was a short life. The ship didn't sail from London, but it was a fairly quick train trip to Liverpool. I checked my database and was surprised to see that she never sailed to a Canadian port with passengers. She made 15 trips to New York carrying Canada destined passengers between 1911-1915 . . six of those from the Mediterranean during 1912-1914, the others from Liverpool. In 1911-1914 she also made about 35 stops at Boston (and/or Portland ME) carrying Canada Destined passengers, all from Liverpool. The New York arrivals I checked on Ellis Island, but there are just two in 1911 an Albert and a Gomer. I then checked Boston on Ancestry and although there were quite a few Griffith(s) none fit the John and Janet on that ship. For Portland there was just a little four year old boy, mistranscribed as 22 years old going to his father Frederick W. Griffiths in Toronto. He was travelling with a Francis [sic] Ellen Hughes, 33 who must either be his mother or his aunt as they both left a Mrs. Hughes, mother to Frances and grandmother to Ralph. Name: Ralph Wm Victor Griffiths Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1913 Age: 22 years <<---------- wrong, 4 yrs old Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Gender: Male Ethnic Background: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Franconia Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine Friend's Name: Frederick W Griffiths Last Residence: England Microfilm Roll Number: 24 Are you positive about the ship they sailed on? As you are probably aware, Canadian passenger records for this period are unindexed, as are the US-CAN border records !! It makes this a difficult period for research when you have such a broad time frame to work with. Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

I noticed an earlier posting asking about this ship. Does anyone know if it may have included passengers from London, England, who may have boarded in Liverpool? Did it dock at any ports prior to arriving in Boston - ie, Halifax or Quebec/Montreal? I'm looking for John Griffiths & Janet Rebecca Griffiths (nee Dott), who arrived in Montreal between 1912 and 1915, both born in London, England. I'm having great difficulty because I have no date and don't know either port of departure or port of entry. Jan.

On February 16th 1912 my great grandparents together with my grandmother and her brother and Aunt and Uncle left Tilsbury on board the Osterley and travelled as far as Sydney. When they reached Sydney they transferred to another ship to complete their journey to Auckland New Zealand. What I am trying without success to find out is the name of the ship that took them from Sydney to Auckland. The names of the passengers I am looking for are as follows. Father:Sydney Yallop Mother:Alice Maude Yallop Daughter :Doris Amelia Yallop[my grandmother] Son: Sydney Allan Yallop Aunt:Emma Martin Uncle: Herbert Martin They arrived in Sydney on March 28th and boarded another ship and came straight to Auckland and I have tried every place I can think of including The Alexander Turnbull library to no avail. I am writing my mothers life story along with her family history for her 80th birthday in December and I would be grateful for any help that anyone can give me to find the name and something about the ship they changed to in Sydney for the rest of the journey. Thanks Carole --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.